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Now, they definitely would not have gained full sovereignty, but it would have been a giant step towards it.
Once they put pen on the paper it's done, well done for Arafat not signing the shitty deal, living legally under the Israeli control for eternity.
 

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Netanyahu refuses to be dictated to by a foreign leader and launches a massive military assault on Haifa. Declares Hamas made him do it.
:lol:

Really does feel like we are in a Doctor Strangelove situation. In about a decade we will find out just how insane the conversations between Netanyahu and Biden were.
 

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12 voted in favor of the latest UNSC vote for making Palestine a full UN member.

2 abstained and one voted against.
 

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"accept a commitment" :lol:
again, like a lot of this, would be funny if it wasn't in service of an ongoing genocide.
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i genuinely believe we will have a scientifically interesting generation of psychopaths from gaza - the ones who are about 5-10 years old now and have lost some/most family. some have recently had israeli drones playing the sounds of children crying at them so that they come out and get shot. i guess their trust in others, value for their own life, etc will be fundamentally broken. there are also the effects of extended malnourishment on brain development.
if they get the chance to unleash genuine hell on israel, it would be deserved.
 

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"accept a commitment" :lol:
again, like a lot of this, would be funny if it wasn't in service of an ongoing genocide.
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i genuinely believe we will have a scientifically interesting generation of psychopaths from gaza - the ones who are about 5-10 years old now and have lost some/most family. some have recently had israeli drones playing the sounds of children crying at them so that they come out and get shot. i guess their trust in others, value for their own life, etc will be fundamentally broken. there are also the effects of extended malnourishment on brain development.
if they get the chance to unleash genuine hell on israel, it would be deserved.
Can you elaborate on the bolded? Would you like to see more bloodshed?
 

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Can you elaborate on the bolded? Would you like to see more bloodshed?
what i want is irrelevant
if these kids grow up and get the chance to strike it will be hellish. and to a great extent, a result of this war on them (which is where the "deserved" comes from).
at this point, i think the rational thing for israel to do is to kill and displace and starve more so that this cannot happen.
 

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And immediately after that, Russia and China vetoed the US resolution for an immediate ceasefire and return of the hostages.

UN is the most useless thing ever.
 

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And immediately after that, Russia and China vetoed the US resolution for an immediate ceasefire and return of the hostages.

UN is the most useless thing ever.
Yep, agreed. You’d think in any other situation (democracy and the link) a vote of 12/15 would comfortably carry any motion/resolution but here we literally have 1 vote which vetoes it. What’s the point if it’s that compromised to the whims of 1/minority?
 

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Yep, agreed. You’d think in any other situation (democracy and the link) a vote of 12/15 would comfortably carry any motion/resolution but here we literally have 1 vote which vetoes it. What’s the point if it’s that compromised to the whims of 1/minority?
As it has always been: to protect the interests of superpowers (the US, USSR/Russia, and China).

France and UK have unilaterally (albeit informally) decided to not use veto power (the last time they used it was in 1989).
 

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As it has always been: to protect the interests of superpowers (the US, USSR/Russia, and China).

France and UK have unilaterally (albeit informally) decided to not use veto power (the last time they used it was in 1989).
Interesting, didn't know this, thanks!
 

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Yep, agreed. You’d think in any other situation (democracy and the link) a vote of 12/15 would comfortably carry any motion/resolution but here we literally have 1 vote which vetoes it. What’s the point if it’s that compromised to the whims of 1/minority?
Have you seen some of the members of the security council? The dictionaries in their countries probably don't even have the word democracy in them.
 

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As it has always been: to protect the interests of superpowers (the US, USSR/Russia, and China).

France and UK have unilaterally (albeit informally) decided to not use veto power (the last time they used it was in 1989).
Yeah, pointless organisation.
Have you seen some of the members of the security council? The dictionaries in their countries probably don't even have the word democracy in them.
Yeah I know but my point was more around how voting on matters should (or does) usually work for majority, versus having only a select few with absolute veto powers etc. which makes it completely pointless.