Except Fred has 2 goals and 4 assists in 44 games, where VdB has 10 goals and 11 assists in 37 games and about 4 years younger. Other than that, you might be right.
Jack Grealish / signs new 5 year contract
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
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Squad depth is lacking, that much should be obvious to anyone. I think his versatility as well as his ability to retain the ball would have been pretty useful yesterday. He may not be the most professional player in the league, but i would hope a move to United would help him in that regard. A bit of fine tuning, and he would be a great player.
You can't compare the dutch league to the premiership
Absolutely.
He would've been a great player to have yesterday. Someone who can receive the ball under pressure and keep possession. He can 180 turn away from pressing opposition, dribble past players, and could've baited them into fouling him - in which he's an expert - thus giving the team a much needed breather.
Still feel a move for him is very much on the cards after selling some players. Wish we could sign him & VDB after last night but got more important issues.
I could understand Ole having concerns about the off field stuff but think he can help sort him out with that side of things.
Hopefully the board can see just how threadbare we are creatively when Pogba & Bruno aren't on it.
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Just get him and Sancho in. Full stop. Need more quality in the squad. When others have off days wouldnt it be nice to have other options come in and try get the job done.
In Holland. But yeah, he has better stats. I think he wouldn't be enough of an upgrade to spend money on.
And in the UCL...
Grealish would be a good option in games like last night, hes press resistant, can hold onto the ball and win free kicks taking the pressure off.
Spot on. They’re the games he looks best in
We need games like last night to not only make sure the club is switched on but the fools on here thinking we don't need plenty more in attack. Its so obvious our options are bleak once Bruno/Pogba aren't on the field.
My last post of the day, Games like last night we needed him, We need creativity on the bench.
We need him, and he'd get plenty of game-time as long as he performs.
- We'd avoid all the "play the same team every week" stuff that leads to tiredness under this high-intensity system
- we'd get competition
- we'd have 2 good players for a given position instead of just 1
Easy, get it done Woodward.
- We'd avoid all the "play the same team every week" stuff that leads to tiredness under this high-intensity system
- we'd get competition
- we'd have 2 good players for a given position instead of just 1
Easy, get it done Woodward.
Agreed! I hope Woodward understand we need both Sancho and Grealish, and not one or the other.
I agree we need him but I think games like last night highlight our need for a controlling midfielder. We have zero control of the game without Pogba and Matic. Look at Tottenham and even the Norwich game were our midfield trio was Bruno Fred and Mctominay. We struggled to progress the ball forward or control the game even with Bruno there and I don't see how Grealish would change that.
Bruno and Grealish are AMs and their game is to deliver the final ball. Even if an AM like Grealish or Bruno is playing, we would never control the game without Matic and Pogba
Bruno and Grealish are AMs and their game is to deliver the final ball. Even if an AM like Grealish or Bruno is playing, we would never control the game without Matic and Pogba
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Grealish can play deeper, he can sit next to a DM. He's a versatile player hes not just a AM.
Doesn't look like a bad idea now. With or without Sancho.
Have to get both whatever it takes
The fact it takes 1 draw to suddenly change some peoples mind is hilarious 
Like to think that I said the same before the draw yesterdayThe fact it takes 1 draw to suddenly change some peoples mind is hilarious
we must get Jack first then Sancho second atfer last games yesterday
Jack Grealish is good at keeping the ball high up the pitch. In that sense he might have saved us yesterday. That being said, it would have felt like papering over the cracks. We need to improve our collective game.
That being said, that does not imply that we do not need a player who is good at keeping the ball higher up the pitch. For all Fernandes’ brilliance, that is not one of his qualities. Maybe Sancho would solve some of these issues aswell. To actually control a game like this I think a player like Thiago would be even better. But we still have to improve our build-up play.
He can't play in a double pivot behind the AM. I don't think he has ever played there
I feel like a DM that can control a game or progress the ball forward is more of a priority than Grealish but only if we get Sancho. Let's take yesterday's game and say we had Partey and Sancho. We could have rested Matic and played Partey who is perfect for an opponent like Southampton. Then instead of taking off Bruno for Mctominay we could have taken off Bruno for Sancho.
More ridiculous people didn't realise it was a desperate need before yesterdays result to be honest.The fact it takes 1 draw to suddenly change some peoples mind is hilarious
I'm pretty sure the Norwich game changed people's minds more than thisThe fact it takes 1 draw to suddenly change some peoples mind is hilarious
100% agree.
is there any actual substance to this player potentially being a target or just wistful hope?
Well best I can offer is James Cooper and Paul Hirst saying Utd are keen on him
I know he played a deeper role last season when they were in the championship. Not sure if it was a double pivot though, @FootballHQ ?
It was 4-3-3. And he played with 2 more defence-minded midfielders. He played more as an 8.
He absolutely can't play in double pivot and has never played there.
Very true but we still need to sign him for different creative midfield option
Of course we do. No question here.
If he's never played there how do you know he can't do it?
Good logic. Let's give him a bash at centre half and all.
That's a bit ridiculous.
ThisThe fact it takes 1 draw to suddenly change some peoples mind is hilarious
We need more quality. It's a no brainer. He will be a good addition. Just get the kid.
Grealish is excellent at collecting the ball from deep and building the play up. He's not someone who just relies on getting the ball in the final third and playing the killer pass and whatnot. He has it in him to control a game from deep as well as producing magic in the final third.
No, he played next to one defensive midfielder and one extremely attacking one in McGinn.
In possession, McGinn would often end up partnering Abraham up front such was his attacking intent, leaving Grealish sitting deep with a Hourihane or Whelan. It was only a 4-3-3 in the defensive phase, really.
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