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Jadon Sancho| Staying at Dortmund for now
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
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Average club? Are you joking?Elite club
They've literally been us for good few years now, average
By brand, results, fans, wealth in the past 10 years they are in the top 10 teams in the world.. Please be serious, Dortmund is everything but an average club
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I get your point. But its not a forum for insulting or belittling the football club.
Theres is some inferiority complex amongst some posters on here who think football only started when Messi came onto the scene.
Liverpool have won more champions league trophies than Barcelona but some people will think they are bigger than Liverpool. I think it's the other way round.
I just wish United fans on here can express more pride in Manchester United Football Club because its a fact that we are the most supported football club in the world, we have a great history and the club has managed to come through some challenging times since the Busby era.
The fact that we have not won alot since Fergie left does not diminish our standing as a giant of a football club.
I will admit I am the first person who is very critical of the Glazers, Woodward, the coaching and player performances from Pogba Rashford, Lindelof, Maguire etc, but it doesn't make me look down on the club. This club and its history did not start 8 years ago. People need to be more positive about the club. We will be winning things soon.
We are Manchester United and we will never die.
Hardly outrageous to say that we wouldn't be his preferred option if it were between us, Chelsea or Liverpool to choose from next season.
Its a bluff to make us think he's not suitable for us. So we pressure the board to buy someone else and they keep the generational talent.
Genuinely no idea
I want to be optimistic, but there's no real rumours about this guy or anyone, so frustrating!
I’ll always back any utd player. But if Dan James is a massive part of our future as you say, then we have a seriously bleak future.
To be fair Woodward et al are doing a mighty fine job of belittling the club all by themselves
I take your point and I think most older fans respect the history, tradition (id live for us to go back to 442 with traditional wingers for example) and it’s prestige. However none of these things seem to count in terms of attracting and keeping players anymore. We need to become the best in our own league again. That will take investment, planning and coaching. We seem to lack in all of those so rightly people can criticize the club and it’s owners.
By any reasonable metric (shirts sold, number of followers in Instagram/Twitter/Facebook, commercial revenue) we lag behind Madrid/Barca, so consequently, we don’t have a bigger or more famous brand than them.
And on trophies (especially the biggest one), Madrid has won as many as EPL combined.
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Another offer? When was the first offer made?
I think anyone expecting him to be miles better than our current front 3 if we sign him will be disappointed but which players are particularly good against teams that sit deep? Every player is better with time and space. Packed defences are hard to break down.
Another offer? Did we even make one in the first place?
Who the fecks he?
I would say that city is also important. Better to live in a city you like.
I also argue that a manager you like is part of the decision, cause working is much more fun with a boss you think is great.
I don’t think that the shirt number is important (unless you have a big brand like CR7), and no one except fans cares about history (and in any case, all big clubs except City, PSG and Chelsea have a very rich history, as rich if not richer than us).
We were attractive to players cause we were winning a lot and had an awesome manager that increased the chances for trophies. We never had the location/climate point but that got compensated by the other attributes. Right now, all we have to offer is money, sad as it is. If we become good again, we will become more attractive (more attractive than Liverpool cause we can offer more money and as attractive as City, possibly slightly more cause of his history but anyway who cares about that).
As long as Barca/Madrid do good on pitch, they will be much more attractive than us, unless global warming changes the climate.
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I don’t trust him, it says he’s in Stockport. Must be a City fan.
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Sancho will be a Devill soon, its matter of days now..
There is only 1 problem, not so big.. Chance Dortmund is going to sell him is 0.00001%
There is only 1 problem, not so big.. Chance Dortmund is going to sell him is 0.00001%
You really used one of your daily post allowances to post that gem?!Sancho will be a Devill soon, its matter of days now..
There is only 1 problem, not so big.. Chance Dortmund is going to sell him is 0.00001%
Players going to Liverpool, City, Bayern etc and not being touched by Spains big two kind of disproves this. The appeal of playing in the most watched league in the world evens up wanting to play in Spain for the big 2 for non latin players. Being the most watched league in the world starts to hold appeal for each generation of player that passes. Its the same logic as being a Madrid fan watching Ronaldo growing up. If youre growing up watching the EPL then it holds the same logic.
What actual best players in the world even plays in Spain these days? And who are they strongly linked to that are coming in to change that?
Its ok saying cycles but its not as if theyre turning all of these world class players down. As soon as the world record fees and 500k a week wages dried up, the propaganda machine about dreams of Madrid etc stardom dried up as well.
Players these days are a lot more career conscious than players of yesteryear. Actual appeal of clubs as in choosing Madrid over Liverpool has narrowed greatly. Its a bit of an outdated view to have.
When did we make our first offer ?
I know. Farcical stuff whatever way you look at it.
By that logic we don't need Sancho..we're miles behind
Hey don’t knock it till you try it. I wouldn’t rule anything out at this stage
Frustrated? Who is Frustrated? We delayed things and we are now Frustrated??
There is under half a day left this week. So something needs to happen very soon.
We are frustrated it isn't happening. We tried, covid, Dortmund etc
I can imagine Ed in his office being upset Dortmund didnt just let him sign with us on a free. That was the extent of his negotiating ability.
Hopefully this plays out similarly to the Berba deal.
I don’t ever want to be mistaken for you with posts like that.Sancho will be a Devill soon, its matter of days now..
There is only 1 problem, not so big.. Chance Dortmund is going to sell him is 0.00001%
You don't even know what the structure of the club, why are you talking about something you don't understand?
I don't understand quantum mechanics so do you know what? I don't talk about it and act like I do. It's shocking how many of our supposed fans know so little about the club they claim to support. If you're going to sit and make adhominem attacks instead of contributing anything valuable, at least direct them at the right people.
Pretty sure he was just joking. Man, this transfer (or lack thereof) has people on edge.
We may have been able to, even should have, done things differently but people need to stop acting like this is a simple transaction. I don't know the ins and outs but one of the most expensive transfers of all time is a tricky thing to do in jormla circumstances but the world is a little upside down right now as well. I imagine it's incredibly frustrating from the inside. It's easy for us to be armchair experts.
Maybe but even if he was, there are 100 other comments that aren't. It's just tiresome, the same tired old insults just get posted without actually adding anything.
Highly likely we will take it to the very last day to get our desired price, and are even well prepared to lose out, as we can still sign Sarr or Brooks the next day. This makes our negotiation position so much stronger.
BVB know all of this and will feel real pressure as the offer lands and upto the deadline. Let’s see how truthful BVB were in their statements in August!
I've been a long time lurker on these forums but this is one of my vary rare posts... I'm sure this has been mentioned before but tomorrow is the shareholders Q4 earnings call. With united being a publicly listed company it is more difficult for them to conduct business early in the transfer window if they have had a difficult year financially.
Q4 earnings are huge for investors and if we make a loss of over £100m (which is widely expected for the year) then we will be in breach of terms of one of the many loans we hold. This could potentially cause a big stock sell off and damage the clubs finances even further. I've always seen this as the main sticking point for the Sancho deal. It's a massive sum of money and would be much better executed after Q4 earnings when the club has 4 months to absorb the cost slightly before the first earnings call of next year.
There was never going to be a big deal before the 28th September but if earnings and the markets react positively tomorrow then I'd fully expect transfer activity to pick back up. It's frustrating on a football perspective as the squad has huge gaps in it but from a business perspective it's just how things have to be. We're not bank rolled by oil or gas money so have to take care of investor relations and club finances before football decisions can be made.
Q4 earnings are huge for investors and if we make a loss of over £100m (which is widely expected for the year) then we will be in breach of terms of one of the many loans we hold. This could potentially cause a big stock sell off and damage the clubs finances even further. I've always seen this as the main sticking point for the Sancho deal. It's a massive sum of money and would be much better executed after Q4 earnings when the club has 4 months to absorb the cost slightly before the first earnings call of next year.
There was never going to be a big deal before the 28th September but if earnings and the markets react positively tomorrow then I'd fully expect transfer activity to pick back up. It's frustrating on a football perspective as the squad has huge gaps in it but from a business perspective it's just how things have to be. We're not bank rolled by oil or gas money so have to take care of investor relations and club finances before football decisions can be made.
Yeah but you could argue that describes most threads on the forum. Best to stick the thread on ignore if you're not looking to see such posts.
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