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When are BVB finishing their tour? We could really see movement soon when they return to Germany and with our season ended now. Ed has to secure this deal now, if he really cares
 

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Stop thinking our aim is to challenge for the title this season. Ain’t happening!
Don't tell me what to do!

Seriously, you are probably right. Although if we are spared from serious injuries, can get Sancho in and let's say a very good CB I think we can get much closer. Martial and Rashford's numbers have been very good this year, although still room for progress. We have Bruno from the start of the season...
 

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Considering we completed the Pogba and Maguire deal a week before the season started (or transfer window closed?). I'm not too fussed yet.
This is a huge deal that will take time. We might even complete and announce other signings before the Sancho one is completed.
 

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Considering we completed the Pogba and Maguire deal a week before the season started (or transfer window closed?). I'm not too fussed yet.
This is a huge deal that will take time. We might even complete and announce other signings before the Sancho one is completed.
I could live with that provided it's a pacy CB followed by ideally Grealish but more likely VDB. Yes I know we need a LB and DM too but don't see that until next summer.
 

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Not sure if it's quite as severe as needing to add 4 world class players to the starting XI, but like you said, expectations need to be realistic.

I'd be expecting us to/happy with consolidating our top 4 position - closing the points gap to City and Pool in the process - plus turning one of our semi-final exits into a trophy.

Sancho plus a couple of squad additions should be enough to achieve this, although I'm wary of how our rivals are building this summer. We need to be doing the same.
I still think we need 4 top level players to have any chance of competing for the title. They would need to come into the first eleven and therefore bench the ones that drop out in order to give us strength in depth which would allow us to challenge for the title.

Sancho, CDM, CB and a LB would be 4 positions we would need to strengthen massively if we want to challenge for the league.
 

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Our response to that debacle yesterday really should be to go out and get a couple quality additions to the team, Sancho being one of them. Here’s hoping.
 

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Have no idea why we bring Barca into this even as a comparison of spending.
We are on a journey to Arsenal standard mediocrity if we don’t bring in players who can be pivotal in moving forward. We have one in Bruno but we need another plus 2 more talented players in key positions
Ask Uncle Bob as he knows it all.


Not a great comparison given both signings have been expensive disasters for Barcelona. And what trophies have they won this season?
Sanchez was an expensive disaster for us too - he didn't fit into our squad.
Griezmann and Dembele both didn't fit into the Barca squad too but it would not mean that if they were transferred to another team they would not be the stars they were before.


Yeah and they both flopped. Barca is a complete and utter mess right now. They only thing keeping them relevant is Messi.

Liverpool on the other hand only spent big on VVD, because there was no other player who fit their profile and was cheaper. It's not the money you spend. It's how you spend it.
1) Griezmann and Dembele both didn't fit into the Barca squad too but it would not mean that if they were transferred to another team they would not be the stars they were before.
2) VVD was very expensive and Liverpoo* spent big on the goalie Alisson too.

3) It's not the money you spend. It's how you spend it. = completely wrong statement - it's not a question of money but how you utilise the players you get to their full potential for the good of your team and that's where the Manager has a very important role.
 

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When are BVB finishing their tour? We could really see movement soon when they return to Germany and with our season ended now. Ed has to secure this deal now, if he really cares
Everyone's welcome to draw up their own conclusions on this.

But this is the guy who has spent the majority of the last 6 transfer windows on a private beach in Marbella when he could easily go before or after. All the while, we unsurprisingly struggle to get deals done through lack of communication. Hmm
 

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I cannot believe this isn't done yet. My apologies to all I argued with earlier in the thread. Woodward really is lacking isn't he? Just pay the money and move on.
 

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When are BVB finishing their tour? We could really see movement soon when they return to Germany and with our season ended now. Ed has to secure this deal now, if he really cares
It is finished. Respect for still having hope, despite all the facts. And btw if Woodward had cared, he would have hired a DoF long ago, so that there would be a clear vision and path what this clubs needs, and this long before its getting urgent. So that maybe you would have had a chance on Bellingham and all the others you missed, and if you missed them, which always can happen, that there is a plan b and a plan c. Woodward don't care. As long as in his mind this club makes money, he doesn't care at all. All your energy as fans should go into changing the structure of the club.
 

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They can't withstand a deficit of 49,7 million euros for a long time. They lost that in what. Half a season?
 

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Get to the chopppaaaa.
They'll sell to us...but on whose terms? They'd be mental not to cash in this summer.
 

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It is finished. Respect for still having hope, despite all the facts. And btw if Woodward had cared, he would have hired a DoF long ago, so that there would be a clear vision and path what this clubs needs, and this long before its getting urgent. So that maybe you would have had a chance on Bellingham and all the others you missed, and if you missed them, which always can happen, that there is a plan b and a plan c. Woodward don't care. As long as in his mind this club makes money, he doesn't care at all. All your energy as fans should go into changing the structure of the club.
What sort of half garbage are you spouting? You don't know all or any of that. As for Sancho, we'll check back after October 5th, or anytime when the deal is done. Fair enough that you think it isn't going to happen, but i do. We'll see. Your club needs the money
 

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Let’s not get too excited. Watzke saying they have plenty of cash.
The benefit of not having a massive load of debt against their club. Despite our club being a cash cow for generating commercial revenue, we’re struggling to get any signings and are facing low cash reserves. The Glazers and shareholders have to get paid.
 

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What sort of half garbage are you spouting? You don't know all or any of that. As for Sancho, we'll check back after October 5th, or anytime when the deal is done. Fair enough that you think it isn't going to happen, but i do. We'll see. Your club needs the money
I fear for you that my club doesn't need the money, we need a Sancho, and we ve got one. You club needs a DoF, thats for sure.
 

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Another barren news day. I can't believe w
Let’s not get too excited. Watzke saying they have plenty of cash.
Posturing again. They also said that they lose 4 million euro for every home game and they certainly don't have the commercial deals to back it up in the long term.

That being said they won't budge its still pay up or get out.
 

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It is finished. Respect for still having hope, despite all the facts. And btw if Woodward had cared, he would have hired a DoF long ago, so that there would be a clear vision and path what this clubs needs, and this long before its getting urgent. So that maybe you would have had a chance on Bellingham and all the others you missed, and if you missed them, which always can happen, that there is a plan b and a plan c. Woodward don't care. As long as in his mind this club makes money, he doesn't care at all. All your energy as fans should go into changing the structure of the club.
Nothing is finished. This is the nature of business. I don't think we need a DoF tbh. I think Oles trying to emulate Sir Alex in that regard. So we will also be looking internally. Williams, Greenwood with others on the fringes. But United are much better then they have been over the last few seasons. We need to get a bit more out of Pogba and solve our width issues. At the end of the day, United aren't backed by oil but I think Ole bridges the gap by using youth and their is the loans market to consider. I think we'd have got your striker if that agent hadn't have been involved but there you go. We just have to wait and see what transpires
 

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People saying we need more than Sancho to challenge for the title need to have a reality check. There has never been a more obvious statement!

If we want to challenge for the title this season, we are realistically going to need around 4 world class players at least that will walk straight into our first eleven. You are looking at around £300m+ for that to happen. Please stop flying around in cuckoo land. We are absolutely not challenging for the title this season and that is not the aim either.

Getting Sancho brings us one huge step closer to challenging for the title in the coming couple of years! By getting Sancho we are setting the foundation for the next window where we can get even closer.

Stop thinking our aim is to challenge for the title this season. Ain’t happening!
I don't think it will take as many as 4 world class players. A top player like Sancho and some squad depth, look our points tally since the restart, if we can keep our starting 11 fit we can compete.

I'm not saying we should expect to win the league next season with Sancho but we've had spells, long spells, of form that were positive.

I'd argue, a world class CB and cover for Matic at CDM (after Sancho) would put us right in the mix.
 

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Woodward knew this was coming.

theyve been playing games and using their poker face all this time, we just sat there and smiled.

a 50m loss with even more to come. They might need to sell sancho just to break even!
 

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Crazy to see all those experts for a foreign club, this "selling club", which now simply doesn't want to sell, what to make out of this? Madness.
And of course its only posturing and lying in an official financial annual report just for the sake of cheating United :lol: The comedy never stops in here.
 

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I'd argue, a world class CB and cover for Matic at CDM (after Sancho) would put us right in the mix.
I Agree if we can structure a deal for Sancho and Get Upa or Another of Similar Quality and VdB I think we challenge . This is not beyond Realms of possibility but it will be based Imo on a structured Sancho Deal
 

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I fear for you that my club doesn't need the money, we need a Sancho, and we ve got one. You club needs a DoF, thats for sure.
Are you Dortmund’s financial advisor? Or just another clueless fan sprouting inaccurate information? Come down from your high horse buddy.
 

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As expected. Why else would they be begging for us to bid for sancho?

Play them like a fiddle Ed. I say submit the bid 48 hours before the deadline with a take it or leave it. Lets see if their board allows them to take a gamble that fans will return to the stands before 2021. Theres also no chance that it will be anywhere NEAR full capacity either. Oh and advertising money will be at least halved without fans.

They will be bleeding to death financially, with all the insanely high wages they are paying their teenagers. Are they going to ask their players to take paycuts again? :lol:

In a black swan event like Covid, even the best of companies struggle financially. Let alone a small club that ALREADY has flirted with bankruptcy less than 10 years ago.

All this would be fine by me if we secure a CB and possible central midfielder beforehand, and of course sell off the deadwood. Maybe even have a loan lined up for a winger (i.e. bale / demebele as a short term stop gap) in case we don't get Sancho.
 
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