That doesnt make sense. So if everyones off form then Rashford has to play off form, but then you say De Gea is on form, so why cant Rashford play on form, even if the others dont? The truth is he hasnt performed well for ages, regardless of whether others have played well or not. Its on himself and the coaches to improve his form.
Is Rashford better than the likes of Saint Maximin?
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that’s a bit harsh mate
Slightly verging off topic but similar theme but when we were linked with Werner a month ago I had the usual reaction of absolute BS, but then it got me thinking. Arguably his best position is the same as Rashfords, so then I started asking myself would I rather Werner than Rashford. And honestly I think I would.
I know he gets so much stick for a lack of goal scoring and looking like he couldn’t hit a barn but on the odd occasion I watched Chelsea last season to me his workrate, effort and runs were essential to what they were doing. So some might just look at goal return and say he’s a scrubber but his overal contribution to the team was good and honestly I’d much rather have that. Than what Rashford has been showing for the last 2-3 years.
Still believe he can become a much better player but his time is running out and there just doesn’t seem to be any signs of development whatsoever.
I know he gets so much stick for a lack of goal scoring and looking like he couldn’t hit a barn but on the odd occasion I watched Chelsea last season to me his workrate, effort and runs were essential to what they were doing. So some might just look at goal return and say he’s a scrubber but his overal contribution to the team was good and honestly I’d much rather have that. Than what Rashford has been showing for the last 2-3 years.
Still believe he can become a much better player but his time is running out and there just doesn’t seem to be any signs of development whatsoever.
Absolutely not. I used to think he'd become a serious talent and among the best. He'd struggle to start in most top 10 clubs
Would you rather have this version of Rashford for a season or a 22 year old Danny welbeck
This version of Rashford has already got a higher career total than Welbeck and there's a 7 year age gap. Welbeck was just shit, he was shit when he was with us and he was shit after he left.
You've missed the point. ASM was just an example of a player that is ok most weeks then turns it on every 5 games or so. I've not seen Rashford play that well in a long long time so does he not fall into the same bracket? ASM himself has had a few games against us where he has been a problem but in a much inferior team and it hasn't made enough difference. Same for players like Traore at Wolves.
Well said. I've felt the same about him for a long time, he seems to have let the fame and hype go to his head because when he first came through with exuberance, work rate and an all round better attitude, I felt much better about him as a player. I just think his attitude stinks and he's not anywhere near as good as he thinks. The club have also built him up to be a major figure for us before he ever proved himself or achieved anything.
Posted a few weeks ago, I just don't understand. He plays like someone that hates football. He has so much talent too. I would have thought a manager like Ole would be perfect for Marcus, not quite sure how Ralf will handle him.
The only tiny straw I'm holding onto is that he hasn't really been used as the LWF in a front 3 for quite a while - which is where he really looked the business. Because as easy as it is to forget, there was a time he was one of the most exciting talents in world football.
The only tiny straw I'm holding onto is that he hasn't really been used as the LWF in a front 3 for quite a while - which is where he really looked the business. Because as easy as it is to forget, there was a time he was one of the most exciting talents in world football.
He’s spot on.
Pretty accurate though.
Rashford isn't even better than Steve McManaman to be honest.
Rashford reminds me of Adnan. Where he tore it up for a bit but then fell back.
Both players suited a counter attack format but struggled to play as a team.
For me it's simple.n these players simply didnt get the development they deserved due to how our club has been since SAF.
Both players suited a counter attack format but struggled to play as a team.
For me it's simple.n these players simply didnt get the development they deserved due to how our club has been since SAF.
I know the back injury was back in 2020 but he played pretty much all of last season with multiple injuries including a pretty serious shoulder injury. He only returned from that injury 2 months ago to be fair. In that time the rest of the team have been in diabolical form, there's been change of manager and he's now being asked to play in a different position and formation.
So it's hardly surprising his form is poor right now.
Gesundheit.
Danke
He wouldn't score 20 anywhere, he'd do well to get 10 a season at a top club.
Yeah I can see that comparison
Good comparison btw.
Rashford wluld have a lot more joy at Newcastle where he will often get space to attack. We are getting crowded out too easily for months now and it isn't helping any of our players look good
He needs to play in a midtable team where his 3/10 success rate at basic football skills would be acceptable
Been saying for years that he's way over-rated, mostly because he's an academy graduate. If he played for any other club our fans wouldn't have any interest in Utd buying him and would rightly say he's bang average.
He's just Walcott with better shooting (even right now that has gone). When his speed decline even more with age and injuries he would be useless and done as a top flight footballer.
He's been average for quite a while now. At first it was because he was carrying an injury. He's had the surgery, he's recovered for quite some time now but he's still playing badly.
I think he's a decent player but beyond his pace he is quite limited. Can't dribble, can't cross, shooting is a bit hit and miss and actually since his surgery is isn't that quick anymore. I also think his off field work, whilst highly commendable, is interfering with his football despite his camp refuting it.
The op asked whether rashford is better than Saint maxinin. Clearly on current form the answer is no. Just ask Newcastle fans whether they would swap the 2 players. I'd go as far as saying that on current form, he's not any better than Bowen from West ham.
I think he's a decent player but beyond his pace he is quite limited. Can't dribble, can't cross, shooting is a bit hit and miss and actually since his surgery is isn't that quick anymore. I also think his off field work, whilst highly commendable, is interfering with his football despite his camp refuting it.
The op asked whether rashford is better than Saint maxinin. Clearly on current form the answer is no. Just ask Newcastle fans whether they would swap the 2 players. I'd go as far as saying that on current form, he's not any better than Bowen from West ham.
Our fans are pathetic. Rashford played most of last season carrying injuries and he started this season out for 2 months with major surgery. He's not been able to find form since his return and you lot are comparing him to a donkey who's scored 26 goals in his entire career - for some perspective, Rashford scored 21 in his "shit" last season.
Holy crap - is that all Saint Maximin has scored
And our fans make a thread about this
This is a trait in Manchester United fans for decades. Anyone who has half a decent game against us is considered a demi-god.Holy crap - is that all Saint Maximin has scored
And our fans make a thread about this
Is Ronaldo better than the likes of Saint-Maximin?
And at the same time anyone that plays for us wouldn't get in to a top 10 team or some crap in their head. Then a player like Lingard goes and destroys teams with West Ham just to show that they were wrong, looking better when playing for such clubs than they did with us.
Holy crap - is that all Saint Maximin has scored
And our fans make a thread about this
Firstly, Saint Maximin was an example. Read the title..."the likes of...". This was a thread more about consistency and overall impact over a season.
Secondly, let's not pretend Rashford is a goalscoring god, which as an inside forward type player that doesn't assist much is his main output still. This season 3 in 13. Last season 21 in 57...ok stats but not exactly groundbreaking.
Club career
Saint-Maximin
223 apps
59 goals+assists
Rashford
286 apps
150 goals+assists
According to transfermarkt. Few can match Saint-Maximin's dribbling, but he doesn't even come close to Rashford overall. Rashford is just out of form.
Saint-Maximin
223 apps
59 goals+assists
Rashford
286 apps
150 goals+assists
According to transfermarkt. Few can match Saint-Maximin's dribbling, but he doesn't even come close to Rashford overall. Rashford is just out of form.
So why compare him to the likes of dog poo? It's clearly a thread to slag him off. In the last 2 seasons he's averaged around a goal every 2 games, which is pretty standard for a striker.
Doesn't rashford have like 25-30 assists in the last two seasons?
How many assists do you think he should be producing every season?
That's rubbish. When you have 60 career goals+assists in 200+ appearances with your teams fighting relegation and finishing midtable most seasons, you haven't been impacting shit as a forward. The likes of him haven't been impacting shit either. Don't compare that to one of the best players of one of the best teams in the English Premier League.
I mean 2 months after a return for a shoulder injury is more than enough, and I was more referencing his back. It was speculated at the time that it could be an injury that hampers him chronically, and this poor form isn't just lacking finishing or a final ball. It's a complete lack of the explosiveness that used to make him so dangerous, which then puts stress on the weaker more technical parts of his game
I've no idea if the back is still bothering him but he was very good at times towards the end of the 19/20 season and last season post his back injury so if I had to bet his current poor form isn't due to his back.
I think it's a combination of the things I mentioned. Still looking for full match fitness/sharpness, playing in an underperforming team and adjusting to new formation/positions.
Let's be honest no one in the team is really pulling up trees at the minute so I'd give Rashford the benefit of the doubt until the end of January.
Who is that ? Seriously.
He is when he's playing anywhere near his best.
Unfortunately his good games are non-existent for about 2 years now.
Unfortunately his good games are non-existent for about 2 years now.
When all is said and done, it's up to Rashford how he responds to being dropped
On his day, no, he's much better. I'm getting tired of watching Rashford dribble into 4 players and then give it away. He will never understand when to pass and when to keep dribbling. So frustrating because he can be soooooo good. He will never get it, unfortunately. Good lad though.