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Perez taking the leadershhip of this just to save themselves and barcelona from the massive amount of debts they are in.

No way these two teams would back English teams otherwise.
 

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Would be interesting to see what he does at the end of the season. It's not easy for a manager to leave mid-season after putting in work for the whole year, especially when you still have a goal left in the season (to reach the top 4).

Once the season is done, then I feel he can think more about resigning (same with other managers) but right now he's right in saying he has a job and a responsibility towards his players.
Do we though? Wouldn't the ESL replace the CL for the "founding clubs"? The season seems meaningless for us know. I didn't celebrate when we scored and I felt nothing when Leeds equalized yesterday, the game felt as useless as could possibly be to me.

Re: Klopp, I would've liked him to come out stronger than he did but it's clear he's against the idea and he confirmed that as well. Anyone expecting him to quit on the spot was living in an alternate reality.
 

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Reaching the top 4? What does that do?
That's a valid question :lol:

It's still a psychological thing maybe, it was a goal they have had for a while and he probably still thinks it is. Do you think, even after this, that if Liverpool don't make the top 4 the players and manager will be criticised for not reaching it?

It's a strange situation for everyone at the club, which is also why I agree with Klopp's sentiment that Neville's aim was a bit off in his criticism. He was saying Liverpool, United etc are evil etc but he has to remember 99% of the people associated with the clubs had no idea about this, it was a couple of people who made the decision and the rest of the club (the fans, players, managers, staff) should not be included with them.

Obviously you can't expect Neville to name the owners every time and he would have to say the clubs name, implecitly meaning the owners, but then you have to understand the frustration of Klopp with having everyone dragged in the mud with them. One can say it's obvious Neville means that, but with the disrespectful sh*te Leeds pulled on the Liverpool players you can understand why Klopp feels people need to be careful in where they are aiming their criticism.

Both are wrong and right at the same time. It's just a mental situation for everyone associated with club football, except those fecking owners who are calmly watching this from their mansions.
 

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He's always been a massive cry baby with contempt for other clubs. I support West Brom and we've had him making snide comments numerous times for having the audacity to take points off them. Most famously his tirade that us drawing against them was pointless because we didn't need the point and they did: " "It feels like a complete waste of points, they don’t need it, we would have needed it. ".

I am the least surprised person this bitter clown doesn't actually oppose the Super League
when pushed to club. He showed his true colours against us ages ago in how he deems teams like us not worthy.
Nail on the head. This was never a surprise, the ones surprised are gullible children. All it took was for him to lose points and his faux hero persona went down the gutter quicker than scousers leaving jobcentres.
 

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I really hope the other “big six” managers have the stones to do the same but I won’t hold my breath. So far we have Ole completely avoiding the topic and Tuchel toeing the party line.
Klopp is in a much stronger position of power than those two are. He can say what he wants and keep his job. Or if he loses it, he gets a huge pay off and he walks into just about any other job he likes. Him and Guardiola are the only ones in that position. I think it’s a little unfair to expect Solskjaer to do it. Firstly because he won’t walk into any other job he likes and managing Manchester United is the only job that matters to him. That doesn’t apply to Guardiola or Klopp. Or Tuchel for that matter.
 

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I actually have no idea what Klopp is on about re: Neville.
He sounded really petty after the match. It's like he just wanted to move away from this SL subject and focus on Neville. I was extremely disappointed with his post match interview.

Imagine Ole going on rant against Carragher and calling glazers good people.
 

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He sounded really petty after the match. It's like he just wanted to move away from this SL subject and focus on Neville. I was extremely disappointed with his post match interview.

Imagine Ole going on rant against Carragher and calling glazers good people.
 

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Still doesn't justify the pettiness of Klopp. Funny how he chose not to say a word against Carragher who also criticized Liverpool. Hey nice way to fool Liverpool supporters by ranting against a Manchester United legend. Pettiness at it's best.
 

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Seriously. I like that he is against the ESL and says it but he needs to stop whining about other teams treating them unfairly and take one on the chin. Did the players and coaching teams deserve the mocking? Maybe not them personal but the club definitely deserved this. I wouldn't hold it against the next team that plays against us if they got a dig in.
 

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Seriously. I like that he is against the ESL and says it but he needs to stop whining about other teams treating them unfairly and take one on the chin. Did the players and coaching teams deserve the mocking? Maybe not them personal but the club definitely deserved this. I wouldn't hold it against the next team that plays against us if they got a dig in.
But that's the question, where is he getting this idea that people are questioning the players and the managers. He is either intentionally trying to turn this into pundit vs players/managers therby shifting the focus or he is a fool.
 

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Klopp is in a much stronger position of power than those two are. He can say what he wants and keep his job. Or if he loses it, he gets a huge pay off and he walks into just about any other job he likes. Him and Guardiola are the only ones in that position. I think it’s a little unfair to expect Solskjaer to do it. Firstly because he won’t walk into any other job he likes and managing Manchester United is the only job that matters to him. That doesn’t apply to Guardiola or Klopp. Or Tuchel for that matter.
Fair point.

Although Tuchel would have no shortage of job offers if Chelsea showed him the door.
 

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Klopp is in a much stronger position of power than those two are. He can say what he wants and keep his job. Or if he loses it, he gets a huge pay off and he walks into just about any other job he likes. Him and Guardiola are the only ones in that position. I think it’s a little unfair to expect Solskjaer to do it. Firstly because he won’t walk into any other job he likes and managing Manchester United is the only job that matters to him. That doesn’t apply to Guardiola or Klopp. Or Tuchel for that matter.
You make it sound like Ole is not a millionaire who s set for life. He can make a noise about this, resign and then live out his days safe in the knowledge that he stood up for something many people are passionate about.

Then he can even go back to Molde and manage them. I think they'd be my new club if that happens.
 

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You make it sound like Ole is not a millionaire who s set for life. He can make a noise about this, resign and then live out his days safe in the knowledge that he stood up for something many people are passionate about.

Then he can even go back to Molde and manage them. I think they'd be my new club if that happens.
He could, but I don’t think it’s fair to expect him to do that either. I’m not sure even Alex Ferguson would’ve.

Of the managers of these six clubs, he’s the one with the most to lose. It’s much easier for Klopp or Guardiola who both make considerably more money and who will have their pick of jobs.
 

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Klopp bottled it last night. Hopefully Solskjaer does right by the fans. If there's significant resistance by Friday it might be easier for him to do so
 

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Klopp attempting to take shots at Neville for a fairly tame comment about YAWN in the context of everything that's happening made him look a right tit last night. I'm not Neville's biggest fan but he spoke well and did well to put Klopp right on his stupid digs.

Perhaps Klopp is frustrated he can't say more than he has but I don't think that put him in a good light at all. Neville and Carragher were actually very generous in their appraisal of his pre-match interview, he might be opposed to it but Klopp didn't say very much in that interview to put that point across.
 

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Imagine Ole going on rant and calling glazers good people.
You're saying this as if he's not already repeatedly done so, while calling out our "loud fans who are not the best fans".

I'd be extremely surprised if he went back to stand by his 2005 comments against the Glazers. Even in the face of losing football I can see this spineless yes man bending over once again. Fine legacy you're about to leave behind Ole; the enabler of the death of football for a few extra quid and months in the spotlight.
 
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Klopp bottled it last night. Hopefully Solskjaer does right by the fans. If there's significant resistance by Friday it might be easier for him to do so
I think he'll stay out of it to be honest.

Him and the players are in a really crappy position. Stuck in the spotlight having to answer questions about something they had no input in and no control over that they likely think is a pile of shit but their bosses are all for.
 

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You're saying this as if he's not already repeatedly done so, while calling out our "loud fans who are not the best fans".

I'd be extremely surprised if he went back to stand by his 2005 comments against the Glazers. Even in the face of losing football I can see this spineless yes man bending over once again. Fine legacy you're about to leave behind Ole; the enabler of the death of football for a few extra quid and months in the spotlight.
But did Ole defend the glazers after the super league story broke out and rant on a tv pundit.

And if Ole is puppet so is klopp and tuchel.
 

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But did Ole defend the glazers after the super league story broke out and rant on a tv pundit.

And if Ole is puppet so is klopp and tuchel.
And time will tell which of these puppets take the high ground and resign (rightfully so). Or which will stick around stating their hands are tied, etc.

Klopp could well be one of those puppets that stick around. But his demeanour and comments seen to suggest he won't. Tuchel is up next for the roasting tonight. Ole is lucky he has until Sunday before being forced to open his mouth, though nothing is stopping him from speaking now. Why won't he speak? Let's see if Leeds players hand Utd players the Earn It t-shirts too.
 

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And time will tell which of these puppets take the high ground and resign (rightfully so). Or which will stick around stating their hands are tied, etc.

Klopp could well be one of those puppets that stick around. But his demeanour and comments seen to suggest he won't. Tuchel is up next four the roasting tonight. Ole is lucky he has until Sunday before being forced to open his mouth, though nothing is stopping him from speaking now. Why won't he speak? Let's see if Leeds players hand Utd players the Earn It t-shirts too.
But it's not about Ole vs klopp. My original comment was how klopp was focusing more on Neville when neville in MNF did clarify he never blamed the players or managers. Klopp took out on easy target and half of the Liverpool fans like yourself will buy it. Hence I said imagine if Ole did the same, he would also feel the heat ( at least from me)
 

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But it's not about Ole vs klopp. My original comment was how klopp was focusing more on Neville when neville in MNF did clarify he never blamed the players or managers. Klopp took out on easy target and half of the Liverpool fans like yourself will buy it. Hence I said imagine if Ole did the same, he would also feel the heat ( at least from me)
And the reason for focusing on Neville is because he is a hypocritical twat, per the above video. As is Carragher. But Neville for longer. Klopp took it personally just like Utd fans probably would have in 1992 when Hansen was calling Ferguson a sellout. It's an emotional time for those involved.
 

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And the reason for focusing on Neville is because he is a hypocritical twat, per the above video. As is Carragher. But Neville for longer. Klopp took it personally just like Utd fans probably would have in 1992 when Hansen was calling Ferguson a sellout. It's an emotional time for those involved.
But doesn't make klopp or fergie correct. I agree neville can be a pain but I don't understand why Klopp took Neville's comments personally when there was no indication that he was mocking Liverpool players or Klopp. He openly was disgusted with Manchester United owners as well as Liverpool. He said he was disappointed the most with these two clubs. What's wrong with that. Carragher also had the same opinion, nothing wrong with that. Klopp coming after the game to specifically talk about Neville when Neville in the MNF clearly clarified again that he was not mocking Liverpool players or manager and he even apologized if Klopp felt that way. Klopp's comments just looked childish.
 

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And the reason for focusing on Neville is because he is a hypocritical twat, per the above video. As is Carragher. But Neville for longer. Klopp took it personally just like Utd fans probably would have in 1992 when Hansen was calling Ferguson a sellout. It's an emotional time for those involved.
Nope. That never happened. Fergie was the only manager in 1992 who was against it and raised issues.

Manchester United's manager, Alex Ferguson, described it as a 'nonsense' which would 'sell supporters down the river'.
https://books.google.ie/books?id=yjmdDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA111&dq=alex+ferguson+1992+against+the+Premier+league&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj-moPm3IzwAhWTsnEKHTwPBdMQ6AEwAXoECAIQAw#v=onepage&q=alex ferguson 1992 against the Premier league&f=false
 
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And the reason for focusing on Neville is because he is a hypocritical twat, per the above video. As is Carragher. But Neville for longer. Klopp took it personally just like Utd fans probably would have in 1992 when Hansen was calling Ferguson a sellout. It's an emotional time for those involved.
It seemed like Klopp chose to misinterpret what Neville said as a deflection exercise. Are you really suggesting he misunderstood what Neville meant?
 

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Had the opportunity to come out and criticise the plans but no, Klopp being the wanker he is decided to criticise Gary Neville instead. The sooner he fecks off out of English football the better.
 

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But that's the question, where is he getting this idea that people are questioning the players and the managers. He is either intentionally trying to turn this into pundit vs players/managers therby shifting the focus or he is a fool.
As far as I have read it he was mainly speaking about the action Leeds did before the game with their training shirts and apparently they had also put them in the Liverpool locker, which he apparently thought was a bad move because he thought it was supposed to pressure them into wearing them or look like the bad guys. He also mentioned that he thought it was rude they were shouted at and booed by the Leeds fans when they came to the stadium as if it was their fault that Liverpool higher ups decided to join the ESL. At least that is how the situation was portrayed in Kicker, Nevilles name wasn't even mentioned.

But like I said I don't get his reaction either, of course he and the team didn't make the decision but fans are going to vent their frustration at someone so now to whine about it seems a bit stupid. It's alright when he says "Me and the team didn't make that decision but I can understand that fans are angry and need an outlet for this at the moment but we were not part of that decision process."

Edit: just noticed there seems to be an interview where he specifically mentions Neville or something, well if that's the case he really needs to stop whining, Neville feels the same way about this being a shitty move from United and Liverpool and pretty much everyone else involved.
 

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And the reason for focusing on Neville is because he is a hypocritical twat, per the above video. As is Carragher. But Neville for longer. Klopp took it personally just like Utd fans probably would have in 1992 when Hansen was calling Ferguson a sellout. It's an emotional time for those involved.
Come on, you are bright enough to understand what Klopp was doing?
 

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You're saying this as if he's not already repeatedly done so, while calling out our "loud fans who are not the best fans".

I'd be extremely surprised if he went back to stand by his 2005 comments against the Glazers. Even in the face of losing football I can see this spineless yes man bending over once again. Fine legacy you're about to leave behind Ole; the enabler of the death of football for a few extra quid and months in the spotlight.
What the feck kind of post is this?

Slagging off Ole before he has even said something??

Ahahahahaha, Jesus.
 

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And the reason for focusing on Neville is because he is a hypocritical twat, per the above video. As is Carragher. But Neville for longer. Klopp took it personally just like Utd fans probably would have in 1992 when Hansen was calling Ferguson a sellout. It's an emotional time for those involved.
If this happened when Ferguson was around, he most certainly would have taken a stand against it.

Your manager failed to do that in any meaningful manner, and instead had a go at a television pundit.
 

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What the feck kind of post is this?

Slagging off Ole before he has even said something??

Ahahahahaha, Jesus.
He's been jumping back and forth over the fence whenever it's suited him. Calling out Glazers in 2005, then calling out the fans as soon as they employ him.

I hope he speaks out as a self-proclaimed fan of United and football, but I wouldn't bet on it. He's been happy watching the Glazers ruin our club while shutting disagreeing fans up, so no doubt he'd rather see football suffer the same fate than lose his job without a massive payout.
 

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He's been jumping back and forth over the fence whenever it's suited him. Calling out Glazers in 2005, then calling out the fans as soon as they employ him.

I hope he speaks out as a self-proclaimed fan of United and football, but I wouldn't bet on it. He's been happy watching the Glazers ruin our club while shutting disagreeing fans up, so no doubt he'd rather see football suffer the same fate than lose his job without a massive payout.
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Great day for football though