Ivan Rakitić

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  1. May 21, 2019
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    Why are we willing to pay over 30? 30 should be tops. Knowing how we function we'll pay 60.
  2. May 21, 2019
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    Better to go for Kovačić and make a player out of him.


    Just kidding.
  3. May 21, 2019
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    harms Shining Star of Paektu Mountain Staff

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    He won't be a bad option is it's for reasonable fee. Something closer to 25-30 millions, considering his age and recent form.
  4. May 21, 2019
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    He is just 31 in March. Giggs lasted till 40 when he retired.

    Plan:
    Step 1: Sign Rakitic
    Step 2: Sign Giggs as Yoga coach
    Step 3: Profit?

    Reality...
    Positives...
    1) Leader? Captain?
    2) Quality
    3) Great free kick taker ....James will win us lots of those
    4) Could be a great influence to the younger lads...McTominay, Fred, Pogba (show him what a proper professional looks like), Longstaff?, Garner

    Negatives
    1) Old as fcuk. Good for what 2 years after which point you are already in to the bonus zone. At £30m, that is £15m a year which is reasonable for a top top player, but awful if falls short of expectation.
    2) Can't really build a long term future around a player without a long term future! Being the hub of the team you are then left rebuilding your core again in 2 or 3 years. That said, as per the positive we might already be lining up the future and Rakitic would be like a quality player/ coach.

    On balance I can actually see some real positives. The real negativity comes from it being another high risk move in the mold of Schweinsteiger, Sanchez, Falcao.

    It's easy to look at positives and see why it could work out, but if it doesn't you also have to consider the impact...no resale value, no loan value, no opportunity to improve/ develop.

    The biggest question has to come from why Barcelona would consider selling if they believed he still had plenty to offer.
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  5. May 21, 2019
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    Just want to see Scholes hit a volley.
    As a replacement for Matic I won't mind him at all.

    We're definitely in for him though because I trust Castles.
  6. May 21, 2019
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    I think he would be a Herrera replacement.
  7. May 21, 2019
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    What were his recent quotes?
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    Thankfully he is not against playing with shite players. Just midgets and gays.
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  10. May 21, 2019
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    No, thanks.
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    Despite his anti-gay comments, I could still get behind him
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  16. May 21, 2019
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    Not a fan of this to be honest. Like the Bale rumors you are talking about a guy who is clearly better than what we have but could only be considered short term thinking. If we were knocking on the door of winning the CL then a couple of expensive veterans to have one mad dash for the title makes sense but when you are in a full rebuild you don't shop in the old peoples home.
  17. May 21, 2019
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    Just want to see Scholes hit a volley.
    Although his comments were cnutish nothing he says is illegal or not what a lot of people think anyway. He said he'd rather not have gay people in his life but wouldn't leave a team because of that.

    I think that just makes him an asshole. It becomes a problem if he says something like gay people don't deserve rights or whatever.
  18. May 21, 2019
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    feck off I wouldn’t take him on a free.
  19. May 21, 2019
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    He hasn't slowed down, his last year he's been running even more than before, after his deep WC run he was our hardest worker until March, it's only logical that a player with +6k minutes and a World Cup final in his last seasons hasn't looked as fresh as in January.

    I don't think he's what United needs right now, if he goes he should move to a contender that lacks midfield (PSG for example). Might have 2 world class years in his legs, not a lot more.
  20. May 21, 2019
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    We haven't learned shit in the past 4-5 years, have we? :(
  21. May 21, 2019
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    Ole wants young players that can run, I doubt these rumours are true.
  22. May 21, 2019
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    Our current options are:
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  23. May 21, 2019
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    Ugh, no thanks. Inter player if I ever saw one.
  24. May 21, 2019
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    If he was a free then yeah.

    But to spend 30m on a 31yo isn’t the wisest move.
  25. May 21, 2019
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    Think Barca are the ones pushing this.
  27. May 21, 2019
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    I mean, he's a player that can do a hell of a job for a team that lacks his specific role to win titles, I don't think it's wise to sign Rakitic to play him with Fred, Rashford, Martial, Dalot, Mctominay... by the time United are back in the top of the league, they'd need to replace Rakitic.

    Rakitic is a fair player, but right now, Utd would do a better investment of that money nurturing a player that can be like rakitic for the next 6 years, not to waste his last couple years of good football fighting for the 4th spot.
  28. May 21, 2019
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    Shut it down.

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    Good player, not sure at 31 he'll be able to adapt to PL quickly though.
  30. May 22, 2019
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    Generally better to avoid signing players of this age, but if it's just one and not loads of them then it's fine.

    Also, Rakitic could probably still be excellent until he's 34-35, given his technical ability and the type of player he is.

    The United midfield has lacked composure on the ball in big games and he would provide that.
  31. May 22, 2019
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    Too old and an ugly bigot.
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    Always wanted him when he was at Sevilla but a bit too late now.
  33. May 22, 2019
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    In our current position - one (or two) older heads who can still offer quality to the first team would actually be crucial. Yes, we’re rebuilding, but not every player needs to be here for 5+ years.

    Zlatan’s year here was great for the dressing room. Rakitic for a decent fee (around £20-25m) would be a great signing - we lack leadership in midfield (and in general).

    You can point to Schweinsteiger, but he was barely getting games for Bayern cos of his fitness issues before he signed. Alexis and Matic were already showing signs of being weary before they signed.

    Any time I’ve watched Barca, Rakitic has looked in great condition and like he can run for days - plus he has great quality with the ball. Barca are notoriously bad sellers (like us), so we can probably get a good deal, especially as they’ll want to clear his wages.
  34. May 22, 2019
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    Past his best and isn't interested in leaving Barcelona, they just want shot of him as they know he's past it and have already bought his replacements. A player who has won everything, doesn't want to leave the club he's at and would only be comng for the money would just be a repeat of the mistakes we've been making for years.
  35. May 22, 2019
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    This is a joke surely?

    His on field theatrics will endear too, no doubt:rolleyes:
  36. May 22, 2019
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    Matitic midfield duo
  37. May 22, 2019
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    Imagine him and Matic in midfield. Let's recall Scholes too.
  38. May 22, 2019
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    I don't want Rakitic here and never have. But there's absolutely no chance he's going to want to come here to play with our other rumoured targets and current group of players.
  39. May 22, 2019
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    Barca fans want him gone. His legs looked like they were gone along with Busquets.
  40. May 22, 2019
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    If he joins United, then the media will roundly judge and execute him. People lose their jobs on a regular basis for things they’ve put on social media previously as certain companies want to be right on pc.