Is Salah Finished? | Leaving at the end of the season... so yes.

He will still get decent numbers, but as an individual driving force I think that part has escaped him.

There’s no shame in it. He’s been stupidly consistent for the best part of 7/8 years.
 
Hopefully. Been waiting 5 years for it to happen.

Hilarious that it happens after him signing a mega contract. That stuff used to happen to us only.
 
I think so. Even if not he’s clearly lost a yard or two of pace and not can’t get past people or get his shots off quickly enough. He’s never been the most quick-footed player so he cant fallback on that.
 
Berbaclass said:
I think it's becoming really obvious that he has fallen off cliff and he has been really going under the radar.

Said a lot when Slot hooked him just after the Maguire goal.
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He can’t be a right winger in the slot system. He’d still be deadly as a false 9, but that won’t Happen
 
I think it’s also likely that the UK government has something to do with his poor play this year, given his support for Palestine
 
FriedClams said:
He can’t be a right winger in the slot system. He’d still be deadly as a false 9, but that won’t Happen
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Would he though? Think he's be quite easy to defend against in the middle of the pitch with how one footed he is and his diminishing pace.
 
A few seasons ago, he would have gobbled up that chance that he put wide.
 
Berbaclass said:
Would he though? Think he's be quite easy to defend against in the middle of the pitch with how one footed he is and his diminishing pace.
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We saw with his through ball for gakpo what he can do
 
I don’t think he’s completely finished by any means but his form has taken a big dive at the moment. People are very quick to write off older players though in general so don’t be surprised if he hits a mega run again and makes people look silly, obviously I hope he goes all Sanchez and stinks up the place. One thing is for certain, Liverpool get nowhere near the league without him in top form.
 
He's not finished but I knew this guy would drop off massively, studies need to be had when big players sign big contracts and how they play before it and after it.

Liverpool of old would know a players age and best time to get rid and reinvest, Salah getting a new contract seemed to be fan pressure and they folded. It's about time they start making the wrong decisions
 
I don't think so somehow, the guys looks fit as feck, and maybe lacking a bit in confidence right now. The attack needs some time to gel

but lets hope so anyway
 
Not finished but at 33, there's obviously going to be a reduction in productivity. Only 3 goals this year so far, so he's not getting anywhere near last year's goal total.
 
It's a common theme amongst players, they have one last great season before declining. He's still a good player obviously, but I doubt he'll ever reach the heights of last season again, at least not in the Premier League. They would have been wise to move him on.
 
redNATION said:
When have pool ever paid more than 100m for a player? They did it twice in one summer. Bayern would find it hard to turn down 130m, or something ridiculous like that
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I think you're severely underestimating Bayern's finances and structure. They were willing to spend big for Wirtz so there's no chance they would sell one of their star players in Olise for £130m unless they actually want to.

I suspect if it was over £150m and closer to £200m fair enough but then any club in the world would entertain that. Then you've got to take into account Liverpool would have to break their wage structure to tempt him to move over; he's very likely not on peanuts at Bayern.
 
I wouldn't write him off yet. He's had bad patches before (mostly towards the end of the season) and then bounced back.

He won't hit the peaks he's hit in the past where he was the best player in the league, but I think he can at least get back to being a very good attacking player.
 
Not sure he's finished but it looked like he wasn't as quick that's for sure., especially that initial burst.
 
He's over-30, so he really should be sipping on his Horlicks and getting an episode of Peak Practice in before going to bed at 7:30.
 
BarryWinks said:
Even if not he’s clearly lost a yard or two of pace and not can’t get past people or get his shots off quickly enough.
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Not his pace imo he's just in terrible form and needs to be dropped. He can't land shots on target and his first touch is all over the place e.g. miscontrolled a long pass today which almost went out, uncharacteristic of Salah but it's happened more than a few times this season.
 
I think he's just out of form rather than finished. Some seriously uncharacteristic bits of technique from him. I don't think he looks any slower though, certainly has that burst of speed in the first few yards.
 
I'm sure he can still score some goals here and there, but it's clear that his best years are behind him and he can't serve as a team's focal point. They should use him as a super sub. Starting him in important games is insane and you really have to question Slot's decisionmaking.
 
lexisonfire said:
Not his pace imo he's just in terrible form and needs to be dropped. He can't land shots on target and his first touch is all over the place e.g. miscontrolled a long pass today which almost went out, uncharacteristic of Salah but it's happened more than a few times this season.
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Yep, but he did lay that pass very good pass on for Gakpos first post hit. He's not alone though, Wirtz, Isak, etc all look a bit meh.
 
Testament to how shite he was today was that Dalot was fecking atrocious all game and still kept him quiet while they were on the same flank.
 
ti vu said:
His stats may look impressive, but he didn’t play that well in this supposed best seasons in the PL history. He relied on stat padding 9 penalty goals (his personal record). Else he’s right in the mix with Cunha scoring 19 goals without a penalty.


You can’t be real. You’re comparing a young player with a lit of development to do (even when he had already been among world best player level), to a player in his thirties. Ronaldo scored in his first goal of the season in the fifth game (against Sporting Lisbon in CL), and scored his first PL goal of the season in the fifth PL game. Why did you count the game where he got suspended?

https://www.transfermarkt.us/cristiano-ronaldo/leistungsdaten/spieler/8198/plus/1?saison=2007

And scoring is not everything. Ronaldo was the spark of the team during his teen and twenties. Salah has been carried by the team, so he can score goals. Liverpool now bought quite a proven PL goal scorer and a very good prospect in Ekitike. They may be able to do without Salah because outside of goals, Salah hasn’t been that good stretching back to last season and beyond.
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You're wrong. He scored his first goal in the 8th EPL fixture. He got a red card at Portsmouth for headbutting a player as well. We started the season by drawing at home against Reading, losing to City and drawing away at Portsmouth. CR7 had a poor start to the season but then he exploded.

And it's not even about Salah or Ronaldo but how reactionary people are on internet. You know how many times was Ronaldo labeled as "finished" but he always silenced his critics. I'm not saying Salah is going to explode or anything, but it's ridiculous how people write someone off after a couple of games.

Amorim was sacked two weeks ago, now he's a genius. Slot was a genius two weeks ago, now he's a "bald fraud". It's still too early in the season to write anyone off.
 
ti vu said:
His stats may look impressive, but he didn’t play that well in this supposed best seasons in the PL history. He relied on stat padding 9 penalty goals (his personal record). Else he’s right in the mix with Cunha scoring 19 goals without a penalty.
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He also had 18 assists.
 
Struggling a bit with the fact the team is not built around him like it was. Liverpool play a lot more through the left recently and Gakpo in particular. I think its messed with his head/confidence a bit. He's a cog in a machine now instead of being the machine itself. How much of that is Slot, how much is Mo himself and how much is the loss of Trent I have no idea, probably a combination of all 3.
 
KingEric04 said:
You're wrong. He scored his first goal in the 8th EPL fixture. He got a red card at Portsmouth for headbutting a player as well. We started the season by drawing at home against Reading, losing to City and drawing away at Portsmouth. CR7 had a poor start to the season but then he exploded.

And it's not even about Salah or Ronaldo but how reactionary people are on internet. You know how many times was Ronaldo labeled as "finished" but he always silenced his critics. I'm not saying Salah is going to explode or anything, but it's ridiculous how people write someone off after a couple of games.

Amorim was sacked two weeks ago, now he's a genius. Slot was a genius two weeks ago, now he's a "bald fraud". It's still too early in the season to write anyone off.
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How was I wrong? Read your initial post for yourself
KingEric04 said:
People are so reactionary these days. I'm not even trying to defend Salah but to call him finished after 8 games is insane. For example, CR7 didn't even score until his 9th game in 07/08 and Utd had 1 point in their first three games.

Imagine the reaction if that happened today. Maybe he's going to be a complete disaster this season, but it's still too early to tell.
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You said he only started scoring in his 9th game of the season, which meant you had counted the three PL games he was suspended. In reality, he scored against Sporting Lisbon which was his fifth game of the season.

You brought this silly comparison to young Ronaldo, so you can complain about other people.

You go find those who call Slot and Amorim a genius and speak to them about being reactionary. That has nothing to judgement Salah. Even going back to last season, Salah was IMO was not all that despite the stats.

We can agree that it’s still early in the season. However, a few result wouldn’t change opinion about Amorim, Slot and Salah. Slot was lucky when he got a job when teams in the league stripping over themselves and left Liverpool an unchallenged path to the title. Slot had Liverpool on 4 defeat streak because he can’t drop Salah playing this poor, hindering the whole team. The result is finally catching up to their performance. They have been fortunately to win games this season narrowly while performing poorly. Amorim didn’t have any tactical masterclass. Liverpool had good chances to score and equalize. If anything, Liverpool overall played better in this game than their previous defeats. Continuing this form, Slot may not survive. They don’t spend that much money to invest in the future just to see the wheel coming off. Winning at Anfield is great, but Amorim doesn’t change any opinions now. We’re still vulnerable and beatable. The margin is too thin. The result can easily flipped the other way. This level of performance hasn’t shown sign of sustainability.
 
padr81 said:
Struggling a bit with the fact the team is not built around him like it was. Liverpool play a lot more through the left recently and Gakpo in particular. I think its messed with his head/confidence a bit. He's a cog in a machine now instead of being the machine itself. How much of that is Slot, how much is Mo himself and how much is the loss of Trent I have no idea, probably a combination of all 3.
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Zing! The team dynamic has changed a lot and he is struggling with that. A lot of the automation he's made a career out of there have suddenly been removed, so he has to find his feet just like everyone else and that's not easy at his age and with having to work in a different way to what he's built a legacy on.

He's far from done, but fitting into a more team orientated set up might be a real problem for him.
 
Not yet, think he's lost his form and that's coinciding with Liverpool not gelling with their new players. Not mad about it though.
 
He’s not finished, but maintaining the level he has and essentially carrying the liverpool attack the last 3 or 4 years has seemingly caught up with him. I do hate threads like these though, as salah is more than capable of bouncing back, he’s 33 not 43.
 
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It's not just Salah struggling. Wirtz and Isak are a shadow of their former selves. Making so many high profile changes in one window has had a negative impact on their team dynamics. They've won 4 of their 5 matches with a 1 goal lead, and in 4 of their 5 wins, scored the winner after 80mins. Kind of reminds me of the start we made in our last season under Ole.
 
Not finished but he isn't the main man anymore.

I think he's caught in a transition team and he's 33 so his legs are nearly gone IMO.

I don't feel he will be in the prem next season.

He could do it a season or two in Italy imo.
 
redNATION said:
When have pool ever paid more than 100m for a player? They did it twice in one summer. Bayern would find it hard to turn down 130m, or something ridiculous like that
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We really wouldn’t. It would be extremely easy for us.
 
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