It's Coming Home watch | 2024 WE GO AGAIN
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
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2024 Euros will be amazing.
Will be the best tournament (Euros or WC) in a long time.
Will be the best tournament (Euros or WC) in a long time.
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I need to do a comparison of the scouser 'going again' cycle and the 'coming home' England cycle.
Rough calculations though, it took them 30 years to win another PL and it will be 60 years for England at the next world cup and given there's a big international tournament every two years (i.e. half the frequency of the PL seasons), England will officially be more of a laughing stock than Liverpool if they don't win the next World Cup.
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Rough calculations though, it took them 30 years to win another PL and it will be 60 years for England at the next world cup and given there's a big international tournament every two years (i.e. half the frequency of the PL seasons), England will officially be more of a laughing stock than Liverpool if they don't win the next World Cup.
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England created football and introduced it to the world, so every world cup win is directly due to them. In other words, England have actually won every world cup.
It is always home.
It is always home.
Southgate is also only 52 which is pretty young for a manager. Could have another 3 or 4 shots with England
Looks like it did actually come home after all.....
...the Fair Play trophy that is.
...the Fair Play trophy that is.
I think you can pencil in Saka, Bellingham, Rice, Shaw (chance for Chilwell but Shaw has probably been the #1 player throughout Southgate's reign, along with Kane), Stones and Reece James. So the clearest battles are:
Serious Battles:
Foden vs Rashford vs Every Other Winger - Easiest position for young players to break into since pace is so vital, but tough to see past these 2 with Sterling unlikely to improve and those 2 with a bit of time on their side to peak.
Foden vs Maddison vs Ramsey vs Gallagher vs Mount - Maddison would be helped by Toney being the 9 over Kane since Kane drops into the 10 spot a lot, whereas conversely, Ramsey and Gallagher's box to box abilities in the half-space mean they want Kane to stay healthy and not lose a couple steps over the next 18 months. This spot probably doesn't get settled by tournament's start, though Ramsay might grow a ton under Emery and he fits England's goal of basically becoming a France type team that wins with power first and foremost. Maddison has to improve his defensive game, so he might need a move as well, if he could go to say Liverpool or Spurs and win a starting role that would help (be tough with Conte, but if he was good enough he might relegate Kulusevski to RWB and the odd start in a 3-4-2-1), or be a star at Newcastle I guess.
Ramsdale vs Pickford - Henderson has the best penalty record, so he may be the 3rd keeper who comes on to save those, but for the starter I'd say Ramsdale is the slight favorite, and I wouldn't rule out a serious controversy here as Pickford hasn't really done anything to lose the job and might feel aggrieved, but Ramsdale is playing for a good team and is a better passer and just seems like he has more upside.
Guehi vs Colwill vs Maguire vs Tomori vs White vs Chalobah- White would have to get an injury to an Arsenal CB or Southgate really has to commit to him right away as the first choice LCB and hope he and Stones form a nice partnership at international level. Guehi actually plays there and England could use some pace at the back, especially with Walker likely aging into a backup. Colwill seems highly rated and left-footed and a passer, and I could see Potter starting him in the opening game of next season and never looking back, in which case he'd be in with a shout. Maguire needs a move most likely, but he also could just play well with Varane inevitably injured. Most likely though he needs to go to West Ham and look really good again with a deep line.
A Firm Favorite:
Kane vs Toney vs Abraham and all other #9s - Will Kane decline? If he doesn't it's his spot, but Toney might get a big move and big target men strikers who win things in the air are always useful in the chaos of international football without attacking patterns really being a thing. This is probably more of a 2026 question when Kane is 32/33, though we'll see how healthy he stays.