Thats a bold feeling
Jack Rodwell | Sold to City
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
I doubt it, nasri is very much a player who has strong starts to the season but then after a few months becomes invisible and does nothing. Can't see him changing all that much, he's never shown any balls either to change when the going gets tough.
Rodwell via ESPN - "I really think I can add something to the bench over here".
Mancini said: "Jack is a good player. He is young. It is the first time he is in a club that plays to win and it will be different for him. But in a couple of years I am sure he will be a top and stronger midfielder. He has good quality."
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1132871/rodwell-signs-for-man-city?cc=5901
WTF does he mean by playing for a club that plays to win? he's sounding like such a cnut lately.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1132871/rodwell-signs-for-man-city?cc=5901
WTF does he mean by playing for a club that plays to win? he's sounding like such a cnut lately.
funny but probably true...waste of talent that lad.£20 million is crazy money for a kid with Rodwells injury record.
Where have you got 20 million from????
Is he on the obligatory 200,000 a week as well?
18m for Rodwell is a silly price. But then I guess, sugar-daddy rules OK.
True. Holding down a place in the Spurs CM - and it's CM we're talking about - is much tougher.
By most accounts it is not 18 million either. Some saying 12 and one saying 15
Are you not going to put your hand in your pocket and help buy Adebayor?
In 8 years Rodwell will be playing well for a middling West Ham side and win Player of the Year, while every journalist praises him and wonder why he never made it at the highest level.
I don't need to .. it's a done deal.
Hes a good player. Shame it did not work out for him at City.
I always include potential add-ons in dealing with transfer fees - because they almost always end up getting paid.
Lets hope so as that will mean City have been successful with him.
If he steers clear of injury, i can see him being a turbo charged version of Barry in a few years. Barry is a decent all rounder but lacks pace. Rodwell has pretty much all the attributes barring fitness atm.
I think it could prove a shrewd buy for City in a few years.
Talksport were saying earlier that the fee is reportedly in the region of £20 million. Not the most reliably of sources I know.
IF he fulfills his potential, he'll be a beast of a player.
Gareth you get kudos for that mate as it made me laugh
The beeb has got it as 12 rising to 17m.
12m isn't too bad I suppose.
12m isn't too bad I suppose.
I'd of taken Rodwell at 12m. He is a talented kid, and a big lad - one would assume his injuries will eventually settle down.
Lord knows our midfield could use the bolstering more than theirs.
Lord knows our midfield could use the bolstering more than theirs.
I'm surprised it's as low as £12m tbh; the links with us a couple of years ago were well above that (tabloid nonsense I know, but still), and it's City that Everton were dealing with here. I'd expect them to get more for him than that from them.
Not really. Modric aside (and he's desperate to leave) no one else comes close to Carrick and Scholes. "much tougher" indeed.
The reason this place bangs on about our midfield is because we can't compete there against City, Chelsea and probably Arsenal. It doesn't suddenly mean the likes of Newcastle, Spurs and Liverpool suddenly are "much" better in CM than us.
He is overrated on here. I've watched a lot of his games and he's failed to impress me on many occasions. He does have the potential to be a good player but not as good as some think.
I think our midfield is fine against Chelsea and Arsenal, it's Real and Barca that we want to catch up to in midfield. City looked better than us in midfield last season but that is the first time that's happened in a long time so I wouldn't say we've been trying to catch up to them these last years.
£12 million is fairly sensible if true. Still, says something if we havent come in for him at that price.
He was quoted for what 30million a couple of years ago? Shows how far he has fallen during that time.
Was he though?
Was just caf posters coming up with imaginary fees they'd be happy to pay as far as I can remember.
The Times and The Guardian are both reporting that the fee starts at 15m. They are the two most reliable sports papers so it is safest to go with their fees.
He'll probably get just as many games at city. Then every wanker round here will be moaning about value. I find this transfer difficult to comprehend. I think Rodwell is a good player, he just never seems to get involved enough. I feel like I watch games and never learn anything about him
Either way the Spurs midfield isn't "Much better" that's for sure.
Who do we think will be the better player/signing between him and Allen?
Liverpool need Allen far more than City need Rodwell, so based on that probably Allen, for the moment at least. Rodwell is probably the more talented though, and a little younger, but less established.
But I think Rodgers will do a better job with Allen at Pool than Mancini will with Rodwell at City, so I'll go with Allen.
Allen.
For me Allen is the better player anyway - but Allen will play far more games too as he will be in the first team.
A silly move for Rodwell imo.
Rodwell for me. Not because he has better technical ability than Allen, but because he has more attributes and versatility to his game. If Rodwell stays fit he could become a really good all round midfielder, capable of playing a variety of different positions effectively.
Allen looks talented on the ball, but i have heard his off the ball work questioned by some pundits, and it remains to be seen whether he can make the step up.
Will either of them get the games they need to develop? Who knows? But you would have to think Allen has a bit less competition at Pool than Rodwell has at City.
Rodwell will be a slow burner I imagine.
Right now Barry has come off the back of probably his best season yet, he'll still be first choice this season alongside Toure and rightly so. Then there's still Milner and De Jong who can fill in where Rodwell wants to play.
However I think that will suit his development. Rodwell looks like Barry's long term replacement, ie a strong combatative midfielder with sound technical ability. So he has a good 2-3 seasons before he needs to be a 60 game a season man. So we've got a long time to mould him, and fortunately, we're not going to need to play him every week even when he could really do with a rest like Everton.
Allen will initially seem the better signing, but in 3 years when Rodgers is gone and he leaves for peanuts, Rodwell will probably be just establishing himself in our first team. And then a few years on again there'll be no doubt who's the better signing imo.
However Liverpool need their talent now, we can afford to wait. So each signing suits each club.
Right now Barry has come off the back of probably his best season yet, he'll still be first choice this season alongside Toure and rightly so. Then there's still Milner and De Jong who can fill in where Rodwell wants to play.
However I think that will suit his development. Rodwell looks like Barry's long term replacement, ie a strong combatative midfielder with sound technical ability. So he has a good 2-3 seasons before he needs to be a 60 game a season man. So we've got a long time to mould him, and fortunately, we're not going to need to play him every week even when he could really do with a rest like Everton.
Allen will initially seem the better signing, but in 3 years when Rodgers is gone and he leaves for peanuts, Rodwell will probably be just establishing himself in our first team. And then a few years on again there'll be no doubt who's the better signing imo.
However Liverpool need their talent now, we can afford to wait. So each signing suits each club.
Allen.
I think Rodwell is an entirely average player with good physique.
Not good enough for City. Or us.
The bolded part is simply not true. He has never played more than 17 matches at Everton, and it's not all because of injuries. He's been benched a fair share of the times as well.
Other than that I agree with much of what you're saying. He's probably signed as a long term successor to Gareth Barry, and he should be capable of taking up the mantle. Not sure if he will though