Hmm is this Sky UK's sources then? They don't mention Sky Germany or anything like they usually do.
Jadon Sancho| Staying at Dortmund for now
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How can you be so sure it’s him
Probably their own sources, it's quite new information they would accept 100m with add ons.
Sky Sports UK.
They're also reporting that Dortmund are already looking for replacements.
I think it’ll be Pogba to share that role. With Fred/ McT filling in as a deeper role.
On the contrary I don’t think that’s just such a good deal considering we’re the only club seriously interested in him.
Bild reported days ago that they are looking at Ikone and Boga as possible replacements. Doubt Sky has any reliable info, their track record has been very spotty to say it mildly.
that being said, I wouldn't be surprised if €100m up front plus €20m in add-ons is really what we end up paying when all is said and done.
that being said, I wouldn't be surprised if €100m up front plus €20m in add-ons is really what we end up paying when all is said and done.
Dharmesh Seth on skysports just reclarified what we already know:
- Dortmund want 120m EUR
- United are pushing back, saying 1) it's covid and 2) no one else will offer that amount, it's a one horse race
- Dortmund want the deal done by 10th Aug due to preseason
- Both parties working to get the deal done, structuring the deal is as important as the total size itself
- He reckons the Coman link was just a way to tell Dortmund we can line someone else up if we need to
- Dortmund want 120m EUR
- United are pushing back, saying 1) it's covid and 2) no one else will offer that amount, it's a one horse race
- Dortmund want the deal done by 10th Aug due to preseason
- Both parties working to get the deal done, structuring the deal is as important as the total size itself
- He reckons the Coman link was just a way to tell Dortmund we can line someone else up if we need to
This would make the most sense for me but as we saw with the run-in, Ole didn't bother even trying it. Maybe as there was no room for error, so next season perhaps he'll trust McTominay and Fred a bit more.
Against weak teams that sit back I'm sure we'll have no problems putting Sancho in the #10 and having Greenwood come in on the right.
I don't think this is going to drag out as much as we thought. Sounds like Dortmund want him gone before they start training.
Its all good and well saying "its a one horse race lets wait it out" to pay less but by all accounts i dont think Dortumnd want to sell or are desperate for cash, so the only ones hurting here are us, unless of course Sancho tries to force through a move.
So they want this done before they start training AND also ensure they get full asking price one way or another?
Not sure it works that way.
Indeed 80m is ridiculous! but I'd rather play Pogba as AM than Sancho, if Bruno can't play. McSauce is good enough to play alongside Matic or Fred behind the AM.Because that is why people are keen on him coming?
It makes sense to have someone to cover if Bruno can't play.
Saves £80m() on Grealish too.
They brought in Haaland, Bellingham & Meunièr. Covid also happened. Going forward, they’d also risk a lower net profit on Sancho by waiting another year and receiving less money while also paying another years worth of wages to him which is a decent outlay no doubt.
I think there’s a reason why we’re confidently holding back paying the full sum.
I'm not convinced till ehsanul says sancho is signing for Madrid
This is the most important factor and why I think we will still pay the full 120m euros.
Arsenal signed Pepe for 80m euros despite only paying 10m.
I’m honestly laughing at all the ITK stuff I read on reddit last week about how the deal was almost done. Never buying into that bollocks again
Iniesta is an interesting shout. Sancho's touch and neat interplay are definitely world class.
Yeah I guess PP could play that role, as long as Ole trusts him there. My memory might be wrong but can't recall Pogba playing the role this season pre Fernandes. Could be another option though. As I said earlier, really feeling CB is a big area of improvement needed for us, over say, someone as expensive as Grealish.
All posturing at the end of the day. It's frustrating for us fans but that's the way transfers work. Both clubs want it to happen, it will happen
It was fun and intriguing to read it at first but after De Ligt last summer, i have learnt not to believe a word anymore. I mean why would a high ranking official with such confidential information post on a forum board and risk being found out and with his job on the line as well?I’m honestly laughing at all the ITK stuff I read on reddit last week about how the deal was almost done. Never buying into that bollocks again
Whats all this ehsanul talk about? What's that?
Surely there are players / ex players here lurking around or even posting. Especially the current squad. Do you believe Rashford never heard or browse redcafe ?I'm feckin' sure Rio is a regular on the CAF
You bought into it in the first place?I’m honestly laughing at all the ITK stuff I read on reddit last week about how the deal was almost done. Never buying into that bollocks again
Honestly if the upfront payment is £80m I’d totally be okay with paying the rest later. Just want us to be able to bring in 3 new signings. And really good ones.
That’ll be the difference in challenging for the title as early as next year or having to wait another year.
Presently, City & Chelsea need key defensive reinforcements to be able to mount a serious challenge. Spurs, Leicester and Arsenal are also short of a few players. We’re in a good position to be able to challenge Liverpool right away if we play our cards right. The year after, it’ll be much tougher.
I bet Rashford is one of most prominent Rashford critics in his performance thread, he does that just for fun, to spike things up.
I believe he was the one who was adamant Pogba wouldn't come here and insisting he will only go to Madrid from Juventus. He probably still doesn't believe Pogba is now a United player
To be frank, not completely but when I started reading about these ITKs’ credibility and how they supposedly have solid networks, I thought okay well they sound quite assured.
Turns out they’re riding the same bandwagon as others. It’s called the bollocks bandwagon.
Internet forums are actually a bit old fashioned, more likely players in the 24-30 range might know it. So maybe Lingard/Smalling/Jones etc.
He was denying the Pogba deal even whilst he was on his way to Carrington IIRC. It was fairly bizarre.
I see he became a redcafe legend.
If he really does prefer to join Liverpool over us, we should steer well clear.
EXACTLY!!!
Im pretty sure this guy you’re talking about was the reason I bought into that crap to begin with!
The guy who works for a German club. I’m forgetting the details but something like that.
Even if he did want to risk his job like that, the guy has time after his 9-5 to Then get on reddit as an ITK for a side job. Yeah sure bud!
I've never had less faith in 'English sources' with regard to one of our transfers than with this. News will break from Germany and they'll sheepishly, and uniformly piggyback it when the time comes.
That's bs to be honest United have regularly briefed English press about this transfer.
As we’ve all said far too much smoke not to happen, will imagine something in the region of €90-95m with €25-30m in add-ons.
i agree and i think he will stay at next season
This. I swear it’s always a trusted foreign source first then English media will shrug their shoulders and say nothing official initially. Like clockwork.
Basically 2 days later once they’ve realized it’s the most sellable piece of info
To be honest, not everyone is as up to date as we are on these forums.
I’ll give you my own example. I didn’t even know Caf existed until 2 years ago!
Till then my source for transfer gossip was ESPNFC, BBC & SKY with rare visits to Goal. Now I’d laugh if I ever used ESPN, SKY or Goal again. Barely even check BBC anymore.
But the stereotypical and generic audiences usually get their transfer news from these aforementioned sources.
So when do you guys think the deal will be done? I think the first week of September. I'm going for 3rd Sept.
I hope we drive a hard bargain for once. 120 million is an absurd amount in a post Covid world.
Hopefully a deal of around 80 million pounds polis achievable add on can be done
Hopefully a deal of around 80 million pounds polis achievable add on can be done
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