- Jun 22, 2020
Yeah I appreciate we are talking of different times. I was just using my own experiences to get a feel of what it may have been like for some folk. Even in my generation some folk had it worse or better depending where they lived. I'm probably way off but I don't know any other way to try and understand the situation that was so long ago.We were initially talking about the life of the Jews roughly in the middle ages, which is often put forward as some kind of utopia by many Muslims with regards to minority rights. It was certainly much better than it was in Europe but not a life many would consider dignified now. I assume you wouldn't want to pay an extra tax now for being Muslim, nor to wear clothes marking you as one.
I think we also see the plight of Arab Christians, a significant portion of which have left their countries over successive waves of migration, which I assume can't be put down in any way to zionism or Israel.
We can probably hsve a medium between the Arabs would exterminate the Jews to the Jews would be living a similar life there now as we do as minorities in the UK.
With regards to minority rights I'm thinking you are talking about the Jizya or tax for non muslims?
If so it's something that gets used a lot but isn't really looked into. So for example muslims in Muslim lands were all paying 2.5% of their total wealth (so properties livestock etc is all considered) but the "dhimmis" or non muslims are not liable for that. They pay Jiziya which even today would be less than £20 a year. Obviously excluded widows/elderly and children. It also excluded any non muslim joining the military. FYI some muslims in Pakistan claim to be Shia so they only pay the lesser amount to this day.
I'm not suggesting everything was a bed of roses however I do believe the majority of issues leading to migration etc were in large part to geo-political reasons. So for example who had heard of the Yazidis before ISIS?
Also I think depending on which part of history you read it can give a different view. So for me as a Muslim who studied some parts outside of UK my views on likes of Salahuddins and Richard were different to howni was taught in school. Similarly the view of muslims by muslims isn't always what we hear in UK. So the Ottomans for example have critics in the Muslim world and they existed for a long while. You won't get those on CNN when discussing the Caliphate. But this isn't down to them more the media want a foaming at the mouth Islamist or a complete sell out.
The tragedy for me is that the truth is somewhere in between what muslims and non muslims believe or are taught but unless we sit and discuss, in a manner where accusations are off the table, we won't get to the truth.