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Jadon Sancho | Official: Loaned to Villa
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Accept, accept, no backsies just get him gone.
A deal like that would have to be accepted knowing there's no pay off imo.
Exactly. In this tug-of-war negotiation between Sancho and Juventus, United plays the role of the rope. Which is what made the 5M penalty fee to Chelsea such a bad business in the first place.
He's the shit that won't flush. Biggest waste of money, ever.
I read at the end of the season that €17m Euros is a PSR break-even figure as far as selling Sancho is concerned, so it looks like Juve are giving United that carrot the bastards.
It's $0 (really, less than that once you account for wages) as I've explained on the last page
Fair enough. In which case, sell sell.
We will get them up to 20 surely including the payoff to Sancho. He's going to be really good for them, the shit.
I don’t think I agree, and happy to be corrected by any reference to PSR accounting.
I’m applying my working knowledge of Capital Allowances and preparing comps in line with IFRS.
Sancho signed a 5+1 deal, so I don’t even think United would impair his remaining net book value because even at 30 June 2026 they could make the decision to retain him.
I was a big advocate of him before and when we signed him. He did make me look like a fool among my circle who support United.
F**k this guy. If I was Berrada, I would just throw the 4 millions check to his face personally and say you are shite mate and everyone in England agrees.
F**k this guy. If I was Berrada, I would just throw the 4 millions check to his face personally and say you are shite mate and everyone in England agrees.
Good grief. This is a complete misinterpretation of PSR.
Sancho is in the last year of his contract. Every single penny of his remaining amortization will hit our books this year if we don't sell him. That means every single penny we can sell him for is a PSR profit from our perspective.
I wish all this "pure profit" / "PSR loss", from people who can't grasp the rules would just end. It's leading to super warped interpretations of everything.
Seems like you're the one misinterpreting. The point is, we don't want to incur any expense for him this year. It's better to breakeven on his current value, than incur a loss on his current value.
Selling him for a snickers bar this summer is not PSR profit. It's a big loss, just slightly less of a loss than letting him go for free next summer.
We should sell him this summer for the highest amount we can possibly get, and should not let him leave for free. That doesn't mean we have to snap their hands off on a low ball offer, if we think we can squeeze more out of them.
1) is the offer peanuts? Yep
2) should we just take it? Absolutely
He is just that horrible presence.
2) should we just take it? Absolutely
He is just that horrible presence.
if we can gete 17m for him, you take the offer. We aren't going to get more from anyone else and we get his wages off the bill.
that 8m offer is a joke if someone really reported that from a proper source
that 8m offer is a joke if someone really reported that from a proper source
Not that “slightly” once you factor the wages. As I understand it:
Current book value : 15M
Hypothesis 1: he stays.
Cost 15M in amortization + 13 M in wages. (Total cost 28 M)
Hypothesis 2: he is sold for 10 M
Incurred loss 5 M (15-10). (Total cost 5 M).
H2 represent a relative profit of 23 M (compared to H1)…. That’s 23 M more that we can use on something else as per PSR rules.
Snap juves hand off, tell Sancho he isn't getting paid off due to his attitude and call it job done imo
I hate this PSR talk all the time. As it stands, we owe Sancho c. £15m in wages. We immediately stand to save this money if we sell him, even if for a free. Any additional fee we can get on top of that is a bonus.
He is finished in England and we need to sell him for whatever it takes to get his wage of our books before everybody cottons on to how ineffective he is.
I’d take any cash offer to send him packing.
I’d take any cash offer to send him packing.
Agreed. Just get rid
Same rationale for Rashford though he’s a far worse scenario. Just get rid, supplement if need be. It’s inevitably going to be better than having these deadweights around the club
I know that many just want to break even for the PSR for Sancho. But remember, we also need money to fund new signing.
As it stands, we only have money for Cunha and Mbeumo about 120m. Hence, we actually need to make profits from Sancho, Antony, Rashford, Garnacho and Malacia in order for us to be able to buy new players.
As it stands, we only have money for Cunha and Mbeumo about 120m. Hence, we actually need to make profits from Sancho, Antony, Rashford, Garnacho and Malacia in order for us to be able to buy new players.
We've also got bits coming in for Elanga and Carreras.
With Sancho, it really is beggars can't be choosers - i'd be taking any permanent signing offer that doesn't involve us forking out.
Let’s tell Juve to pay the full 15m fee up front and it’s a deal. Basically instead of add ons, just give us the full 15.
This is a guy that could not be fecked playing for us, went to a premier league rival and he eventually did the same thing again with the extra humiliation that Chelsea paid us to take him back. He showed nothing for either team and made himself look noncompetitive in top tier league football. I'd take literally any transfer fee if it got the wages off the books. This is the type of guy to be hanging around the club dribbling piss into people's ears. Get rid at any price. 10 million an no addon's would be fine with me if it got the deal done quicker.
Deal. We just fine Sancho the rest of his wages and don't pay. The whole world can see why we have fined him. Next.
As if they would have made an acceptanle offer. Bunch of cnuts but yeah, squeeze a few millions more out of them and sell, without any pay off
I don't think Juve will walk away for 5m EUR. Lets do 15m EUR + 5m bonus. Pay him the 5M. And have him off.
Net to Utd will be 15m in fees (assume Sancho payoff is handled with the Chelsea money) with 5m Bonus + 15m salary saved. It moves the needle by around 30m.
Net to Utd will be 15m in fees (assume Sancho payoff is handled with the Chelsea money) with 5m Bonus + 15m salary saved. It moves the needle by around 30m.
He's such a loathsome little rat I couldn't care less how much he's sold for, just as long as he's sold
I’m no PSR expert and happy to be corrected. isn’t our issue available cash and we have some wiggle room on PSR e.g. we could afford to make a loss on him for a relatively quick sale
If that the case I would sell asap, another dud off the books. More importantly get his wages off the books to keep PSR compliant. If he goes onto rip up Serie A and realise his potential then more power to him
If that the case I would sell asap, another dud off the books. More importantly get his wages off the books to keep PSR compliant. If he goes onto rip up Serie A and realise his potential then more power to him
If we have him with say 15m in the books this amount would be amortized over the final 12 months as expenses. Also, his salary are expenses so he will hit our financials with approximately 2m - 2.5m per month.
If we can get rid for 0 this will hit our PL/financials immediately with minus 15m (selling price minus not amortized purchase fee).
While in the first place this is a negative effect it will somewhat make our future financials a bit better.
There's probably a misquotation somewhere as this doesn't make any sense. He wants 180-200 a week, making a move difficult but Chelsea offered 180-200 a week but he rejected it? The only reasonable logic I can think of is the 180-200 he's looking for is base and Chelsea's offer reached that based on appearance / individual and club performance.
Definitely want rid but that’s an absolutely horrendous offer. People can mention the wages all they want, you see absolute shitters going for double that amount. It’s absolutely mental.
I'm not suprised by Juve. They are right to fk us over because we don't have a leg to stand on. Sancho in the other hand has fkd us right over. First going to Chelsea and running down his contract and now still demanding a huge salary from buyers and a sell on fee from us. And then he still gets to play for a top club on huge wages when he doesn't deserve it.
I've not nice wishing a footballer fails but I hope he crashes and burns at Juve and gets sold to some random sht club. Accrington Stanley
I've not nice wishing a footballer fails but I hope he crashes and burns at Juve and gets sold to some random sht club. Accrington Stanley
This. Just get rid of him. We're gonna lose money no matter what. Just want him and his attitude gone.
We signed him for 73 million 4 years ago on a 5 year contract. So his book value for PSR would be a little less than 15 million pounds.No that’s the fee we need to cover his PSR, so United can’t sell him for less.
So last minute loan deal it is
Hopefully the club cam negotiate a better fee, but nonetheless, he has to be sold this summer.
It would appear the rules are interpreted in two absolutely different ways, including those who are claiming to be football finance experts.
I’ve not seen one credible report which suggests anything other than amortised value would be acceptable for the purposes of ensuring compliance and not worsening the position. Also build in the fact United surely cant just fully impair his value with a +1 contract he has.
Given Sir Jim’s comment about cutting people off if necessary, it makes little sense to keep Sancho if there is no impact on the PSR position as you state, whilst continuing to service his incredible wages.
That offer is lower than his book value. We would book a PSR loss if we sell at that price.
He will go down in history as the most disliked player we ever wasted money on….
Yeah, I don’t think PSR is as big a concern at the moment as cash.
Even if we take a hit on the PSR, we save on the amortization and the wages. It balances out over the season.
But we should still negotiate to get best price.
Even if we take a hit on the PSR, we save on the amortization and the wages. It balances out over the season.
But we should still negotiate to get best price.
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