As the title really (inspired by Sjor's comments in the general discussion thread). Is it a permanent change like the end the front 5 which was never seen after the 70s or is it just one of the changes that happen in football that will be superseded by others? e.g. 4231 taking over from 442.
Is the high-line, high-press here to stay?
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football goes in circles and there will always be some changes but the way football is now, i just cant see a elite team with the resources they have that would want anything other then dominate majority of games and the way you dominate is through possessions and putting pressure on the opposition, both achieved through high press and high line.
There is a reason why Liverpool and City dominate the league as much as they do compared to other great sides of the past and its not because the league is weaker now, its because they put themself into position where they can exploit the quality gap the most. Maybe there is a case of being more pragmatic in bigger games but in majority of matches i just cant see anything else. Time will tell...
There is a reason why Liverpool and City dominate the league as much as they do compared to other great sides of the past and its not because the league is weaker now, its because they put themself into position where they can exploit the quality gap the most. Maybe there is a case of being more pragmatic in bigger games but in majority of matches i just cant see anything else. Time will tell...
Lobanovsky opinion on organised pressing to control the space of the pitch to your liking and force opposition into making more mistakes than you do over the 90 being the big tactical paradigm shift in football was basically vindicated over the last 10-15 years as globalisation saw these ideas proliferate so widely.
Specific setups like high-line, high-press will continue to be iterated on and go in trends depending on what suits the talents of the biggest, most successful clubs.
Specific setups like high-line, high-press will continue to be iterated on and go in trends depending on what suits the talents of the biggest, most successful clubs.
There will be counter trends that appear in the same way that, for instance, the transition-based Bayern 12/13 and 2010s Real emerged to respond to the wave of tiki-taka ball domination. What we've seen in the Champions League in recent years is that clashes between teams that both play this way can become very chaotic. We see a lot of 10-minute implosions enabled by this style of play. Surely the next step is for the elite clubs is to find a way to yield more control over these games.
It’s obviously effective but it’s not that great to watch, given that professional football only exists because of spectators / viewers.
In big games for sure but once the elite teams saw its possible to dominate insane % of their games against lesser teams, surely you dont move away from that and lesser teams cant do much to change it as the quality gap will always be there.
most indubitably. as socrates once posed “the unexamined life is not worth living,” and few understood the ebbs and flows of football better than that fabled brazilian midfield maestro.
football shall never remain stationary. sedentary philosophies are soon consigned to the annuls of history. a team of archeological surveyors rooting around an archipelago in the atlantic discovered a parchment of mourinho tactics, stratigraphically beneath a fossilised car carcass of a wooly mammoth.
Each to their own I guess
Agreed, it's the opposite of pure creativity in my eyes.
So you like deep lying drop off football?