YesIs Roy Keane actually a good pundit
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
YesCalling it early. He'll be a meme in no time. His angry man "analysis" will start to wear on viewers because he likes to rage about everything
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To be honest, and I say this with no disrespect to this part of society, it looked more like a homeless man analysis. I thought he'd just woken up.
I'd say most people seem to really like him as a pundit, whichever club they support (apart from Liverpool).
It's all pantomime on Sky Sports. Premier League football is a product and Keane is there playing his role to keep the demographic happy.
I watched his reaction and thought it over the top, even Evra sitting opposite thought it was a joke.
Maguire and De Gea were awful for the goal but Keane was talking about hypothetically about punching De Gea. No wonder he's become a relic in football management. Then he claims that De Gea should be catching that header from Don. It's spoken like a man who's never played as a goalkeeper.
This angry say-it-how-is demeanour should not be confused with genuine knowledge, insight and wisdom.
Maguire and De Gea were awful for the goal but Keane was talking about hypothetically about punching De Gea. No wonder he's become a relic in football management. Then he claims that De Gea should be catching that header from Don. It's spoken like a man who's never played as a goalkeeper.
This angry say-it-how-is demeanour should not be confused with genuine knowledge, insight and wisdom.
I love Keano but his style of punditry, i.e the "just don't be shit" style, wears a little thin when you're used to Gary Neville carefully explaining the nuances of certain pieces of play. He's great when he has a Neville or Carragher to bounce off, or when he comes into the studio once every couple of months to shake things up, just for the comedy value. But him sitting there on his own every monday night just wouldn't work I don't think.
Not sure what people are complaining about. Hardly anything wrong with what he said or how he said it this time
My favourite bit:
"Roy, are you falling in love with Fernandes?"
Keane: "I won't go that far"
My favourite bit:
"Roy, are you falling in love with Fernandes?"
Keane: "I won't go that far"
That's fair enough generally speaking, but honestly that passage of play for the goal was a disgrace and I'm not disquieted in the slightest that Keane was in the studio to let rip on the players involved. No tactical breakdown was necessary to communicate to the viewers just what a fecking dog's breakfast that was. As I've said before if you find Keane's persona grating and his style of punditry isn't your cup of tea that's fair enough but I was happy to see a bollocking over more considered analysis in this instance.
Oh no don't get me wrong, I love it. Laughed my head off at him saying De Gea should get a taxi back to Manchester. I think he's great.
Or for the Spurs goal, the "ball moved, the ball moved, is what they are going to say... well yeah, if you kick the ball of course it's going to move"Not sure what people are complaining about. Hardly anything wrong with what he said or how he said it this time
My favourite bit:
"Roy, are you falling in love with Fernandes?"
Keane: "I won't go that far"
With Keane there really are no excuses, no one gets let off the hook. I love it!
Quite a few of those types of CBs exist potentially tbf.
I find him highly entertaining and so do the other pundits I think, he had Evra in stitches and he was the same when the World Cup was on.
He's a bully, no more and no less.
From various reports he's all talk, I mean Walters squared up to him and he was crying about calling the police then.
Such a hard man hey.
From various reports he's all talk, I mean Walters squared up to him and he was crying about calling the police then.
Such a hard man hey.
That didn't really happen though did it?
From all reports it did indeed.
I don't see Keane denying this?
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He is an entertainer playing a character. Souness played much the same role in his earlier pundit days but mellowing through age and too much of him dulled the impact. Keane understands his act works best when his appearances are irregular, his rants and intensity would wear out the impact on a weekly basis.
Or he is just an ass who would be a nightmare to deal with on a daily basis.
Or he is just an ass who would be a nightmare to deal with on a daily basis.
Probably not its up there with the bs story Jason McAteer tells about lining up beside Keane at a world cup match
He's full of hot takes imo.
He is entertaining and we all click on links when he talks. It is funny.
But there is a side to it where standards have dropped at United. If you had done what Maguire and de Gea did for the Spurs goal in Keane’s day, there would have been an inquest at halftime and the side would have come out ready to rectify it in the second half.
He is a relic of the past, sure, but he is also a former standard bearer who probably finds it tough seeing how standards have dropped so much at a club he loves.
But there is a side to it where standards have dropped at United. If you had done what Maguire and de Gea did for the Spurs goal in Keane’s day, there would have been an inquest at halftime and the side would have come out ready to rectify it in the second half.
He is a relic of the past, sure, but he is also a former standard bearer who probably finds it tough seeing how standards have dropped so much at a club he loves.
The man is a clown.
Just saw the outburst. Loved it. He has the credentials to back up what he's saying.
Depends what you define as a good pundit to be honest...
He's certainly entertaining and bound to rake in viewers for his audacious comments, but actual tactical analysis of the game isn't as good as others.
I think he makes for great viewing.
He's certainly entertaining and bound to rake in viewers for his audacious comments, but actual tactical analysis of the game isn't as good as others.
I think he makes for great viewing.
One things for sure players wouldn't get away with making mistakes like that if Keane was on the pitch .
Yeah, he would also struggle to deal with the modern footballers mentality.
A wee bit fragile compared to his day. He said in an interview he didn’t bother to associate with a lot of players like Rooney who liked to have a laugh, imagine Keano being surrounded by kids dabbing and prancing around the dressing room with their phones out and headphones on, his head would explode
He's a breath of fresh air to what we've had to put up with for years. Shearer, Wright, Redknap, Ferdinand etc are just so dull. Back in the 70s and 80s we had dull people like John Motson and Bob Wilson, but Brian Clough livened things up a bit.
I see Keane similar to Clough. He says what he thinks, whether it's wrong or not.
I see Keane similar to Clough. He says what he thinks, whether it's wrong or not.
Someone's opinion a good pundit does not make.
He is no better than an average fan posting on a forum,
The fact that he has played the game at the highest level should put him in a higher bracket but alas, he falls victim to his own personality and ends up being over opinionated for the sake of it.
Just wish he'd take a taxi back to Manchester personally.
Love Keane, even when I don't agree with his opinions. The man is entitled to say whatever the feck he wants and I would expect at least the United fanbase to celebrate him!
Some of you lot are so uptight, it's embarrassing. Keane doesn't have to be some over-the-top analyst, he is there to be himself and judge what he sees by his own standards. It's also very entertaining so lighten the feck up.
Some of you lot are so uptight, it's embarrassing. Keane doesn't have to be some over-the-top analyst, he is there to be himself and judge what he sees by his own standards. It's also very entertaining so lighten the feck up.
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How is he a "breath of fresh air"?
When he is pushed on his opinions and to explain himself with some tactical insight he can't?!
He's a dinosaur from a bygone era and advocating for punch ups in dressing rooms doesn't work these days.
Because he’s actually entertaining which when it comes down to it, is what most of us want
Don't find bully's entertaining at all.
He's all mouth and when Walters squared up to him he was talking of calling the police, such a hard man.
Going early with that claim... He's only been a pundit for 8 years.
This makes no sense. Why would anyone criticize him for not hitting someone ?
That's exactly it. Super Sunday gets some many views and big % will be family members not really into football or not bothered, he is great value.
Sometimes people don't want to hear "Well the no.4 has stepped to he 's left, which allowed a metre of space to his right and this player marked in red hit a 35 yards, curving pass with just enough back spin to keep it in play"
They want Roy to say "I'd fecking kill that No.4 if he did that playing for me, stepping to his left...my god. I've seen better down the park on a Sunday"
To be honest, I think sky have the right balance - Neville, Carragher give the higher level analysis for when it's needed.
Clearly missed the point.
Roy was giving it loads about it being acceptable to punch Maguire & De Gea in his half time rant Friday last, but when Walters squared up to him in his office he was talking about calling the police and said it wasn't acceptable.
The point I'm making is, like your stereotypical bully he's all mouth and when you face up to him he'll back down.
That clearly wasn't the case throughout his football career though was it ? Quite clearly, managers can't behave as players.