Jadon Sancho | Official: Loaned to Villa

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What I find what is how you can have a deal with an obligation to buy that doesn't involve the player agreeing terms when that deal is struck.

When Manchester United are involved in a transfer, anything is possible.
 
Hopefully Tuchel isn't prompting him to stay in Europe to try earn a place in the world cup.

He's not been to the last two international tournaments and it's been four years since he was last capped. People need to stop thinking he gives a single shit about playing for England.
 
He's not been to the last two international tournaments and it's been four years since he was last capped. People need to stop thinking he gives a single shit about playing for England.
He doesn’t really want to play full stop, he’ll be retired soon enough.
 
Thats stupid of us to only include £5m as cancellation fees. Should have at least been 50% so we make a bit more money atleast.
I doubt that Chelsea would have agreed to that. Realistically Utd did as well as they could under the circumstances, they got a big part of his wages off the books with the possibility of getting rid of him completely. You would have to think that both clubs had an inkling that Sancho wasn't going to walk away from his extremely lucrative contract so a fee of 5 mil was agreed.
 
He's not been to the last two international tournaments and it's been four years since he was last capped. People need to stop thinking he gives a single shit about playing for England.
I think it's a bit unfair on him and surely he would have gone to Saudi Arabia already if he was prioritising money over anything and everything. The reports are suggesting he wants to remain in Europe. There was once a player there and it is not inconceivable that Tuchel feels he could play a part for them if he starts performing again. If this is the case, it is very difficult for us because we know it's extremely unlikely.
 
Are you even for real. It's a deal with option isn't it. Why paint it something else. I understand football pal,I understand wages.i understand that it's hard to move players. We moved on like 30players last summer and you help with the deals we got for awb,scotty and mason. So what's your ideal sancho solution this summer, and what do u actually think happens with sancho this summer?

We sold 8 players last summer... where you get 30 from?

My ideal solution is to get rid of him and I think we will.
 
We won't get any real fee for him. His stock has hit the bottom, he earns way too much money and he's out of contract at the end of next season. Maybe a loan and then he's off for free.
 
Jadon Mandela still habe to take a very long walk to Freedom from United
 
He doesn’t really want to play full stop, he’ll be retired soon enough.
Could have just left it at that.

I've already predicted he'll be retired before he turns 30.

I think it's a bit unfair on him and surely he would have gone to Saudi Arabia already if he was prioritising money over anything and everything. The reports are suggesting he wants to remain in Europe. There was once a player there and it is not inconceivable that Tuchel feels he could play a part for them if he starts performing again. If this is the case, it is very difficult for us because we know it's extremely unlikely.

Saudi clubs don't want him because they're not actually after cast offs. They want players with at least a bit of professional pride, of which Sancho has none.
 
He doesn’t really want to play full stop, he’ll be retired soon enough.

I wouldn’t be massively surprised if he retired as soon as his contract expires, if he can’t get a wage to his taste for a big team.

I just can’t picture him rocking up somewhere like Fiorentina/Roma for £30-£50k per week, which is probably his actual level.
 
The lure of playing with Cunha and Mbweno in a revamped Man United too much to resist perhaps.

The lure of watching them from the reserve team bench perhaps.
 
I think it's a bit unfair on him and surely he would have gone to Saudi Arabia already if he was prioritising money over anything and everything. The reports are suggesting he wants to remain in Europe. There was once a player there and it is not inconceivable that Tuchel feels he could play a part for them if he starts performing again. If this is the case, it is very difficult for us because we know it's extremely unlikely.
He's absolutely prioritizing money. If he wasn't he'd be playing for Chelsea, which is definitely the best European club that would come in for him.

Maybe some German club might think he's worth it based on his performances with Dortmund (first time around), but he won't sign for them because they can't meet his wage demands.

His best hope is Saudi or US come in for him and pay him the wages he wants, but I don't think even they'd want him.
 
What I find what is how you can have a deal with an obligation to buy that doesn't involve the player agreeing terms when that deal is struck.
The terminology around the deal was just semantics.

It was always 5m loan with a 25m buy option.
 
We won't get any real fee for him. His stock has hit the bottom, he earns way too much money and he's out of contract at the end of next season. Maybe a loan and then he's off for free.
The best we can hope for is that a loan fee and part wages from a club abroad will cover his full wage cost.

I am sure him and his agent believe that they can get better at the end of next season from a club with a sign-on bonus and wages then they were getting from Chelsea; plus he gets the full whack from United next season. He wants maximum rewards for minimum effort.

fecking waster.
 
I wouldn’t be massively surprised if he retired as soon as his contract expires, if he can’t get a wage to his taste for a big team.

I just can’t picture him rocking up somewhere like Fiorentina/Roma for £30-£50k per week, which is probably his actual level.
I can’t see him playing for that type of money though, he’s too lazy. Maybe if he has a partner and she lived there he might give it a go.
 
I wonder if we'll threaten to trigger the +1 in his contract as a way of getting a permanent move for him.
 
I wonder if we'll threaten to trigger the +1 in his contract as a way of getting a permanent move for him.
He would happily take that and get paid for the next two seasons for doing noting. I hope that kind of stupidity left the club with Woodie.
 
I wonder if we'll threaten to trigger the +1 in his contract as a way of getting a permanent move for him.

Why in the feck would we want to be stuck with him even longer?
 
If he doesn't move somewhere in the summer, just isolate him, no locker in the dressing room, train on your own away from the rest of the squad. Spend the rest of the season in isolation.
No. Give him a locker and lock him inside.
 
He had clearly lost his hunger the day he would prefer to train with the youth team over making a simple apology for something he was in the wrong for. He was content to play PlayStation and wait it out rather than actually prove his ability.
 
If I was Chelsea I would wait for the last week of the transfer window and offer exactly the same "loan with obligation to buy".
 
in a surprise to absolutely no one chelsea don't want our garbage

I'm amazed they even thought it was a good idea to begin with

but i suppose we helped them structure the deal to make the risk very low
 
If I was Chelsea I would wait for the last week of the transfer window and offer exactly the same "loan with obligation to buy".

I can see that will be the fate of Rashford, Antony and Sancho. There isnt really an incentive for clubs to buy these players when they can just hold out and loan them by paying part of their wages plus a loan fee.
 
Depressing, if not unexpected.

Given his current level, what team other than Chelsea did he imagine were going to move for him? So I guess it's about the money.

Bridges burned here and unless the Saudis come for him, imagine it'll be a loan and he'll be released in 12 months and we'll get nothing back for him.

sigh
 
Fully expect us to make the best of a lousy situation and accept a loan to Dortmund with them covering 30/40% of his wages and no loan fee. Probably can expect more salt in the wound when he has his 1 good game for them and the media erupts into a rousing chorus of "it is not the players, it is United".
 
Isn't this still OK for us? We would only sell for £25 million anyway I guess and this way we get an extra £5 million back on top?

Surely a Saudi club will take him
 
Isn't this still OK for us? We would only sell for £25 million anyway I guess and this way we get an extra £5 million back on top?

Surely a Saudi club will take him
Who’s going to pay 25 million for him? Then match his wages?
 
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