Jadon Sancho | £72.9M fee agreed

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It absolutely is. Good posts get the respect they deserve but when many posters who support teams in the Bundesliga show those strange posting traits and that too usually aimed against United /its fans, then they will get called out accordingly. In that regard, instead of bemoaning the caf changing you should probably look at those posting traits which are really odd. Btw, you dont really know what the caf used to be, it's a very open and welcoming place nowadays, go back 15 years and the response would be much harsher.
If you think stuff like "Sancho is better at LW than RW", "Dortmund won't accept a bid after the deadline" "the BVB won't go down with the price since they don't want to sell" are mean spirited posts against United or it's fans, you're correct. German posters in here deal with much more aggressive stuff all the time because the close midned tribal section of United fans on this board project their frustration on others and somehow blame them and German clubs for the fact that Sancho didn't end up at United last season.

As you see in the reactions in here, no member of the "BDL" has any antipathy towards United, nobody of "us" is mad that you signed him. If anything, I'll be rooting for you now since you've signed one of my favourite players, same way I rooted for Chelsea after they bought Havertz. So it would be nice now that the transfer is done to relax a little and stop that antagonizing, at least until the next transfer saga regarding a Bundesliga player is on.
 

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That's a good deal for Utd. The only straw I can grab at is what are the agent fees and his salary (I heard 350k+ per week)?
 

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85m euro is the fixed fee as stated by Dortmund in the contract they've submitted so there are no add-ons. the only thing it didn't include was the fee paid to the agent.

it's a 5 yr installment which means United have done brilliantly to get a TOP TOP player without paying over the odds.

It also means there is still significant money available to solidify the CB position and CM position as they focus in one two targets who combined would be the fee agree for Sancho.

This could be a brilliant transfer summer.
 

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That's a good deal for Utd. The only straw I can grab at is what are the agent fees and his salary (I heard 350k+ per week)?
haven't see any mention this morning of agent fees but it's a 5 yr deal on 250k p/w
 

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share the quotes:smirk:
I'm sorry but there's too many. :lol:

The big disappointment comes from Dortmund telling everyone that they wouldn't back down from their demands and in reality they bend over backwards for United.
Lots of comments along the lines of 'everyone but United', they have truly grown to hate us. :devil:
 

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share the quotes:smirk:
Well, I'm a Dortmund fan and it's quite obviously a great deal for United. There's absolutely no way it will be payed over 5 years in equal instalments though. I'm guessing one of the reasons for the relatively low fee is the fact that the majority will be payed within the first year. In Dortmund's ad-hoc announcement they talked of a positive impact of 56 million for the upcoming fiscal year which would make sense. Anyway, even if it were 85 million up front it's still a great deal for United.
 
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I’m a bit confused why Dortmund are so salty about this.

When they sign these teenage prospects, isn’t the whole idea that they develop them and sell them? I don’t think they’ve ever been fooled into thinking these are long term transfers.

They get a few years of a great player and then a huge profit. It’s a good deal for them.

Obviously Haaland and Bellingham will leave within the next 3 years too. It’s just the understanding
 

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I’m a bit confused why Dortmund are so salty about this.

When they sign these teenage prospects, isn’t the whole idea that they develop them and sell them? I don’t think they’ve ever been fooled into thinking these are long term transfers.

They get a few years of a great player and then a huge profit. It’s a good deal for them.

Obviously Haaland and Bellingham will leave within the next 3 years too. It’s just the understanding
A feeder club in denial.
 

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I’m a bit confused why Dortmund are so salty about this.

When they sign these teenage prospects, isn’t the whole idea that they develop them and sell them? I don’t think they’ve ever been fooled into thinking these are long term transfers.

They get a few years of a great player and then a huge profit. It’s a good deal for them.

Obviously Haaland and Bellingham will leave within the next 3 years too. It’s just the understanding
Because they were giving it large about fleecing United for 120m and they've been brought back to reality by the fact that Dortmund can and will negotiate the price.

I wonder if they'd be more or less salty if he were sold for €50m next summer.
 

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Well, I'm a Dortmund fan and it's quite obviously a great deal for United. There's absolutely no way it will be payed over 5 years in equal instalments though. I'm guessing one of the reasons for the relatively low fee is the fact that the majority will be payed within the first year. In Dortmund's ad-hoc announcement they talked of a positive impact of 56 million for the upcoming fiscal year which would make sense. Anyway, even if it were 85 million up front it's still a great deal for United.
That is because they book the revenue in this fiscal year and show it as receivables from transfer. In actual they will get this money over a number of years. At least that is what a normal business will do.
 

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Gotta love me some good old sweeping generalisations. It is not about the individual content of the posts anymore, not even about the people themselves that write it. Now just the affiliation to a league or club is enough to be put in the same pot as if they are some kind of hivemind and be beaten over the head with cheap and lazy statements.

Maybe I should not be suprised as this is so widespread in internet forums, but I still can´t be helped to feel annoyed as the Caf used to be more welcoming to the views of opposing supporter. It kinda set it apart from other football boards as other perspectives and insights were viewed as enriching and informative to discussions. Banter used to be smarter and more fun than just throwing the same tired stereotypes around. I had some of my best football discussions on here (some of them even about German football with other Germans), but nowadays there is just less and less reason to actually participate if the reaction is just "Bundesliga defense force lul".
There is a certain section of the United fan-base that only knows what Sky and the tabloids feed them, and anything else in football is “hipster”. However, there is also very clearly a section of German posters here that fit into the stereotype they are usually accused of. There are a couple of German posters that I never considered a part of that, as you alluded to yourself in your post; I don’t consider you or @Swarm a part of that group for example. Your posts are consistently more balanced and of a higher quality than the most in that “group”. So please do feel free to continue providing your insight, myself and other posters do appreciate it.
 

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85m euro is the fixed fee as stated by Dortmund in the contract they've submitted so there are no add-ons. the only thing it didn't include was the fee paid to the agent.

it's a 5 yr installment which means United have done brilliantly to get a TOP TOP player without paying over the odds.

It also means there is still significant money available to solidify the CB position and CM position as they focus in one two targets who combined would be the fee agree for Sancho.

This could be a brilliant transfer summer.

Where does the 5 year instalment come from? The german media ist talking about a straight forward pay of the comple 85 million euro.
 

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That is because they book the revenue in this fiscal year and show it as receivables from transfer. In actual they will get this money over a number of years. At least that is what a normal business will do.
You might be right, I have no idea about these kind of things. However, from past deals where detailed information is available, the payment structure almost always seems to be a big chunk at the beginning and smaller instalments later on.
 

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If you think stuff like "Sancho is better at LW than RW", "Dortmund won't accept a bid after the deadline" "the BVB won't go down with the price since they don't want to sell" are mean spirited posts against United or it's fans, you're correct. German posters in here deal with much more aggressive stuff all the time because the close midned tribal section of United fans on this board project their frustration on others and somehow blame them and German clubs for the fact that Sancho didn't end up at United last season.

As you see in the reactions in here, no member of the "BDL" has any antipathy towards United, nobody of "us" is mad that you signed him. If anything, I'll be rooting for you now since you've signed one of my favourite players, same way I rooted for Chelsea after they bought Havertz. So it would be nice now that the transfer is done to relax a little and stop that antagonizing, at least until the next transfer saga regarding a Bundesliga player is on.
Ah, the high moral ground. Let's just pretend gutter level posting like the below didn't happen. If you come to a Manchester United forum looking to antagonise then United fans will obviously respond. The sensible posts tend not to get a bad, ones like the below though...

Can't wait for the rivers of salt once Sancho underperformes and the Caf starts cursing out Dortmund for fleecing them yet again.
 

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I’m a bit confused why Dortmund are so salty about this.

When they sign these teenage prospects, isn’t the whole idea that they develop them and sell them? I don’t think they’ve ever been fooled into thinking these are long term transfers.

They get a few years of a great player and then a huge profit. It’s a good deal for them.

Obviously Haaland and Bellingham will leave within the next 3 years too. It’s just the understanding
Where's the saltiness though? It's not salty to be sad that a great player leaves for a lower fee than expected, it's just normal.
 

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Ah, the high moral ground. Let's just pretend gutter level posting like the below didn't happen. If you come to a Manchester United forum looking to antagonise then United fans will obviously respond. The sensible posts tend not to get a bad, ones like the below though...
Thats the only post of its kind so far. If that's enough to generalize, then you can also cherrypick idiotic posts by United fans to stereotype the entire United fanbase. This shit about German posters really is just a lazy stereotype and by now very boring, and it's annoying how it infests Bundesliga-related discussions across the forum.
 

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Thats the only post of its kind so far. If that's enough to generalize, then you can also cherrypick idiotic posts by United fans to stereotype the entire United fanbase. This shit about German posters really is just a lazy stereotype and by now very boring, and it's annoying how it infests Bundesliga-related discussions across the forum.
This year, yes. I think the general standard of posts from the Bundesliga lads was way more povoking and just generally shit last year. Maybe the same applies for us muppets in here, but it's a giddy United board after all.

Of course I don't mean all posts. A lot of quality and sensible posts were also found last year.
 

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This year, yes. I think the general standard of posts from the Bundesliga lads was way more povoking and just generally shit last year. Maybe the same applies for us muppets in here, but it's a giddy United board after all.

Of course I don't mean all posts. A lot of quality and sensible posts were also found last year.
Although that goes back to the same point about lots of United posters being really bullish about this, and getting responses in kind.

Anyway, I should get out of this, it'll take up too much time. I just really dislike the antagonistic crap. People should be celebrating Sancho's signing positively, isn't that where the real fun is, being giddy about next season?
 

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Ah, the high moral ground. Let's just pretend gutter level posting like the below didn't happen. If you come to a Manchester United forum looking to antagonise then United fans will obviously respond. The sensible posts tend not to get a bad, ones like the below though...
That was a cheap provocation and deserves to be called out. But as @Cheimoon stated, I think there were very few posts of this kind.
 

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I am happy that sancho signed, but I am a bit sad for Dortmund, tbh. They are resigned to losing talented players every year before they can build a team to challenge Bayern.

We joke about them, but they never have a chance. I guess that’s just the nature of football.

Hopefully sancho lives up to the hype.
 

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Thats the only post of its kind so far. If that's enough to generalize, then you can also cherrypick idiotic posts by United fans to stereotype the entire United fanbase. This shit about German posters really is just a lazy stereotype and by now very boring, and it's annoying how it infests Bundesliga-related discussions across the forum.
Hear, hear. It's the most depressing trend of the Caf these days: anything German-related, and the comedians come swarming out with the "Bundesliga Defence League" posts which stopped being funny some time around last summer.
 

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Thats the only post of its kind so far. If that's enough to generalize, then you can also cherrypick idiotic posts by United fans to stereotype the entire United fanbase. This shit about German posters really is just a lazy stereotype and by now very boring, and it's annoying how it infests Bundesliga-related discussions across the forum.
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Well, I'm a Dortmund fan and it's quite obviously a great deal for United. There's absolutely no way it will be payed over 5 years in equal instalments though. I'm guessing one of the reasons for the relatively low fee is the fact that the majority will be payed within the first year. In Dortmund's ad-hoc announcement they talked of a positive impact of 56 million for the upcoming fiscal year which would make sense. Anyway, even if it were 85 million up front it's still a great deal for United.
don't let anyone get salty on either side as it's a good deal for both parties considering Sancho helped keep you in the CL and that he was ready to move on. I'm sure the Yellow Wall will be back soon and creating one of the best atmospheres in all of europe.
 
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