He has a year left on his deal and Chelsea already opted to cover his £5m loan fee instead of paying £20m to sign him permanently, so though it looks ridiculous at first glance €10m up front + €5m in future bonuses is probably just about right.
Jadon Sancho | Official: Loaned to Villa
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No, just compensate part of the amortization of the relevant year. The book value is reduced yearly by the predetermined amortization…
Guys, it's even worse than lowballing 
: United basically rejected any swap (Luiz, Vlahovic, Weah, Gonzalez) and we are now trying to get him at books value (even lower that that, if you consider he also wants a "goodbye sum" from you).
: United basically rejected any swap (Luiz, Vlahovic, Weah, Gonzalez) and we are now trying to get him at books value (even lower that that, if you consider he also wants a "goodbye sum" from you). That £5m from Chelsea will go towards the severance package for Sancho. €10m + €5m is a terrible offer, his book value is £14/15m, we'd be making a loss.
I would've taken a swap. Luiz or Vlahovic would absolutely get games for usGuys, it's even worse than lowballing
Exactly. They paid more for Lloyd fecking Kelly
All this PSR and book value none sense has made me hate transfer windows. So it's either we sell and make a loss apparently. Or we keep him on 300k a week wages for a year and make him the highest paid mascot in history but we won't make a loss.
Such an insulting offer but as others have said it's no surprise given the conditions. What a nightmare of a signing Sancho turned out to be. Our worst ever signing? He spent more time on PlayStation than on the pitch.
Hopefully we can drive it a bit higher but the fact is we have little leverage. Are Juve going to buy that we're willing to keep him unless they offer a 'fair' value?
Given his average at best performances when he has even played, and high wages, it's a stupidly hard job to sell him for anything meaningful. I'm sure some clubs think he may be better suited to their league and that they can rehabilitate him as a player, just because some clubs always seem to think they can bag a bargain that will pay out for them. Juve are probably only interested because they think they can pay a negligible fee and he might work out as a decent player.
No one is going to want to commit anything meaningful. Not saying the club shouldn't push for the best price possible, but i really expect nothing close to the £25m obligation Chelsea had.
No one is going to want to commit anything meaningful. Not saying the club shouldn't push for the best price possible, but i really expect nothing close to the £25m obligation Chelsea had.
I doubt it. We could bluff it but all logic and reason points towards us getting rid for peanuts. We may be able to get a few more million but we will sell, and we will be right to, for a tiny sum.
Hes firmly in the unsellable category for me so any kind of fee would be great and a bonus. I fully expected a loan spell with us covering wages. Just need to flush the turd and move on.
We either take what juventus are offering, or we pay him to feck off. It's not surprising they've offered half a twix, they only offer a full twix most of the time anyway
Don't you just hate Juventus? They just got David for free and can't even offer 20m for Sancho. Will start to actively root against them in Serie A even though I don't even follow the league.
Not sure what people expected from this tbh. Are people not aware that everyone knows that he's on 300k, available for free next year and that we're deperate as he won't even get a minute of game time for us ?
We literally just had a team pay us 5 million to stop them from signing him for 25 million.
How much did you think we'd get for him ?
We literally just had a team pay us 5 million to stop them from signing him for 25 million.
How much did you think we'd get for him ?
But you will be getting rid of his wages.
They would probably pay more if he was 30. Italian clubs seem to value experience above potential.
We're not making a loss
Why are people annoyed with Juve? Why would anybody pay serious money for Sancho with a year left on his deal, and it being years since he was a serious football player who has 0 chance of player for us again? We should be happy they're even willing to pay 10+5m for him as it stands
They weren't going to offer 40m when they could get him for like 10. They're tight as anything but this time they hold all the cards. It annoys me far more when you get Italian clubs lowballing you for actual good players or ones that have resale value.
Stuff like loans with options to buy. They need to feck off with that and spend some money for a change - Inter have just won serie A and made 2 CL finals in 3 years. We know you've got it!
15+5 and you have a deal Juve.
For Sancho, we cant expect more than that
For Sancho, we cant expect more than that
And we would be losing that book value next summer anyway. Also real money matters. And even if you only consider accounting measures, at least look how it affects in total for the rest of his contract, this and next summer. And taking into account we would be getting rid of his wages, we would not be making a loss.
It rather obviously is better to sell him for something than nothing.
If he sell him for about 10m and save about 10m in wages, we will be about 20m better off. No matter how it breaks down between this and next summer. There is no valid reason to be looking at only this summer in isolation.
It's 8+4. We need 14.6 to cover PSR. But we'd probably need to pay him to feck off anyway, and this way we get 8m to get Mbeumo done
Covering PSR is close to irrelevant. The PSR amount doesn't change, just the timing when it's written off. Combined with his wages being gone and is being more cash than PSR limited, it doesn't matter
The PSR is a tad irrelevant I agree, its just how it would hamper us further down the line.
Plus we need the cash.
Absolutely, but surely in that context any money is better than no money and leaving on a free next year
I agree that its better than paying his wages for a year.
I still think we'll squeeze more out of them.
1 year left on his contract, plus the £5m from Chelsea. Could be worse. Take it and wash our hands of him.
Book value doesn't really mean much though, it's just part of what we paid for him, that's not his market value.
The poster is probably referring to ‘book value’, because selling below that will hamper United from a regulatory perspective.
It really doesn't though
I mean, categorically, it does weaken their position from a regulatory perspective. That’s not subjective. Whether that matters to United at this present time is another question.
Only if you ignore wages and their impact to PSR. So no, not really
Since it's the last contract year, there's not even a timing difference. It would have been irrelevant either way, because United are money constrained not PSR constrained, but it's doubly irrelevant for Sancho.
FFP/PSR has introduced football fans to the world of accounting, and it's the worst thing that could have happened.
Well you're still making a "loss" in that scenario, since it's a bunch of money you're spending for nothing
It categorically doesn't.
From a regulatory perspective, even ignoring wages, selling a player for 1£ strengthens the club's PSR position by 1£, over time. No matter the book value. However, due to how amortization works, you might see an initial weaker PSR position in the year or the sale, offset by an equally stronger position over the remaining years of the contract.
For players in the last year of their contract, none of that. Even ignoring wages, selling a player for 1£ is an immediate 1£ improvement regarding PSR, no matter the remaining book value.
100% agree with this, just sell him and move on. Getting rid of him regardless of whether it costs us or we gain from will be a good bit of business.
Push to squeeze a little more out of them by all means, but ultimately just get what you can for him.
The bigger issue is Rashford because of the remaining years on his deal.
The bigger issue is Rashford because of the remaining years on his deal.
It does, but so does keeping him, is ths point
I keep wondering what some people on here expected? You are trying to sell a burning house, located on a dumpster, that’s been built on an ancient burial ground, that’s been filled with nuclear waste. People won’t line up to hand you their cash. Especially since you have made it abundantly clear that you are desperate to sell and don’t want him back under any circumstances.
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