Luke1995
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Maybe one day he'll rediscover the good form he showed in the 2017/2018 season.
He isn't gonna leave in January. I don't see it.To be fair, similar things were said about Ashley Young, and he left us to join Inter last January. The same goes for Darmian in the summer. Whilst we can't rule out anything, I have a feeling that Lingard might be hungrier for first-team football (and a chance to get back into England's lineup) than we think.
Regarding England, especially, with players like Winks and Alli barely getting any football. There's a chance that Lingard can get himself back into contention if he leaves in January.
Different cases overall you're right but I just wanted to tell that there are players who are happy to pick up wages. If Lingard had serious ambition, he would have left last summerI think they're different cases. Bale has won everything at club level and is in his 30's. Lingard has previously stated he's worked hard to fulfil his dream of playing for United and he's not giving up on it anytime soon. Being at United is living the dream for him, whereas Bale just wants a payday.
Lingard hired Raiola to get a move but not even that scumbag could get him something decent, so he's probably been advised to wait out his contract and get a move to a club that want him but aren't willing to splash the cash.
I completely agree, but maybe he tried and COVID made it difficult to get the move he wanted, there wasn't exactly a lot of transfers last summer. I don't think any club got the targets they wanted and Lingard would be pretty far down anyone's list. As you said, he still could have forced the issue last summer if he had any personal ambition though.He isn't gonna leave in January. I don't see it.
Different cases overall you're right but I just wanted to tell that there are players who are happy to pick up wages. If Lingard had serious ambition, he would have left last summer
I hope so too. He was impressive then.Maybe one day he'll rediscover the good form he showed in the 2017/2018 season.
Easy targets are easy for a reason. 19/20 season 1 goal and 0 assists in 29 PL games. 18/19 season 4 goals 2 assists in 29 PL games. 17/18 season 8 goals 5 assists in 37 PL games. 18/17 season 1 goal 2 assists in 32 PL games.It's not hard to understand, good age still, well capable of scoring & creating a goals, decent number of games for England, and would improve alot teams right now in the premiership, etc.
Lingard has always been an easy target for alot of United fans, but we have alot of other players on the books far more worthly of this imo.
Yeah, the chances are slim, for sure. I don't see many teams really wanting him. Maybe Sheffield United or Brentford, but that's all I can think of. I think he has a better chance afterwards, but again, if he isn't playing much, his value's only going to drop (unless a Conte-like manager/head coach comes in for him).He isn't gonna leave in January. I don't see it.
That's the way I see it too, I wouldn't be surprised to see him leave in January either, even if its on loan with obligation to buy in the summer.Not sure what all the fuss is about, the club have extended his contract to allow them more time to find a potential suitor, rather than let him leave on a free when his contract runs out.
It hasn't been done for football reasons. I mean, he's no more likely to play now than he was before the extension. It's just business.
Do we see it often that a player extends a contract just to be sold/loaned soon after ?That's the way I see it too, I wouldn't be surprised to see him leave in January either, even if its on loan with obligation to buy in the summer.
He hasn't extended his contract per say, the club has the right to trigger the extension themselves. So I guess we'll soon find outDo we see it often that a player extends a contract just to be sold/loaned soon after ?
Easy targets are easy for a reason. 19/20 season 1 goal and 0 assists in 29 PL games. 18/19 season 4 goals 2 assists in 29 PL games. 17/18 season 8 goals 5 assists in 37 PL games. 18/17 season 1 goal 2 assists in 32 PL games.
His antics off the field are beside the point. As an attacking player in a front 3 his numbers are atrocious. And all the arguments about running around a lot dont really matter when thats all he has to his game. You can make an argument that there are other players with similar numbers, but they are the likes of Mata. But Matas career is winding down and hes been played out of position since he got here, Lingard is played in position and he should be hitting his peak a year ago and producing his best output right now. But he cant even get a sniff of the first team right now. He cant get into the England team either. And now Im gonna put you on the spot and ask which other PL teams Lingard would improve? Who in these "alot of PL teams" would Lingard displace?
By far. Historians will review the year 2020 and will argue about the pandemic and the USAs disastrous election, among other things, but that will only be for 2nd place behind this atrocity.Worst news of the year
If he’s so good you wouldn’t dodging the question. If he’s so good we would all be seeing it.Who would a player who has held down a spot at United, was a starter for England not too long ago, and is still at good age, potentially improve if he can get into some sort of form again? You say it like I need to justify something, but it's not too difficult to imagine it's quite possible.
My main point is that he in no way as bad as some make out, and he has always seemed to be an easy target, now we have extended his contract, most likely for resale value, and the same old nonsense comes out, he's not that bad, in fact at times he's been quite good, and will find a home at decent club hopefully, will probaly find some form again, and United might get a decent fee, he may even come in handy before the end of the season for us at some point yet.
Fabulous responseBy far. Historians will review the year 2020 and will argue about the pandemic and the USAs disastrous election, among other things, but that will only be for 2nd place behind this atrocity.
That's such shite. Matic may not be a world beater but he is a solid, class and often integral part of our mid. No way comparable to Lingard or Jones.Called this months ago
if Matic can get 3 more years after about 10 good performances in the last 2 seasons and Jones can get a new deal then Jesse was a certainty to be renewed. Yet another curious decision. How are we going to sell him after a renewal when he’s already on too much to sell?
Joke's on both of you. It's pretty obvious Elvis was wumming.Fabulous response
In a thread full of histrionics and complete utter nonesense, this response to the spoilt brats is the best by far
I did really if you read between the lines, and l'm not going to make a list the clearly poor clubs currently in the premiership that would take a chance on Lingard just for you, so move on.If he’s so good you wouldn’t dodging the question. If he’s so good we would all be seeing it.
I mean, you could just answered the question put to you. Dodging only further puts your opinion in the highly questionable category. So do you wanna take another stab at it?
Agreed. He's got much more value than Rojo and Jones.Well I would argue that he is PL quality. Certainly not united quality but he would be a starter for most of the bottom half teams, you cant convince me that the likes of Burnley's players or say Hendrick for Newcastle as an example are better than Lingard. Most of those players will never get an England cap whereas Lingard has had a decent international career, scored winner in FA cup final and is only now entering his prime years - that's how the club are viewing this and rightly so.
Also look at the sums Liverpool receive for reserve players. I appreciate the situation is complicated by his wages but £10/15m for Lingard is not outrageous in my view.
The contracts for Jones and Rojo were dumb but not this one.
Why did he hire a new agent then if he was content to not move? Especially one like Mino? Y'all are letting your hate for him cloud your reasoning.I can yeah. I have seen it with a much better player in Bale even. The man was ready to go to China just to get paid the same.
If Lingard has ambition, he would have forced a move last summer, even for a lower league team
The response was great irrespective and could be aimed at a number of posters in this thread, really made me laughJoke's on both of you. It's pretty obvious Elvis was wumming.
He could have hired for that or the possibility to renegotiate his contract. Raiola isn't about players leaving clubs exclusively, he works on contract extensions too you knowWhy did he hire a new agent then if he was content to not move? Especially one like Mino? Y'all are letting your hate for him cloud your reasoning.
No, you didn’t. I asked what teams and player in those teams lingard displaces. You have no answer other than “this is beneath me”, which a weird stance to take. If you didn’t want to join the conversation it’s pretty weird to enter it. You’re two posts in now trying to avoid supporting your claim that he would improve a lot of PL teams. Just comes across as a weak position. If you’re happy with that, so be it.I did really if you read between the lines, and l'm not going to make a list the clearly poor clubs currently in the premiership that would take a chance on Lingard just for you, so move on.
Why would I list teams for you? It's obvious that a Lingard who can find some form again is good enough for alot of prem teams, he is not a Champioship player if that's what you're getting at.No, you didn’t. I asked what teams and player in those teams lingard displaces. You have no answer other than “this is beneath me”, which a weird stance to take. If you didn’t want to join the conversation it’s pretty weird to enter it. You’re two posts in now trying to avoid supporting your claim that he would improve a lot of PL teams. Just comes across as a weak position. If you’re happy with that, so be it.
Have you always been a scout or is that recent?Yeah, the chances are slim, for sure. I don't see many teams really wanting him. Maybe Sheffield United or Brentford, but that's all I can think of. I think he has a better chance afterwards, but again, if he isn't playing much, his value's only going to drop (unless a Conte-like manager/head coach comes in for him).
Aye because Greenwood and Cavani don’t exist.Lingard is one injury to Tony/Marcus/Bruno away from starting for us. That's the sad reality of our squad right now.
I got it, kind of thought my comment was dripping with sarcasm too, I will work on that. @M Bison is right though, from some of the responses you would think that the extension was the worst thing that happened in 2020.Joke's on both of you. It's pretty obvious Elvis was wumming.
I didn’t make any claims, mate. You did. Back it up or don’t, but this attitude isn’t doing you any favours.Why would I list teams for you? It's obvious that a Lingard who can find some form again is good enough for alot of prem teams, he is not a Champioship player if that's what you're getting at.
Maybe make a list of teams currently in the bottom half that wouldn't want him to justify your point? Which would obviously be them all, but that can't be the case.