Jadon Sancho | Official: Loaned to Villa

[Andycoleno9]

No way that Juve or Napoli can pay higher wages than what Chelsea offered.

It is a myth. Juve, Milan, Inter and Napoli will and can pay big wages and fees but they do it only if they think that it is worth paying.

 

[huyn]

It is a myth. Juve, Milan, Inter and Napoli will and can pay big wages and fees but they do it only if they think that it is worth paying.

It's not a myth. Milan's highest paid player is Leao at €120k/week, Napoli's Lukaku at €140k, Juve outside of Vlahovic have Bremer and Luiz at €180k. Only Inter can pay those wages but they only have 2 players making the same or more than Sancho. Sancho is on £250k/week initially maybe £200k if he has a CL clause which is likely.

Sure any of those clubs could make an exception and pay bigger wages to one single player like Juve did with Vlahovic (which backfired badly) but why would they do that for Sancho.

 

[pascell]

Maybe Chelsea didn't offer enough 'freeedom'.

You mean fr££dom?

 

[giorno]

There are no tax breaks for footballers anymore in Italy and tax rate at that level is over 40%

Only players that benefited from the old tax breaks(like Lukaku, Leao, Thuram) can still take advantage of those provided they don't work more than 1 year out of Italy, or something along those lines

Nobody in Italy can afford his salary. Or better yet, nobody is going to be willing to pay him that much. The good news is that he's in the final year of his contract. The bad news is that if you even manage to get a transfer fee, it will probably be just enough to cover the difference in wages for the season

And Di Marzio is gospel when it comes to Italian clubs and players

 

[Oldyella]

It's the hope that kills you.

 

[Golden Nugget]

Sancho is a wonderful player, he’ll do wonders at Juventus and will look like a bargain there.

Just like Rashford, Antony, Garnacho, Onana or whoever else we’re trying to sell. All wonderful players and worth much more than what we’re asking

 

[Cathy Ferguson]

Of course they can. It's not that Chelsea couldn't afford his wages, they just thought he's not worth the money.

Few clubs think that Sancho is worth 100k, so why would Sancho take a huge paycut this season and say goodbye to a signing on fee next summer? No club will pay 20m for Sancho and Sancho won't take a paycut of 30-60%. But maybe Juve see things differently...

 

[hellhunter]

Few clubs think that Sancho is worth 100k, so why would Sancho take a huge paycut this season and say goodbye to a signing on fee next summer? No club will pay 20m for Sancho and Sancho won't take a paycut of 30-60%. But maybe Juve see things differently...

I don't really disagree, but Juve pay Vlahovic like £300k/w

 

[Moriarty]

Few clubs think that Sancho is worth 100k, so why would Sancho take a huge paycut this season and say goodbye to a signing on fee next summer? No club will pay 20m for Sancho and Sancho won't take a paycut of 30-60%. But maybe Juve see things differently...

Professional pride and the chance to play for a big club like Juve might be motivating factors?

 

[OverratedOpinion]

Professional pride and the chance to play for a big club like Juve might be motivating factors?

I think you're forgetting who you are talking about.

 

[Escobar]

There are no tax breaks for footballers anymore in Italy and tax rate at that level is over 40%

Only players that benefited from the old tax breaks(like Lukaku, Leao, Thuram) can still take advantage of those provided they don't work more than 1 year out of Italy, or something along those lines

Nobody in Italy can afford his salary. Or better yet, nobody is going to be willing to pay him that much. The good news is that he's in the final year of his contract. The bad news is that if you even manage to get a transfer fee, it will probably be just enough to cover the difference in wages for the season

And Di Marzio is gospel when it comes to Italian clubs and players

Maybe not for footballers but they changed the tax regime for foreigners in general to make it very attractive to move there.
Anyhow, let's just hope we get a decent enough bid and kick him out the door as quickly as possible

 

[romufc]

Few clubs think that Sancho is worth 100k, so why would Sancho take a huge paycut this season and say goodbye to a signing on fee next summer? No club will pay 20m for Sancho and Sancho won't take a paycut of 30-60%. But maybe Juve see things differently...

Why should a player take a pay cut to go play football? As a football, you have pride that you are a top player, especially someone who has shown promise in the past.

In most cases, a footballers dream is to play at a world cup, there is a world cup next year, so you would be motivated to be playing first team football in order to put yourself in a position to be selected.

That is what I expect from a normal footballer but Sancho.. I agree, he is not football motivated and would prefer to sit on the money and decide where to go next season.

 

[Vidooq]

He couldn't care less if he is at the World Cup or not. Clearly, his priority lays with him making as much money as possible.

 

[bosskeano]

if reports are true that Juve offered 25m euros for him....i would say that is more than an acceptable offer

 

[Moriarty]

I think you're forgetting who you are talking about.

Just my little joke.

 

[Paul778]

He couldn't care less if he is at the World Cup or not. Clearly, his priority lays with him making as much money as possible.

TBH I don't believe he cares a rats arse about the money, or he'd be actually working hard and knuckling down.

He has people to make sure he can maximise the money he receives without actually inconveniencing himself too much.

 

[Cathy Ferguson]

I don't really disagree, but Juve pay Vlahovic like £300k/w

They won't repeat the same mistake with Sancho, just like we won't.

 

[giorno]

Maybe not for footballers but they changed the tax regime for foreigners in general to make it very attractive to move there.

And then they abolished it, with the caveat that people who'd managed to take advantage of it still could under certain conditions

 

[HackeyC]

The world doesn't need more countries pandering to millionaires with ludicrous tax breaks not afforded to locals.

 

[Irwin99]

Few clubs think that Sancho is worth 100k, so why would Sancho take a huge paycut this season and say goodbye to a signing on fee next summer? No club will pay 20m for Sancho and Sancho won't take a paycut of 30-60%. But maybe Juve see things differently...

Clutching at straws here and I don’t have a lot of faith that he really cares but it is World Cup year. You would think he’d really want to concentrate on being good this year.

Rashford is a more reasonable bet as I’m pretty sure he wants to be involved at the World Cup.

 

[jeff gurr]

Clutching at straws here and I don’t have a lot of faith that he really cares but it is World Cup year. You would think he’d really want to concentrate on being good this year.

Rashford is a more reasonable bet as I’m pretty sure he wants to be involved at the World Cup.

I don't think Sancho has much of a chance playing for England again. He last played in October of 21& really hasn't done anything to justify a return. If he couldn't impress playing for Chelsea when Maresca gave him lots of opportunity then it aint happening.

 

[finneh]

Few clubs think that Sancho is worth 100k, so why would Sancho take a huge paycut this season and say goodbye to a signing on fee next summer? No club will pay 20m for Sancho and Sancho won't take a paycut of 30-60%. But maybe Juve see things differently...

The only reason he'd take a huge pay cut would be that a 5 year contract on £150k per week (£37.5m) could be more lucrative in the long term than a potential scenario where he rots in the reserves for a year (£12m), upon which time he'd likely be unfit, overweight and would have had only a handful of good games in 5 years. You could see in that scenario a few clubs sniffing around at £100k on a 2 year deal, but him ending up in the wilderness at 28 (or even less if he had a serious injury).

He might on the other hand believe that a great loan next year would put him in a position of commanding a £10m signing on bonus and £180k per week... But it would require a) United being open to a loan (I think this should be ruled out), b) him actually having a great year (unlikely) and c) gambling that he won't have a long term injury next year whereby he ends up at Fenebache in 2027 on £60k per week.

If I were his agent I'd be pushing for the long term contract this year over the potential risk (if United took the aforementioned hard stance). I'd bet Dele Alli wishes he'd signed a 6 year Spurs contract back in 2019!

 

[George The Best]

The only reason he'd take a huge pay cut would be that a 5 year contract on £150k per week (£37.5m) could be more lucrative in the long term than a potential scenario where he rots in the reserves for a year (£12m), upon which time he'd likely be unfit, overweight and would have had only a handful of good games in 5 years. You could see in that scenario a few clubs sniffing around at £100k on a 2 year deal, but him ending up in the wilderness at 28 (or even less if he had a serious injury).

He might on the other hand believe that a great loan next year would put him in a position of commanding a £10m signing on bonus and £180k per week... But it would require a) United being open to a loan (I think this should be ruled out), b) him actually having a great year (unlikely) and c) gambling that he won't have a long term injury next year whereby he ends up at Fenebache in 2027 on £60k per week.

If I were his agent I'd be pushing for the long term contract this year over the potential risk (if United took the aforementioned hard stance). I'd bet Dele Alli wishes he'd signed a 6 year Spurs contract back in 2019!

Can’t see him getting offered £10m sign on and £180k per week anywhere. That’s his dilemma, or more likely his ego talking. Probably end up at Watford or somewhere similar

 

[Salfordlad70]

I wish this fecker would just feck off. I’m sick of his idiot face and his feckin attitude. Can we just sell him for feckin parts?

 

[TheNewEra]

Responsible for the Antony transfer, shit attitude, the freedom tweet, refusing to apologise.

I hope the clown leaves as soon as possible, worst transfer in our history.

 

[Bondi77]

Funny thing is that he would probably look good in the Italian league as it would be most suited to his skillset.
If he asks for stupid money it would show how motivated he is career wise.

 

[Battery]

The only reason he'd take a huge pay cut would be that a 5 year contract on £150k per week (£37.5m) could be more lucrative in the long term than a potential scenario where he rots in the reserves for a year (£12m), upon which time he'd likely be unfit, overweight and would have had only a handful of good games in 5 years. You could see in that scenario a few clubs sniffing around at £100k on a 2 year deal, but him ending up in the wilderness at 28 (or even less if he had a serious injury).

He might on the other hand believe that a great loan next year would put him in a position of commanding a £10m signing on bonus and £180k per week... But it would require a) United being open to a loan (I think this should be ruled out), b) him actually having a great year (unlikely) and c) gambling that he won't have a long term injury next year whereby he ends up at Fenebache in 2027 on £60k per week.

If I were his agent I'd be pushing for the long term contract this year over the potential risk (if United took the aforementioned hard stance). I'd bet Dele Alli wishes he'd signed a 6 year Spurs contract back in 2019!

Dele situation was somewhat different given his mental state, if you have not seen his interview with Gary Neville you should watch it, that guy went though hell and is still processing it.

Sancho is just a ****, unless he comes out with something that we don't know about.

 

[TheNewEra]

So happy to hear Di Marzio, if we can get rid of Sancho i think we can get rid of Rashford, Garna and Antony.

Sancho feels the hardest to remove.

 

[KiD MoYeS]

So happy to hear Di Marzio, if we can get rid of Sancho i think we can get rid of Rashford, Garna and Antony.

Sancho feels the hardest to remove.

I think Rashford is the most difficult to move on, he has had nothing but loan offers and is on massive wages. Antony has interest and Garnacho should be an attractive option to clubs.

 

[Ekeke]

Responsible for the Antony transfer, shit attitude, the freedom tweet, refusing to apologise.

I hope the clown leaves as soon as possible, worst transfer in our history.

How are you blaming him for Antony?

 

[beck7]

I think Rashford is the most difficult to move on, he has had nothing but loan offers and is on massive wages. Antony has interest and Garnacho should be an attractive option to clubs.

This summer will show whether he has any ambition to play next year’s World Cup or not.

Knowing him so far, he should just go to Saudi and focus on helping kids. I am not being sarcastic here.

 

[TheNewEra]

How are you blaming him for Antony?

As I put in the Antony thread, when Ten Hag arrived (the first summer) in the first week or so, Sancho said to Ten Hag:

“After Erik Ten Hag’s second game at United, away to Brentford, Sancho told Ten Hag that United had bought the wrong player [him] because he prefers to play on the left, rather than the right. This is why Ten Hag decided to sign Antony in the remaining days of the transfer market”

This comes from Fabrizio Romano after the fall out.

If Sancho wasn't such a self serving player, and was a team player, we wouldn't have had to go and get a right winger (Antony in this case).

We basically had go to and sign someone, and we had Murtough in charge. Also it's come out fairly recently from an ex united member that it was the first summer the new 'backroom' was together and that meant we showed real inexperience which is why we got players like Antony in the first place.

 

[Ekeke]

As I put in the Antony thread, when Ten Hag arrived (the first summer) in the first week or so, Sancho said to Ten Hag:

This comes from Fabrizio Romano after the fall out.

If Sancho wasn't such a self serving player, and was a team player, we wouldn't have had to go and get a right winger (Antony in this case).

We basically had go to and sign someone, and we had Murtough in charge. Also it's come out fairly recently from an ex united member that it was the first summer the new 'backroom' was together and that meant we showed real inexperience which is why we got players like Antony in the first place.

So he didnt suggest him, had nothing to do with negotiations and had nothing to do with ETH's previous working relationship with ETH and had nothing to do with it, got it

 

[finneh]

Can’t see him getting offered £10m sign on and £180k per week anywhere. That’s his dilemma, or more likely his ego talking. Probably end up at Watford or somewhere similar

And I can't see him having a great loan elsewhere; from experience though footballers tend to have more than a healthy ego.

As his agent I'd be advising a 5 year £150k a week deal at Chelsea (especially if United veto another loan). As a narcissist I'd know that the poor environment, managers, teammates and tactics were the only things holding me back from repeating my 2019 form and that an eight figure signing on bonuses and 5 year contract on £8-9m+ a year was only several months away.

I predicted 3 years ago that he'd be at Galatasaray in 4 years and I stand by that.

 

[TheNewEra]

So he didnt suggest him, had nothing to do with negotiations and had nothing to do with ETH's previous working relationship with ETH and had nothing to do with it, got it

I'm not saying Sancho went and signed Antony.

I am saying by Sancho telling Ten Hag that he won't play on the right, that we had to go back into the market that summer.

Let's not forget United chasing Sancho was purely because we had no right side for years.

If Sancho played on the right we wouldn't have bought Antony, and likewise after we bought Antony we had no funds to go for a striker. It's a lot to do with an inexperienced senior management team, and a lot to do with a player who just refused to play in certain positions.

 

[Ekeke]

I'm not saying Sancho went and signed Antony.

I am saying by Sancho telling Ten Hag that he won't play on the right, that we had to go back into the market that summer.

Let's not forget United chasing Sancho was purely because we had no right side for years.

If Sancho played on the right we wouldn't have bought Antony, and likewise after we bought Antony we had no funds to go for a striker. It's a lot to do with an inexperienced senior management team, and a lot to do with a player who just refused to play in certain positions.

I think its more an argument for - if its true - Sancho's poor attitude

He had nothing to do with the actual transfer

 

[TheNewEra]

I think its more an argument for - if its true - Sancho's poor attitude

He had nothing to do with the actual transfer

We had no right wingers at all in the club, our first choice says "I'm not playing there", are we supposed to just go into the season with no player that we can play there?

Through him refusing to play there, we had to sign a player, meaning he had a lot to do with the transfer.

It's good either way to get Rashford, Sancho out of the club, I'll feel optimistic if Sancho goes, I feel the rest of our players can be shipped out with some effort. Sancho I always felt would just stay at home playing FIFA and collecting his wages

 

[finneh]

Dele situation was somewhat different given his mental state, if you have not seen his interview with Gary Neville you should watch it, that guy went though hell and is still processing it.

Sancho is just a ****, unless he comes out with something that we don't know about.

The reason behind their respective declines is immaterial; whether they / their agent opt for long term stability in the form of a 5-6 year contract, covering them financially through any potential trauma, physical decline or emotional distress, or whether they gamble on a larger payout down the line was the only comparison.

It was a terrible example for a different reason though given he signed a 6 year contract in 2018 and could have sat on it until 2024!

 

[bosskeano]

surprised napoli is in for sancho when they were strongly linked with garnacho last summer...i would have thought they'd come back in for him as the priority to help replace losing Kvaratskhelia

 

[joedirt87]

surprised napoli is in for sancho when they were strongly linked with garnacho last summer...i would have thought they'd come back in for him as the priority to help replace losing Kvaratskhelia

Conte loves bringing in a ton of players every year so I could see this being an alternative option he likes that fits a role and lets him make more transfers.