Because £45m is not an offer you can’t refuse, and Diop is their best defender, signed just a year ago.
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Upamecano would probably be around Maguire agreed, but Konate? Can't see him being much more expensive than Diop.
Ed does love a smoke screen doesn't he .
It’s double what they paid for him after one season. Not my money of course, but it would irk me if they rejected that then accepted £70m. They don’t ‘need’ the money. Greed.
That's not greed, they need the player not the money, so if you want the player you will have to pay more than he is worth because there is no guarantee that they can replace him adequately. If we follow your logic United should just purchase the player that could replace him at West Ham.
I’m sure they will be more than happy for United to walk away if we find their fee too expensive for us.
It is greed. I agree they need the player not the money and he’s only been there one year - so just refuse to sell. Paying £45m would be paying more than he is worth - they got him for £22m.
Still think we won't get a CB.? Still think there not really looking for one?
Pretty sure he's dead
Saw a tweet that the player we offered was Jones.
I hope so, this was my vague hope as to why we extended his contract.
Yes it does. It got West Ham Diop, it also got them their best player Felipe Anderson for £33 million. Balbuena who was a little better than Diop last season for £3.5 million.
Arnautovic they signed the season before for under £20 million.
Now they've signed Fornals for just under £25 million and I bet next year he'll be linked with top clubs and people will say £60 million doesn't buy you a lot these days when he's being linked with moves for that much.
Get the deal done immediately.
Haven't seen a whole lot of him, but if it means we can shift Jones I'm sold.
I rest my case, your honour!
Top player.... and probably better value in today's market... but West Ham don't want to sell and will no doubt want over the odds to release him. Having said that, it is the same for Maguire or Koulibaly.
So if I had my pick of the three, I would go for Diop. Maguire is okay but prone to go sleeping. Kouliably? Well he is top quality but will be OTT price wise. Diop will, even over the odds, be good value.
With all the talk about which players coming to Old Trafford at wildly inflated prices like Maguire and Wan Bissaka and with players like Sanchez who we cant give away we hear nothing about change in the UTD scouting system which seems to be the most useless in the entire league if not Europe
Was Diop not recommended to the club last year at 25 million by any one of these guys ?
Sack them all and start again
We should pay them 45mil just to take Jones.
I think we will get him instead. Maguire in extremely expensive, I mean this guy is also expensive but his price probably in Ed’s range. He looks very good when I watched him. Pace, aggressive but not rush like Bailly, his height allows him to be good in the air, strong. Not sure about his concentration, needs to watch him more. Mourinho was impressed with him when he played against us.
dream scenario if they agree to take any of Bailly, Jones or Rojo. Makes you still have hope the club might be heading in the right direction
Also reportedly asked for Skriniar after rejecting Icardi in return for Lukaku.
You’re right. Encouraging.
minute after I posted this I read we're extending Mata's contract
Lets pray that West Ham are stupid enough to accept that.
Is he good enough on the ball? a physical beast clearly.
No way West Ham will have Jones as part of any deal. They are not stupid. However, if Utd really want Diop they should really go big for him because I think he will be a better buy than Maguire in the long run. So time to stop messing around and test their resolve and if they still won't budge at say £60m then walk away. We appear to spend so much time talking and stalling over every deal it is no wonder nothing happens. I have had a little bet with a mate that we will not sign Fernandes, de Ligt or any of the names we keep being linked with. That was weeks ago. Once again we are being used to crank up the price of players.
We will have the same issue in bringing ball out but still an upgrade over current options.
I've been saying this for years, when was the last time that we uncovered a gem from Europe, De Gea..? before that, Ronaldo?
Apparently De Ligt was scouted a couple of years ago, but was ruled out as having potential weight issues..
But clubs such as Wolves & Leicester don't seem to have any problems finding talented young players at a reasonable price.
He averaged 34.3 passes per game last season. If you look at the top 5 leagues in Europe and check players who are CBs and played 30% of league minutes last season. You get 303 players, he was ranked 271st in passes per game (34.4, average is 48.0). So he's not exactly dominate on the ball at least. His pass completion is average too.
Does not attempt many long passes too!
That's what I feared. We'll end up with the same problems in build up we have now.
Aye, not convinced in him at all. If we are wanting to play it out from the back then he'd be a very, very bad choice. If we want a simple natural defender then he'd be decent.
Can he lead? That's the biggest question mark over him for me. We need a leader at the back who can organise things.
But at least we'll be able to defend so that will be that half of the issue resolved!
So we are already down to 3rd or 4th choices on the mythical list that Ed works from.
I think it’s more likely he consults Youtube...
I think it’s more likely he consults Youtube...
This guy's a beastly defender, although a little raw on the ball based on what I saw of him last year. Played next to Lindelöf, their skillsets could balance each other out though.
Question for those in here who are so-so on this deal but have seen more of the other European leagues - what CB is still out there that would come in and improve us (assuming De Ligt is off the table, and Napoli will ask for upwards of 100M for Koulibaly)? Skriniar is one who impressed me last year, but I'm not sure Inter will be keen to deal if we try to mess about with the Lukaku negotiations. I've seen Ruben Dias' name mentioned but I wasn't impressed by him in the slightest (granted, I only saw him in the CL and the EL this year). The CB market seems to be very top heavy and the dropoff is steep after you get past the Varane, De Ligt, Koulibaly class.
Question for those in here who are so-so on this deal but have seen more of the other European leagues - what CB is still out there that would come in and improve us (assuming De Ligt is off the table, and Napoli will ask for upwards of 100M for Koulibaly)? Skriniar is one who impressed me last year, but I'm not sure Inter will be keen to deal if we try to mess about with the Lukaku negotiations. I've seen Ruben Dias' name mentioned but I wasn't impressed by him in the slightest (granted, I only saw him in the CL and the EL this year). The CB market seems to be very top heavy and the dropoff is steep after you get past the Varane, De Ligt, Koulibaly class.
I dont know, but apparently we have the largest scouting network in the league if not europe. So how we end up with such poor signings I'll never understand
He captained Toulouse while he was there at 19
Give them Jones , Rojo and Bailly for all I care .