Get out of it! If he’d publicly announced he’s staying it would maybe make sense but this is like us getting players last year to come out one by one and say how happy everyone is that Pogba is staying after we said we wouldn’t sell to Madrid. It’s absolutely pathetic. If Sancho is definitely happy about staying why haven’t you got him on camera saying it? Zorc has spoken on his behalf, the media leaks have spoken on his behalf and now you’ve even got your squad to speak on his behalf. Why not Sancho himself? He’s being put into a corner where he has to request to leave so he gets painted as the bad guy.
Jadon Sancho| Staying at Dortmund for now
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That's fair, but I think it's a bit of both.
Rarely do our wide man get into positions that they can cut it back for a tap in like Dortmund do, look at some of Haalands goals he literally walks them into the net.
I do agree that Martial and Rashford especially need to switch on much faster and be more aware of getting into better positions for a tap in, but I guess that comes from the experience of rarely ever actually getting a good ball in.
When we do cross it's often a lofty back post cross or it's just smashes across the face of goal hoping for the best.
Pure cringe from Dortmund and the constant Sancho love in. Seems to me he does want to leave and they're trying to show him how much they want to keep him in an effort to convince him to stay and move on from the saga.
This is not different to Dembele et al in that they have a player who wants to leave, to come back to England. The transfer would not have got this far in negotiations if the club didn't have firm assurance the player is willing. Eriksen was a no go because he didn't want to come. The club do not pursue a target so aggressively unless he wants to firmly come.
Far from being over, this is entering phase 2. It's up to Sancho personally to make another decision and then pressurise who he needs to pressurise. There is nothing concrete to say Sancho doesn't want the transfer.
This is not different to Dembele et al in that they have a player who wants to leave, to come back to England. The transfer would not have got this far in negotiations if the club didn't have firm assurance the player is willing. Eriksen was a no go because he didn't want to come. The club do not pursue a target so aggressively unless he wants to firmly come.
Far from being over, this is entering phase 2. It's up to Sancho personally to make another decision and then pressurise who he needs to pressurise. There is nothing concrete to say Sancho doesn't want the transfer.
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Dortmund finished 13 points behind Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga. They finished 3 points ahead of Leipzig and 4 ahead of Mönchengladbach. Who are Borussia looking to sign to make up that 13 point difference next season? Bayern Munich will not sit still either.
Devil's advocate: what happens to Sancho next season if Borussia Dortmund finish third or even fourth?
All these statements from Dortmund players is to try and stop Sancho requesting a transfer. It's desperate stuff 
Bayern have been the best side, most consistent by far, in Europe this season and will only improve as they have some of the best young talent in Europe in their team. I don't think they'll be in danger of not winning the league anytime soon.
This is quite funny considering most people are calling the Bayern team one of the best in the world, they have improved their squad with Sane so, I expect a one horse title race.
I used to like Dortmund as a club.. this might leave a sour taste.
I just wish they would've shut up about their rivals last month though instead of belittling them
. The 'point to prove' attitude we've seen coming from that rival since has become quite problematic in our pursuit of Sancho who we've had in our sights since Ole took over. They suddenly feel compelled to defend their status/pride and identity as a club now instead of acting in accordance to their usual business model of being content with selling their top talent for massive profit a few years after signing them.How's Dortmund's fax machine these days? Might go on a bit long and we shouldn't wait to make sure it's tip top.
Honestly, if United had no intention of paying the fee I imagine by now we'd have moved on. This will drag on but we'll secure this deal. Also, why the feck are Dortmund so noisy? If they didn't give a rats ass they would just keep quiet and assume no deal. But no, all this Zorc blah blah. It's posturing. This is a selling club after all.
Honestly, if United had no intention of paying the fee I imagine by now we'd have moved on. This will drag on but we'll secure this deal. Also, why the feck are Dortmund so noisy? If they didn't give a rats ass they would just keep quiet and assume no deal. But no, all this Zorc blah blah. It's posturing. This is a selling club after all.
I was just about to say this, 3 players have come out and spoken about him staying. Weird.All these statements from Dortmund players is to try and stop Sancho requesting a transfer. It's desperate stuff
It's everyone but Sancho himself saying he is staying. We're still in this. There's a long time left.
Witsel, Hummels, Can, and Haaland now.
Dortmund are trying too hard with their tweets and player 'interviews' on Sancho.It's preseason, players are asked about all sort of questions. They talk about him as they are asked about the player, they don't speak about Sancho randomly.All these statements from Dortmund players is to try and stop Sancho requesting a transfer. It's desperate stuff
Agreed. I don't accept the idea that Utd can't afford to buy him at the Dortmund asking price. The only reason Utd are reluctant to pay that much is because they want to use some money in other positions as well.
There was talk of us wanting Sancho and Grealish and a centre back. Those 3 alone if purchased for a price WE wanted to pay, it would still cost £150m+. So we've clearly got the funds to actually meet whatever price Dortmund are asking for and in whatever structure they request. It's just down to whether Utd feel like they can afford to have Sancho as our only signing this window. For me, absolutely yes. We will be a massive threat if Sancho is our only signing. The other "problem" areas are not as big a problem as the significane and impact Sancho would have.
Bringing Sancho into this team will completely transform how teams approach playing us. Without doubt Sancho would be our biggest threat. The last few games of the season we have struggled with teams who have decided to press high against us. If Sancho was in the side alongside Martial and Rashford, it would be football suicide to give us that much space to play with in behind.
Most teams would double up on Sancho because of his threat. The amount of space and time this would create for the likes of Bruno, Rashford and Martial can not be underestimated. It will appear as if these other players have stepped up another level. But it will mainly be down to the fact teams will be mostly focused on stopping our biggest threat.
It's strange that all interviews suddenly appear 1 day after the press statement.
I think we need to start looking at this through the eyes of the Dortmund exec, and not as United fans. I previously thought this was pure brinkmanship but what is becoming clear is that Dortmund would be happy to keep to keep their man, just like OGS is happy to hold onto Pogba.
The mis-reporting of 'years left' on Sancho's contract changes everything. Let's put it another way, it seems as though Dortmund would be financially comfortable to retain Sancho for next season. This will now require some Sancho to agitate and United to find a way to stump up the cash
Right. I mean they'll probably be asked like "So now that the club has said Sancho is staying how do you feel?"
Let's move on and sign someone else if this is not going to happen.
Won't mind Dembele with an option to buy. His top level is something else and had more genuine pace and tickery than Sancho himself.
Can't be held ransome by one player and club.
The problem though is that we haven't made a bid.
Won't mind Dembele with an option to buy. His top level is something else and had more genuine pace and tickery than Sancho himself.
Can't be held ransome by one player and club.
The problem though is that we haven't made a bid.
That's been my main worry over us potentially dropping out of talks here. The only links have been the likes of Coman and Dembele who for all their clear talent, have been quite injury prone in their young careers. The lack of a like for like alternative puts us in a bind when it comes to trying to really improve our options up front. Greenwood has been a revelation but is still just 18 and we're still an injury away from having a massive drop in quality up front.
Why Sancho has not spoken yet is a fair question, but as for his team mates: like every year Dortmund's press following has made the trip to Switzerland, like every year every player is meeting the press, like every year they ask about current topics: this year that is Sancho.
They started appearing when Dortmund began doing press meeting as part of their pre-season camp.
I know you guys are disappointed and angry at Dortmund at the moment but let's not get silly here.
These are all responses to questions from the local news about Sancho. You would see the same at United in a similar situation.
Because whatever bid we'd make at this point wouldn't satisfy Dortmund. That's why we're dealing with their agents instead. The agents will negotiate on their behalf and try to find a good deal for them. Once we agree on a deal, we'll submit a formal bid.
Talk is cheap. I don't give two shits about which Dortmund player comes out and says what about any of their players and teammates. Every player has their price. We've seen it countless times before where a player says one minute that he loves a club, and then the next minute he is talking about how he "always dreamed of playing for this club as a little boy". It's happened a million times before and will always happen.
The day that @Judas loses faith is the day the transfer is well and truly dead.
When was the last time we signed our big player of the summer early on?
Maguire was a week before the season started
Pogba a week before
Van Persie about 3 days before the first game
Yorke was about 3/4 days before
Lukaku was 10th July, but more the exception to the rule, and arguably not in this category, as Pogba came the same summer, and as above was late on.
Maguire was a week before the season started
Pogba a week before
Van Persie about 3 days before the first game
Yorke was about 3/4 days before
Lukaku was 10th July, but more the exception to the rule, and arguably not in this category, as Pogba came the same summer, and as above was late on.
If the board doesn't sanction the funds, what difference would a DoF make in getting an individual player? The DoF sets the transfer strategy, he won't necessarily structure the deal or sanction the funds.
If all of this stuff from Dortmund is true - they want 120m, by august 10th or no deal, then cool, we should absolutely walk away from this. JS is a quality player, but asking that money in this climate is ridiculous. At most we should be spending 80-100m on this deal. As much as I would love to see him at United, there are other players out there that could improve us for next year.
i agree with this. leave Dortmund off and just take their word for it he’s not for sale. Don’t hang around only focusing on one deal. If sancho is genuinely unhappy then that’s still the best thing to do, leave him stew and hope they hit some rocky patch. Come back to it next year and if he really wants to come he’ll actually push against them. In the meantime we go get another really good player and hopefully aren’t as desperate for his services this time next year... it also sends out a message that we won’t be bent over when it comes to big deals.
Dembele or Chiesa this summer please.
Which is problematic as he loves having his prostate milked and is overly fastidious with ear buds.
Is Woodward really United's chief negotiator? You'd think a CEO would hire a specialist to take care of that...? (Sorry if this has been discussed a million times before, but I am confused by all the comments about Woodward's direct involvement in every detail of this saga.)
BVB would never agree with your assessment of them though, and they would think it's quite insulting. It's a top-of-the-pile kind of perspective that essentially declares all other clubs fairly pointless. ('You won't win anything anyway, get over it.') Even if BVB won't be able to challenge next year (which is too early to say), they'll want to build rather then slide down, and show other players that this is their focus. I can't think of anything that improves for BVB by selling Sancho (as long as they don't urgently need the money), so of course they put up their best fight.
I think all the people who are convinced that this is just posturing by Dortmund are going to end up very disappointed come the end of the window. I really want Sancho. But, i'm of the opinion that Dortmund won't sell for less than 100m+ and we won't pay that. They are under no pressure to sell at all. From their point of view they don't need to sell him for less than 100mil since he just signed a new contract and if they wait another year then Covid's impact should lessen the longer they wait then the market/world will return to something more normal. Not only that but Sancho's value will only increase with his performances.
If Sancho was staying and that was that, they would have drawn a line under it, got back to business and refuse to talk about it anymore.
The fact they are doing everything they can to keep the story in the media and paint a story of how committed they are to keeping him speaks volumes.
Do you see United talking about Pogba every five minutes?
The fact they are doing everything they can to keep the story in the media and paint a story of how committed they are to keeping him speaks volumes.
Do you see United talking about Pogba every five minutes?
Pogba was the year before Lukaku. I think we signed Lindelof and Matic that year with Matic being the late signing.
I think if we sign him at all it’ll be soon as Dortmund won’t sell late in the window and they’re trying to push the agenda - Sancho will either request a transfer or says he’s staying this week I reckon.
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If I could, I would 'like' this post.
Only the U19s left now to speak on how much Jadon staying means to them.
Depends on what you mean by big player, is it a big fee or big name player?
Before preseason started
2014-15 -
Shaw - Record breaking deal for a teenager/FB at that time
Herrera - 30 million was a big fee back then.
2015-16
Schneiderlin, Bastian, Depay all before preseason
2016-17
Mkhi, Zlatan, Bailly all before preseason. Pogba was on vacation till first week of August, so when we signed him didn't matter much
2017-18
Lukaku, Lindelof all before preseason
2018-19
Fred, Dalot all before preseason
2019-20
AWB before preseason.
We have done plenty of big names or big money signings before preseason started.
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