He’s already dropped his penalty bomb so I wonder what other shite Klopp will spout about us in his presser?
Jurgen Klopp Sack Watch
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
My honest guess if there is no controversy, would be he will blame it on injuries and COVID, completely ignoring the fact that its normal to get injuries and they did extremely well to have so few last year.
he might even go for the less obvious "we should not be finishing the season this year, lets null and void the league"
Luckily I've long ago decided to not let a stranger on the internet tell me what I can or cannot be interested in.
You do you.
You watching the match on Sunday or is there a darts match being streamed anywhere?
Your team has literally won one league title in 30 years, and that has a massive asterisk next to it. Indeed for all we know that could be the last one for another 30 years.
You’re in the wrong place to be lecturing people about great teams as most of our fans (bar younger age groups) have prior knowledge of what it takes to not only win a title but also sustain multiple league titles over periods of time.
https://www.espn.com/soccer/liverpo...s-players-dive-too-former-referee-clattenburg
Clattenburg rightly calling out Klopp.
Clattenburg rightly calling out Klopp.
Oh feck me. As if the team you support has to be great itself in order for you to understand (or argue, you don't have to agree with my take) what it takes to be considered a great team
Your sense of superiority is totally misplaced.Was just coming to post this. Hope Tierny has seen Clatenburg's comments and it influences him - just not in the way Klopp hoped.
fecking Clattenberg. Loves a headline, the prick.
wasnt he the ref who joined the Liverpool squad on their charted plane to the Far East on a pre-season jolly then awarded them 3 pens and sent Vidi coff at OT?
Look at Uniteds penalty record under Fergie. Less than Liverpool and is more memorable for the ones we didn’t get.
wasnt he the ref who joined the Liverpool squad on their charted plane to the Far East on a pre-season jolly then awarded them 3 pens and sent Vidi coff at OT?
Look at Uniteds penalty record under Fergie. Less than Liverpool and is more memorable for the ones we didn’t get.
He actually mentions that in that Daily Mail article. He is only ref who gave 3 penalties at OT - and it was for Liverpool but, that probably wouldn't have happened with Fergie.
But, beyond his own failings, rightly also calling out Klopp for his hypocrisy and also blatant attempt to try influence before a big game. If anything hopefully will have an effect of canceling the noise out from Klopp, even better if now it goes in our favor.
Well, it's clear now what needs to happen. United should be stripped of all titles between 1997 and 2013. It's only fair.
Is Bear Grylls still refing? if so he should be fined for this comment.
Wait, what, why?
Bla bla bla. No United fan are saying we are a great team yet. We know what a great team looks like, we had many who achieved much more then your best team in 30 years.
Forget us to be excited after a great run and being top of the league. Which we haven't been since SAF retired. We are on an United forum after all. Most of us don't think we are even favorites to win the league. So I don't see your point.
But we are the youngest team in the league and on the up so the futur looks bright.
And saying a great team blow smaller teams away is not true in this league, not on a regular basis anyway. You had a lot of results like us last year but you don't seem to remember.
By the way, greatest team in my view are not the ones with the most of points in the league but the ones with multiple trophies. So I don't think your team from the two last years and City were that great. Not as great as United 99 and 08 any way. It is something else to win the treble or the double.
or 3 titles on the bounce (how many times?) and only an injury time goal from the Berts prevented how many on the bounce when they won on goal difference?
McAteer saying we’re in a “false” position at the top. I don’t know why the likes of Neville bother to try so hard not to be biased when there’s so many scouse clowns who shamelessly mouth off.
These are the same lot who fancied they were going to win everything when they were shit and it was only down to the referees they didn’t. So now they’re actually league champions it’s no surprise they’re thinking it’s all a conspiracy that they’re struggling tbf.
These are the same lot who fancied they were going to win everything when they were shit and it was only down to the referees they didn’t. So now they’re actually league champions it’s no surprise they’re thinking it’s all a conspiracy that they’re struggling tbf.
Coming from you?
95th Min debatable pen V Leicester last season
93rd min winner v Villa
Needed Fabianksi to make 2 mistakes to score V West Ham
Needed Henderson to make mistake to beat SU
Needed VAR luck to beat city (handball)
I remember being told by a German football fan that Klopp was hated by the majority in the country while he was at Dortmund, and didn’t believe it since he was portrayed by the English press as a jolly, down to earth, respectful man.
...now I fully understand what he was talking about.
...now I fully understand what he was talking about.
The second sentence in quotation marks is not in the article
My point? I didn't have a point. I just posted that I didn't think you were anything special and that's what started all this. I get that you are excited, rightfully so. And I don't think Liverpool 20 were a greater side than Utd 99 or 08 either.
Combined with a crazy unbeaten streak and commanding wins against all other contenders (City 3-0, Leicester 0-4 off the top of my head, with victories at Chelsea and against Arsenal very early in the season). Remind me which Utd victory was a statement of intent like that? The 6-2 against the almighty Leeds probably comes closest.
Coming from you?
95th Min debatable pen V Leicester last season
93rd min winner v Villa
Needed Fabianksi to make 2 mistakes to score V West Ham
Needed Henderson to make mistake to beat SU
Needed VAR luck to beat city (handball)
Never said we have made any intent.. I am just pointing out the simple facts that when Liverpool get a bit of luck its intent but when another team does it, you want to put it down?
Losing 3-0 to a team that got relegated too..
Liverpool were one of the favs last season to win the league and this year too, so I don't really care how we get our results. We can win all our games 1-0 int he 90th minute for all I care.
There is no written rule to say to get lucky with a 1-0 win you have to win 4 4-0 games.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...BURG-Stop-hypocrite-Jurgen-guys-dive-too.html
Full article. Everything what he said, stands imo. Even for things against us.
Always rated him highly. Unlike this untalented bunch today (Friend, Dean....)
Full article. Everything what he said, stands imo. Even for things against us.
Always rated him highly. Unlike this untalented bunch today (Friend, Dean....)
Of course not. There's also no written rule that says it requires a great team to win the league. Don't expect me to call this United side great if you can't win against top opposition and grind out small victories against the bottom half of the league. You'd be deserved league winners if you end up winning the league in that case, sure enough and congrats, but that also doesn't equal a great team. I guess there are plenty of people on here who still think Liverpool 19/20 weren't a great team, and that's fair enough too. Leicester weren't a great team either to me when they won the league, just the best of an average bunch. Doesn't mean they didn't deserve it or that it was not an incredible achievement.
So take penalties out of the premier league this season and that puts Man Utd on 33 points in second and Liverpool in 9th on 26 points. I think he can shut up now.
https://www.sportbible.com/football...b5hSRRE_I2vmtcnyyPZZABsXhC2AX-bu5uR8DRqUlE3KI
https://www.sportbible.com/football...b5hSRRE_I2vmtcnyyPZZABsXhC2AX-bu5uR8DRqUlE3KI
Fair enough.. tbh I couldn't care less if anyone called us great or not if we won it. I don't think this is a great united team, it has lots of holes in it, which is why if we somehow managed to do it, it would be a great achievement.
As Utd fans we've spent decades with opposition fans slagging us off saying we're not all that while going about our business.
Oh!!! We are devastated. Don't do this to us please!! We desperately need your approval and validation to feel better about our team. Please reconsider.
On a serious note: your long post does sound a little bit like sour grapes where you quote individual results to prove that United's run has elements of luck involved which is as generic a statement as it can get. Of course we have quite a bit of road to travel to be able to dominate a game against Man City or Liverpool but none of us are bothered about that right now. We are making progress, that's it. We can leave the legacy of being a "great team" for later.
Was definitely not meant to sound like that, I didn't bring it up myself but rather as a a counter-argument, playing devil's advocate in my response to someone who thought that you had been great this season. Let me just say that I 100% agree that you have all the reasons to be enthousiast and optimistic about your team right now - you're top of the league (and most fans rightfully won't care how you got there) and your team has a lot of potential.
Agree with this, he's a good player but he's basically a midfielder playing at fullback in a system that made him look excellent and somewhat hid his weaknesses. He's not an excellent fullback.
I'm only joking.
It’s in the Daily Mail version.The second sentence in quotation marks is not in the article
But anyway, he’s saying that ‘aura’ or belief we got all the decisions has eased, not that the favourable decisions have become less. You’ve got pricks like ex-Liverpool Didi Hamann losing his shit on Twitter about it, scousers frothing at the mouth (pretty easy with that accent tbf) when they just aren’t reading properly.
Clattenburg feeding into football's Qanon.
I'm surprised he didn't call Fergie a lizard.
I'm surprised he didn't call Fergie a lizard.
We’re obviously not a great side. Great sides win more than one league title.
Made it way too obvious there, still a good attempt though.
I did the maths on this earlier and I’m pretty sure it’s wrong in terms of united, although the Liverpool number seem to be correct. Looking at united we would have dropped two points each against Villa, Brighton and West Brom i.e. six points (compared to Liverpool’s seven). This would put us on 30 points level with Spurs I think? Maybe someone can correct me if I’m wrong.
Strange that espn didn't include it.
I can imagine the uproar. Scousers must be signing the petition to revoke all titles under SAF and printing out shirts as we speak.Why you obsessed about a commanding win against supposed big hitters like Chelsea and arsenal who are down the table?
We've Already tanked everton away, and beat Southampton, while drawing against leiciester and city. We currently sit top of the actual table. Makes no odds if we hammer yous at weekend and then lose or drew against low down teams. Points total end of season all that matters. You get the title win and bonus trophy for hammering the most top 6 sides.
I've experienced 13 title wins from us over the years, every year was different from the other, some years you be top of that imaginary top 6 big game table, other years be near the bottom but didn't matter as we tanked all the other teams.
The point you are making is stupid
Just do it, you know you want to