Of course it's true.. You don't like our managers, that's just the way it is. It's also true, that you would have loved him, had he been your manager.Completely disagree.
Of course it's true.. You don't like our managers, that's just the way it is. It's also true, that you would have loved him, had he been your manager.Completely disagree.
I mean when you watch the replay it does sound like a whistle is blown. He literally catches the ball when going to attack a corner. There would be no advantage gained, so why would you catch the ball? Quite a weird example to use.5. Ronaldo was sent off for handball in one match during Nov 2008. The following excuses were used: It was an act of self-defence; Ronaldo thought he heard a whistle; Ronaldo was pushed; It was the crowds fault; The decision was harsh as he hadn't 'punched' the ball
On recent evidence I suspect he'd be disliked even more.Of course it's true.. You don't like our managers, that's just the way it is. It's also true, that you would have loved him, had he been your manager.
It wouldn't be Liverpool if they didn't do ridiculous stuff like thisIt would have been a great response if he was talking about another manager who had won feck all and bottled every major final he had been in.
But he is comparing Klopp to the greatest manager in british football history, so yeah.
Cried in each others arms for 20 minutes. He seems to be emotionally unbalanced.Ialways thought he was a bit of a goon, check out this interview from 2013
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/may/21/jurgen-klopp-borussia-dortmund-champions-league particularly the Kagawa quote
“He hits his head with his palm. "Shinji Kagawa is one of the best players in the world and he now plays 20 minutes at Manchester United – on the left wing! My heart breaks. Really, I have tears in my eyes. Central midfield is Shinji's best role. He's an offensive midfielder with one of the best noses for goal I ever saw. But for most Japanese people it means more to play for Man United than Dortmund. We cried for 20 minutes, in each others' arms, when he left. “
Definitely.Of course it's true.. You don't like our managers, that's just the way it is. It's also true, that you would have loved him, had he been your manager.
It's such a baseless kop out argument, and also untrue. Many of us don't hate him. We just think he's a cringe merchant and poor sport and he struggles to prove us Wrong. But I guess it's easier to point and laugh at United fans and dismiss their opinion and pretend everyone loves your manager and team.Of course it's true.. You don't like our managers, that's just the way it is. It's also true, that you would have loved him, had he been your manager.
I agree on that completely. Klopp brings some ridiculous argument to the forefront. But some of the comments from United fans on Klopp here smells of nothing but Jealousy and complete bias. It happens with famous individuals, they keep getting judged by others who have no chance of reaching there. To be frank, as much as I have the grudging respect for Sir Alex being probably amongst the top 5 all time managers, I sometimes found his actions cringe-worthy as well and sometimes very snooty.It's such a baseless kop out argument, and also untrue. Many of us don't hate him. We just think he's a cringe merchant and poor sport and he struggles to prove us Wrong. But I guess it's easier to point and laugh at United fans and dismiss their opinion and pretend everyone loves your manager and team.
"The sky was too blue."Klopper's future excuses:
"We lost because God is English and hates Germans".
"We lost because Liverpool is too close to Ireland"
I certainly don't expect you or anyone else to like him or our team. Why would you?! But some of the harsh statements in here is clearly biased because he is our manager. He does use some poor excuses now and then, but every word he says is highlighted and twisted to make it more cringe than it is. Show me a manager who doesn't make excuses when his team loses?It's such a baseless kop out argument, and also untrue. Many of us don't hate him. We just think he's a cringe merchant and poor sport and he struggles to prove us Wrong. But I guess it's easier to point and laugh at United fans and dismiss their opinion and pretend everyone loves your manager and team.
Ugh who told you what I was going to say?Klopper's future excuses:
"We lost because God is English and hates Germans".
"We lost because Liverpool is too close to Ireland"
"The stars in the sky were not aligned for us. That should not be allowed.""The sky was too blue."
Maybe that’s why players love playing for Klopp. ‘Manager cares for his players shocker’ Seriously, what is he playing at, why would he actually want to like his players and want them to do well. It’s plain stupid.Ialways thought he was a bit of a goon, check out this interview from 2013
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/may/21/jurgen-klopp-borussia-dortmund-champions-league particularly the Kagawa quote
“He hits his head with his palm. "Shinji Kagawa is one of the best players in the world and he now plays 20 minutes at Manchester United – on the left wing! My heart breaks. Really, I have tears in my eyes. Central midfield is Shinji's best role. He's an offensive midfielder with one of the best noses for goal I ever saw. But for most Japanese people it means more to play for Man United than Dortmund. We cried for 20 minutes, in each others' arms, when he left. “
To be honest if Solskjaer starts blaming wind and offside goals etc then I would be disappointed. He actually told reporters that one of our goals was offside and we were lucky! The man is the definition of humble.I certainly don't expect you or anyone else to like him or our team. Why would you?! But some of the harsh statements in here is clearly biased because he is our manager. He does use some poor excuses now and then, but every word he says is highlighted and twisted to make it more cringe than it is. Show me a manager who doesn't make excuses when his team loses?
I don't mind though. It's fine. The better we perform, the more hate he gets. But don't pretend, that the outrage towards him has nothing to do with him being our manager. Of course it has. Like it was with Rodgers and Benitez before him.
Like I said.. You don't like our managers. We don't like yours either. Just the way it is. It's hard to dislike Solskjaer for now, but if he gets the job permanent, he will get there too eventually.
That's a pretty strange and disingenuous line of reasoning. Klopp gets criticised therefore people are jealous of his achievements in management because they couldn't do the same? How many aspirational football managers do you think Redcafe houses?I agree on that completely. Klopp brings some ridiculous argument to the forefront. But some of the comments from United fans on Klopp here smells of nothing but Jealousy and complete bias. It happens with famous individuals, they keep getting judged by others who have no chance of reaching there. To be frank, as much as I have the grudging respect for Sir Alex being probably amongst the top 5 all time managers, I sometimes found his actions cringe-worthy as well and sometimes very snooty.
Among managers it's only those who have not achieved the pinnacle but did good with their resources are seen with a romanticist eye, like Sir Bobby Robson in England or Tele Santana in Brazil.
That said, both Liverpool and united fan-base have their fair share of nincompoops.
Let's see how humble he is, when the pressure sets in. When he's in a titlerace or going through a bad patch. The thing is, if Solskjaer is succesful, you don't really care what he says. If Mourinho, LVG or Moyes had been succesful, you wouldn't either.To be honest if Solskjaer starts blaming wind and offside goals etc then I would be disappointed. He actually told reporters that one of our goals was offside and we were lucky! The man is the definition of humble.
Anyway, I'm sure you know this by now but you'll need thick skin to be on a United forum as a Liverpool supporter. If the worst we can do is moan about Klopp a bit, your club is doing something right.
Going by the posts, atleast lot of keyboard managers, if not aspirational. And it is not something intrinsic to redcafe as well.That's a pretty strange and disingenuous line of reasoning. Klopp gets criticised therefore people are jealous of his achievements in management because they couldn't do the same? How many aspirational football managers do you think Redcafe houses?
There is only 28 days in February."The stars in the sky were not aligned for us. That should not be allowed."
Been there before. Been there before.Still top of the league though. Still top of the league
But Klopp hasn't been successful at Liverpool?Going by the posts, atleast lot of keyboard managers, if not aspirational. And it is not something intrinsic to redcafe as well.
Sorry if I put my statements in wrong sequence, but in no way I am defending Klopp here. I just wanted to point out that successful people are almost always loathed by some portion of the public, rightly or wrongly. Happens in every profession. Regarding football managers, it is also bound to happen, especially for successful managers.
P.S: And yes, successful people get more scrutinized because they are successful.
Doubt it will barely get mentioned by the mediaWatch him dodge all questions regarding the offside tonight. cnut.
that nervous laughterWatch him dodge all questions regarding the offside tonight. cnut.
Who said he was tactically inept? He's lost so many cup finals, his big game management is questionable and that largely has to do with thoroughness in tactical preparation. I think it's quite clear that Klopp doesn't have the tactical awareness of the elite managers. That doesn't mean he knows nothing about tactics, there are degrees to this.I have no idea how intelligent Klopp is but I do think you are doing him disservice by calling him “basic” considering his merits. I can’t imagine a manager of his quality being as tactically inept as you seem to insinuate.
As for his Dortmund time, I don’t know what he was like as I don’t follow the Bundesliga, nevermind watch interviews with the managers.
Just watched that ‘I almost cried’ clip and yeah, it’s a bit corny
I mean I get you a bit but his teams in finals have pretty much always been worse than their opponents in quality.Who said he was tactically inept? He's lost so many cup finals, his big game management is questionable and that largely has to do with thoroughness in tactical preparation. I think it's quite clear that Klopp doesn't have the tactical awareness of the elite managers. That doesn't mean he knows nothing about tactics, there are degrees to this.
Put it simply, If i were to pick out the brightest football minds since the 21st century, Klopp would not even be considered. That doesnt mean he's a bad coach, that's just not his strength. He is a good motivator and adapts to his players well, that makes him a good coach.
Right and them being inferior on the day is just an unavoidable truth, managers can't really do much about that, cup upsets aren't something that happens every season.I mean I get you a bit but his teams in finals have pretty much always been worse than their opponents in quality.
fixedthat fake laughter
"I haven't seen it, I really can't telly ou anything about it, hahahahah, but, we need bit of luck, cause of the snow, wind, rain, sprinklers..that Valencia offside."Watch him dodge all questions regarding the offside tonight. cnut.
"Those bubbles..... I've never seen anything like it, could'n concentrate, and my players were a bit lost! Is that allowed in Premier league? hahahahahahaha, should not be""The smell of the supporters made it difficult for us"