I think the above is actually the lesser known second verse of "y*u'll never w*lk al*ne"
Is Salah Finished? | Leaving at the end of the season... so yes.
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Really? It was widely acknowledged last season that Slot's more refined, patient approach benefitted Liverpool's older players, especially Van Dijk and Salah, and allowed them turn in championship winning seasons.
Now it's a problem, though.
They liked the post as a farewell post, not an anti Slot post. That's what I think.
The last person to be asking for heavy metal football should be Salah. Klopp wouldn't tolerate his lack of running and pressing.
And this was what Carragher was saying the other day. Liverpool risk ending up like United by insisting the coach plays the same way a great manager once played.
Insisting on heavy metal football when you don't have the players, and the players who did are over the hill anyway is suicide.
Ask Liverpool fans, the system wasn’t changed to a more refined approach last season. Salahs role was tweaked to allow him no defensive responsibilities
I see your point, that Salah’s fall in output needn’t have been as big if he was utilized in the same role (with the same tasks and freedoms) as last year. Sounds plausible, absolutely.
You point out that the philosophy of the coach, and the integration of two (three, if we count Isak) big investments for the future, were at odds with Salahs role from last year, and even if the total (Slot, Salah, Wirtz, Ekitike, Isak pluss the rest) have failed, my question to you would maybe be: How good would Salah have had to be this year for it to make it worthwhile sacrificing the philosophy of the coach and the three biggest forward investments of the club for years to accommodate a tailormade role for a 33 old forward?
Take a player like Christiano Ronaldo, who was top scorer and player of the year at United when he returned, but whose accomodation into the team was probably the main factor in our drop from title outsider to mid table candidate. But a better example is Ronaldo at Juve, closer to the height of his powers, were it still seems to me that Juve would have been better off investing in a future rather than building a team around a 33 year old. The team that had won six straight leagues, four straight doubles, still won two more leagues with him as top scorer, but forfeited the league in his third season and has not won a league since (six years).
My suspicion is that even if Slot is the wrong choice (he did look the right choice one yeqr bqck, and even if Wirtz, Isak and Ekitike are not the right successors (which they well may be), the idea for Liverpool was the right one: To actively move on from Klopp and Salah in a deliberate manner, rather than trying to csqueeze the last bit of success from it till it fell apart by itself. And if they do that, it implies that Salah must start doing what’s useful for the team more than the team doing what will make the most out of Mo Salah. Many great players have great ego’s and struggle with that shift. For us, I’d say both Ronaldo and Rooney struggled with it, but Ronaldo handled it badly and imploded in a way detrimental to the team, whereas Rooney handled it well and found ways to be useful to the team even if it made himself look a worse player.
He already had next to none. His role is the free role in Klopp's original midfield build, the free role in the next build and the free role in Slot's. I get why, but agree he should be the last person acting like he would be good as doing to running guys on the opposite flank had to do. In the words of some Liverpool fans I met once in a bar in Malaga, Klopp used Mane like a bar of soap but Salah like brylcreem. I'm still not sure entirely what it means or was meant to mean, but I have chosen to declare it prose of the highest scouse order.
Jones - squad player title challenge
Dominik Szoboszlai - title challenger quality Hugo Ekitike - title challenger quality
Andy Robertson - finished
Wataru Endo - not good enough
Milos Kerkez - not good enough
Giovanni Leoni - prospect coming back off injury
Jeremie Frimpong - not good enough
Calvin Ramsay - not good enough
Harvey Elliott - shipped out not good enough
What was wrong with what I said. When they won the league them players marked so above wouldn’t have had a big part. Now the superstars are on the wane, or have left the club, they aren’t going to build a title challenge on the back of them
Big players with ego’s bowing out making an arse of themselves is becoming fairly common. He’s definitely shown he’s all about himself.
His antics this season probably will affect the way he is remembered. Should have left the football before it left him, and he’d be a lock in for an all time PL XI
They mostly factually played a part in a title winning squad so you are factually incorrect. Someone like Robertson is finished, fair enough but Kerkez is fine in a title squad, Frimpong literally won a league title in Germany so he is capable of being near a title winning squad, Leoni is pointless mentioning because he hasn't played and why even mention Calvin Ramsay when he has not played a single minute of PL football?
When you are bringing in players who are not even part of the first team squad like Ramsay and Elliott then your point is not strong enough.
The only ones you can really say it about, with any meaning to their actual team, would be Robertson and Endo, the rest are definitely fine squad players in a title winning side or not even first team players so why would they be mentioned? I wouldn't say Kerkez and Frimpong are as bad as Buttner, for example, so how are they not good enough to be anywhere near a title winning squad.
I said they shouldn’t be anywhere near a title challenging squad. This implies the future.
Difference between the likes of Buttner and them was he is a backup. Frimpong, Kerkez etc are huge money signings and supposed to be first team players (and leaders). They aren’t good enough. The top class players at Liverpool are gone or fading.
That would be amazing.
Ok, so he wants "heavy metal" football from everyone else on the team, so long as he gets to play elevator music. That's convenient for him.
Why does that rile you?
I don't sneaky little shits.
And he's the sneakiest little shit of all!
Agreed. I hope you keep paying him massive wages. He's absolutely finished.
Nah. I'm counting on no Salah and Slot in for a happy summer. Dont feck this up fsg
While Slot has generally been shit, their club is crazy if they bow to the demands of a 34yo striker who just had an awful season and is clearly done.
Just needs to be excused from defensive duties apparently.
This would actually make sense if he’d been putting his chances away but he’s not been himself in front of goal either. Liverpool got lucky basically being able to ditch that massive contract, those wanting him to stay must be mental
He has largely been excused from goalscoring duties as well, it seems. Maybe he makes great coffee.
Imagine being lucky enough to ditch Slot, only to keep the misfiring Salah on £400k per week.