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Grealish is good player as LW, AM, CM. He will play plenty of games, with our injury record he will play every week.
You underrate some players attitude. Grealish seems like a player who has faith in his ability and will fight for his place. No one is guaranteed a starting place, you have to earn the right.I guess its more about if he wants to come to be backup.
This goes doubly since most people's lineups seem to include dropping McTominay (a £50m talent if he were at Newcastle) and Fred (a £50m signing) to accommodate this £50m (more likely £65m) signing.We arent buying £50 million players to "rotate" them. We're buying them to play them in the same team as our best players
Fully aggree we should be stocking up quality options, as we've seen what happens when our eggs are in the Pogba basket. Mata, Jesse and Andres simply do not have the ability to touch his impact on the team and the team suffers due to it.@Judas
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Getting too much quality can never be a problem in our current state.
Agree. Even if we straight up told him that he will be a backup player (which we would never do), he still has so much self-belief that he no doubt will believe that he will be a starter after the first six months. And his abilities is just as good as his mentality.You underrate some players attitude. Grealish seems like a player who has faith in his ability and will fight for his place. No one is guaranteed a starting place, you have to earn the right.
This is why Pogba thinks he is bigger than the club.
We need players with this mentality as well. He knows Manutd are not spending £50m on him to sit on the bench all season, he will get minutes.Agree. Even if we straight up told him that he will be a backup player (which we would never do), he still has so much self-belief that he no doubt will believe that he will be a starter after the first six months. And his abilities is just as good as his mentality.
Because Pogba doesn’t react well to his status as a substitute and believes he should start? You’ve just tagged his name on to continue your crusade in every thread/post. What you said doesn’t even apply in the slightest.You underrate some players attitude. Grealish seems like a player who has faith in his ability and will fight for his place. No one is guaranteed a starting place, you have to earn the right.
This is why Pogba thinks he is bigger than the club.
Pogba does not take criticism well, we saw it under Jose as well. And also, Gomes had a double compound leg break and is back before Pogba who has had an "ankle" injury.Because Pogba doesn’t react well to his status as a substitute and believes he should start? You’ve just tagged his name on to continue your crusade in every thread/post. What you said doesn’t even apply in the slightest.
You are obviously not fine with it though. Every post you make suggests that you do not feel better is entitled to want to leave, if he indeed does.Pogba does not take criticism well, we saw it under Jose as well. And also, Gomes had a double compound leg break and is back before Pogba who has had an "ankle" injury.
How does it not apply? Grealish has shown to be a player with attitude, he speaks about his time about when he was young and criticised but now he wants to play and win trophies. He doesn't say, I should be playing for the best team, the VIlla team are not good enough for me.
In contrast that is what Pogba's agent who you might not believe would probably have been briefed by Pogba to say that.
Pogba might want to leave, I am fine with that, but he hasnt come out to say I want to fight and win trophies. We could win 2 trophies this season. Yet his agent and brother keep coming out with remarks that are unnecessary.
I know you love Pogba and he can do no wrong. This thread is about Grealish and I would take the money for Pogba even if its £90m and replace him with Grealish.You are obviously not fine with it though. Every post you make suggests that you do not feel better is entitled to want to leave, if he indeed does.
And those constantly referencing his agents words pick and choose the ones they want anyway. His words are often ambiguous and inconclusive. His most recent ones mentioned the possibility of discussing a new contract, and not for the first time either. Just let him recover from injury and get back first before we over speculate.
Your reference to Andre Gomes again adds to this implication that the player is not injured and instead pretending, which of course further adds to the evidence that you love to throw out sensationalist and unfounded rubbish.
Pogba has close to 50 league goals + assists in 99 games, that's goal or assist every other game as a midfielder. Don't think Grealish can offer that as part of midfield, he should play in attacking role to score and assist that many goals.He might not be as talented, but I can guarantee you he will offer the team alot more.
Yet we are no closer to wining the league or challenging in the CL. We cannot afford Sancho without selling Pogba. If we are going in for Sancho this summer, I'd sell Pogba and get Grealish.Pogba has close to 50 league goals + assists in 99 games, that's goal or assist every other game as a midfielder. Don't think Grealish can offer that as part of midfield, he should play in attacking role to score and assist that many goals.
So? That means we should be upgrading other positionsYet we are no closer to wining the league or challenging in the CL. We cannot afford Sancho without selling Pogba. If we are going in for Sancho this summer, I'd sell Pogba and get Grealish.
So? That means we should be upgrading other positions
Whether we have to sell Pogba to sign Sancho is different argument, this is about Grealish offering more than Pogba.
No he would be starting in the team but can cover the number 10 position as well if needs be.So he'd be a backup AM?
As if we'd spend £50 million on someone to be a backup when our first choice 11 might not get us top 4.
He'd be starting. So would Rashford, Bruno, Martial and Pogba. So someone would have to try and adapt to the right wing or we arent signing him
I think the only way we are going to sign Sancho if we manage to offload Sanchez in the summer and free up his wages. Hope to feck we manage to get rid of him this Summer but wouldn't be surprised if Sanchez was our new RW next season.So? That means we should be upgrading other positions
Whether we have to sell Pogba to sign Sancho is different argument, this is about Grealish offering more than Pogba.
As attacking player. Pogba topped all stats for ManUtd last season. That pic is posted more than 100 times so no need to post it again.Grealish at 24 playing for a Villa team in the relegation zone has 13 goals and assists in 25 games.
He has shown over the last few years those stats are improving.
Pogba at CM last year was being dispossessed at the same rate as wingers. That is a huge concern.
Grealish can keep the ball in a way that not many in the league can whilst gliding with it.
You can guarantee no such thing.I know you love Pogba and he can do no wrong. This thread is about Grealish and I would take the money for Pogba even if its £90m and replace him with Grealish.
He might not be as talented, but I can guarantee you he will offer the team alot more.
I know I love it.You can guarantee no such thing.
And yes, this thread is about Grealish. You just chose, as usual, to bring Pogba into it and have a pop at his supposed attitude problem. Jack Grealish has never been accused of having one of those of course.
Yep, City stockpiles talented players like Graelish and lets them fight it out for playing time. We should do the same.Grealish is good player as LW, AM, CM. He will play plenty of games, with our injury record he will play every week.
Would be a waste and probably a bad idea outside of specific tactics for parts of games. Could play in a 3 though.Yeah correct me if I'm wrong but I think he can play in a midfield two alongside say McTominay or Matic.
We have bigger priorities than strengthening our squad right now. We need to sort out who's playing week in week out.You do realise football is a squad game not just a strongest XI
PL appearances so far this season for our bench players
Pereira - 23
Lingard - 20
Mata - 17
PL games missed by players in our starting XI
Pogba - 21
Rashford - 6
McTominay- 9
Martial - 6
Grealish will get plenty of game time.
We do that. Then someone gets hurt. Then back to square one. Has literally been Oles entire reign. Might be worth having better options in the squad so hes not caught short every second weekWe have bigger priorities than strengthening our squad right now. We need to sort out who's playing week in week out.
The players sort that out, who plays week in, week out. If there's healthy competition, someone will come out on top more times than not and that's not including injuries.We have bigger priorities than strengthening our squad right now. We need to sort out who's playing week in week out.
We haven't signed a proper RW for a decade, we are short of a striker since Lukaku left. This is what needs to be addressed with a tight budget before anything else and I stand by that.We do that. Then someone gets hurt. Then back to square one. Has literally been Oles entire reign. Might be worth having better options in the squad so hes not caught short every second week
We are not in a position to stockpile. We have other areas to fix. I still want him due to his versatility, i'm just against that reasoning.Yep, City stockpiles talented players like Graelish and lets them fight it out for playing time. We should do the same.
Agreed, it's not that I don't like him as a player. By all means go for him after we've used our budget on priority positions.We are not in a position to stockpile. We have other areas to fix. I still want him due to his versatility, i'm just against that reasoning.
There seems to be a real dearth of wingers that play on the right. Grealish has all the attributes to fill the role. You never know a player's best position until you give them time to learn the role. Wingers used to be able to play on both sides. Even if he is live Silva or Pires, and comes inside to create ( like Ziyech or Di Maria) it would give us ample creativity.Agreed, it's not that I don't like him as a player. By all means go for him after we've used our budget on priority positions.
AWB had a back injury and Maguire had a hip flexor injury. Neither were long term thankfully. AWB was only out 2 weeks and Maguire about the same.We haven't signed a proper RW for a decade, we are short of a striker since Lukaku left. This is what needs to be addressed with a tight budget before anything else and I stand by that.
When have Maguire, Wan-Bissaka or Bruno (so far) ever been injured since signing them for the first XI? It's the usual suspects that are injured bar freak injuries from Rashford and Pogba. We're slowly getting there with signing the right calibre players for the right positions, I'd rather we addressed the RW position, then Striker, positions that we have really neglected (RW for years now) than to sign another midfielder. Maybe after that we go for him but it doesn't make sense to me to blow 50M+ of the budget on someone that isn't in a priority position, just screams our old transfer style under Woodward.
Yeah, this is sound logic. Otherwise we can end up unbalanced like napoli when they had lavezzi, cavani and hamsik (I think?). That would cause other levels of stress we don't need.Agreed, it's not that I don't like him as a player. By all means go for him after we've used our budget on priority positions.
I'm not in the camp of paying 50m+ to experiment on should be, could be good in a certain position. This is 2014 Woodward transfer style.There seems to be a real dearth of wingers that play on the right. Grealish has all the attributes to fill the role. You never know a player's best position until you give them time to learn the role. Wingers used to be able to play on both sides. Even if he is live Silva or Pires, and comes inside to create ( like Ziyech or Di Maria) it would give us ample creativity.
I agree, but there is a real scarcity of right wingers and we wouldn't want to find ourselves in a Arsenal-Nicholas Pepe situation. We cannot afford not to sign a right winger this summer either. I'm also not so sure on the availability of Sancho.I'm not in the camp of paying 50m+ to experiment on should be, could be good in a certain position. This is 2014 Woodward transfer style.
We’ve got the second highest number of clean sheets in Europe this seasonRashford----Martial-----Sancho
---------Grealish------Bruno
------------ Fred/Mctommo
Genuinely think that front 6 could be as good as Liverpool's. However our defence still isn't the greatest. We're conceding way too many goals.
We've played farmers mate. Not played a single decent side yet. Be fair.We’ve got the second highest number of clean sheets in Europe this season
We've conceded 2 goals in the last 8 games. We’ve also had clean sheets against City, Chelsea and Wolves (2) this calendar year alone.We've played farmers mate. Not played a single decent side yet. Be fair.
Half of them are against Partizan, Az Alkmar, Tranmere, Colchester and other teams with that "quality".We’ve got the second highest number of clean sheets in Europe this season