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- Nov 13, 2013
Astute observations, and a very insightful post.I’m not sure it comes naturally unless you have a team of extremely gifted players with an excellent first touch and instinctive tactical ability to continually reposition themselves to create passing lanes (zidane’s CL winning sides come to mind, as does the French side he captained to the World Cup trophy).
Unless you have those sorts of players in virtually every position you have to teach atracking movement, continual repositioning to open up passing lanes, progressive passing through an opposition press into space.
Famously this was what mourinho never taught as a matter of philosophy, believing it should come naturally to attacking players, as Diego Torres describes in his book.
Klopp’s peak dortmund sides are an excellent example of exactly how you can teach inferior players very sophisticated rapid one touch passing and movement through continuous repetition and pattern recognition, thus allowing them to punch significantly above their weight. He’s done similarly at Liverpool, though with superior players at his disposal.
Pep has varied his approach more through the years and the way city play now is different in tempo to his Barca and Bayern sides, more closely approaching the klopp style over and above the continual slow-slow-fast tempo extremely structured juego de posicion he employed at Barca and Bayern.
Yes, Brentford look very much like they’re being extensively coached in terms of repetitive attacking patterns.Astute observations, and a very insightful post.
I’ve watched Brentford a couple of times this season, and I’d say that they are another example of how it is possible to ”get there” with inferior players.
Problem is - however strong your team on paper - you cannot just flip the switch/tell players to do that from next game on and expect to be instantly successfull. That is - beyond some isolated cases, e.g. when the gulf in class is too large for an opposing team to successfully counter that. To be effective on a consistent basis, the team should be (surprise!) coached and prepared for this in advance. If you suddenly decide to play like that without preparation - you will crush some bad teams, yes. But you will have lots of results like 1-3, 2-4, 3-5 (remember LVG vs Leicester?) against midtable teams - as an attempt to play quick one touch football leads to many ball losses if the team is not well-used to it etc. And against top teams you can hardly play like that anyway.Definitely an increase in tempo after half term. As soon as the second half kicked off we were all over them. Playing on the front foot, taking less touches and winning the ball higher. That’s a blue print for how we need to be playing. One and 2 touch football, pass and move. None of this passing along the back 4 and back to De Gea to repeat the cycle again.
Absolutely spot on. What concerned me most with Ole's acknowledgment that we were playing a 4-2-4 system. I scoffed at this initially but this is literally how we set up in the first half and we did the same against Leicester at the weekend.They mentioned it in the coverage last night, but Bruno dropping deeper made the difference for me - he was far to high in the first half and left Fred/Scott struggling to find him.
Top class managers would have seen this in the first 20 mins and would have been screaming down at the touch line telling Bruno to drop deeper.Absolutely spot on. What concerned me most with Ole's acknowledgment that we were playing a 4-2-4 system. I scoffed at this initially but this is literally how we set up in the first half and we did the same against Leicester at the weekend.
He's literally saying we'll have 6 players behind the ball and the 4 up top will be good enough to win us the game on their own, but this, unsurprisingly, created a huge disconnect between the defence/DM's and the attack and makes us incredibly easy to pick off and play through.
I'm not sure whether to credit Ole with changing things at H/T or not because it was so obvious it wasn't working but second half we finally got to see what appeared to be a cohesive unit.
It is my impression that some coaches that are out of their depth tend to paradoxically do touchline instructions more often when it is all going well, but when it is all going bad they are more often just sitting on the bench looking clueless. It is like they are trying to make themselves look competent by creating an impression of causality between their instructions and things going well.Top class managers would have seen this in the first 20 mins and would have been screaming down at the touch line telling Bruno to drop deeper.
Yes you just have to watch old matches on MUTV or Youtube, what stands out is that we had an embarrassment of riches on the pitch and the other main thing that stands out is the tempo.Tempo has been an issue with us for a long time. When you watch old matches, you can see why we were so good. The tempo was often insane.