Jamal Musiala

Bottom of his leg looked snapped in half I’d be amazed if he’s back on a field in 4 months

6 months at best 7-8 months before he’s anywhere near fully fit in my opinion
 

Thanks.

Sounds wildly optimistic, but I'm no medical professional, just that, whenever I've seen a player's foot hanging like that, they've had a long time out of the game and never returned the same as they left. Sincerely hope that's not the case for Musiala because he genuinely had Ballon d'Or potential.
 
I don't think I've ever seen these types of injuries on players and they come back with the same spark :(
Even if they fully recover physically, I imagine it must be quite difficult to mentally get over the trauma of that kind of pain suffered
 
He won’t be right again this season even if he does make it back and will likely never be the same player again.

You would hope this would entice clubs to shun this type of cash-grab competition in the future but it won’t.
 
my son broke his fibula right at the ankle which looked very similar to what musiala did.....they had to put screw and a tight rope into his ankle during surgery and it took him almost a full year to get back to full health so he could play again
 
That’s a career changing injury. Think he’ll miss the season. Beyond that who knows.

Not necessarly. Wesley Fofana came back at a very high level 8 months later after a comparable injury for exemple.

Lets hope he comes back as soon as possible, his talent will be missed.
 
Not necessarly. Wesley Fofana came back at a very high level 8 months later after a comparable injury for exemple.

Lets hope he comes back as soon as possible, his talent will be missed.
The Wesley Fofana who can’t stay fit? Not the best example really! He’s been permanently ruined since the injury.
 
Fofana's issues, with his knee especially, started way before his fractured fibula.

That may well be true, but it’s not unusual for players to struggle badly with assorted long term injury issues after returning from really severe injuries. Major disruptions to the kinetic chain are liable to cause joint and muscle issues elsewhere, which is why you see some players struggle with minor but repeated strain injuries. Shaw is an example of that.
 
Horrible news. What an awful competition for it to happen in as well. Complete over-saturation of football.
 
Horrible news. What an awful competition for it to happen in as well. Complete over-saturation of football.

I'd keep every leagues version of the league, the FA cup & possibly the club world cup to replace the CL (only because football has extended over to non European Teams). I think this year was possibly a test to see if thats possible or just keep the CL if it doesn't work out - no need for both imo.

3 main club cups
2 International cups Euros/WC etc

Things like the Carabao Cup, an extra club world cup is all too much.

I'm actually looking forward to United playing one game per week, it may give our team some energy in to next season aswell.
 
I'd keep every leagues version of the league, the FA cup & possibly the club world cup to replace the CL (only because football has extended over to non European Teams). I think this year was possibly a test to see if thats possible or just keep the CL if it doesn't work out - no need for both imo.

3 main club cups
2 International cups Euros/WC etc

Things like the Carabao Cup, an extra club world cup is all too much.

I'm actually looking forward to United playing one game per week, it may give our team some energy in to next season aswell.
The Carabao Cup has become a much bigger competition in its own right in the last five years - it was reason enough for Newcastle to have a parade, and is only really dismissed by teams chasing the PL and/or CL these days.

I reckon if anything is going to change it will be even bigger squad allowances to cope with the number of games and more mandatory use of said squad, perhaps even a games per season cap for the well being of the players.
 
He won’t be right again this season even if he does make it back and will likely never be the same player again.

You would hope this would entice clubs to shun this type of cash-grab competition in the future but it won’t.
While I don't give a damn about this competition, couldn't he have been injured in any game? It's just a matter of probability that he got injured in this game. When Shaw broke his leg thanks to a horrible tackle (which went absolutely unpunished funnily enough) it was just as sad and sickening even though it was a CL game. By having 3 less games every four years we cannot reduce the probability of injury by much to be honest. Footballers will always go for these 50-50 tackles and sometimes one will come worse off. I am sure Donnarumma was not looking to break Jamals ankles. If it was a fatigue injury it would have been different.
 
While I don't give a damn about this competition, couldn't he have been injured in any game? It's just a matter of probability that he got injured in this game. When Shaw broke his leg thanks to a horrible tackle (which went absolutely unpunished funnily enough) it was just as sad and sickening even though it was a CL game. By having 3 less games every four years we cannot reduce the probability of injury by much to be honest. Footballers will always go for these 50-50 tackles and sometimes one will come worse off. I am sure Donnarumma was not looking to break Jamals ankles. If it was a fatigue injury it would have been different.
It’s also a matter a probability that the more matches played the more probability for injury, especially considering he was just coming back from a previous injury. Players need a break now and then. He would’ve been kicked back on holiday if not for this sham of a tournament.
 
It’s also a matter a probability that the more matches played the more probability for injury, especially considering he was just coming back from a previous injury. Players need a break now and then. He would’ve been kicked back on holiday if not for this sham of a tournament.

Or he wouldn't be injured if his greedy club that he signed a contract with didn't play him in a meaningless game?

Bayern's top4 players by appearances this season have been included in almost every game in this competition. Kimmich who has played total of 53 games this season has played full 90 minutes in a game they've won 10-0.

Nobody is forcing them to play, just few European clubs are playing this competition, they can easily play players who aren't that important and haven't played much this season. But both club and players want to earn as much money as they can.
 
He told reporters: "A situation where you don't have to go in like that! That's reckless. He accepts the risk of injuring his opponent.

"I went to him and said, 'Don't you want to go to our player?' It's a matter of respect to go over and wish the guy all the best. He did it afterward. (...) Fairness is always important. I would have reacted differently."

Neuer blaming Donnaruma, what a cnut. He is one of the most agressive keepers in past 10 years or so when is facing forwards, always likes to come out and pick the ball so often with tackling the ball that forwards simply has to stay out of the duel, and yet he calls this reckless challenge from Donnaruma.
 
Neuer blaming Donnaruma, what a cnut. He is one of the most agressive keepers in past 10 years or so when is facing forwards, always likes to come out and pick the ball so often with tackling the ball that forwards simply has to stay out of the duel, and yet he calls this reckless challenge from Donnaruma.
The challenge was reckless, though.
 
It’s also a matter a probability that the more matches played the more probability for injury, especially considering he was just coming back from a previous injury. Players need a break now and then. He would’ve been kicked back on holiday if not for this sham of a tournament.
Players are welcome to not ramp up their wage demands more and more for less playing time. They get more breaks than you and get paid way better. Players are fine.
 
Or he wouldn't be injured if his greedy club that he signed a contract with didn't play him in a meaningless game?

Bayern's top4 players by appearances this season have been included in almost every game in this competition. Kimmich who has played total of 53 games this season has played full 90 minutes in a game they've won 10-0.

Nobody is forcing them to play, just few European clubs are playing this competition, they can easily play players who aren't that important and haven't played much this season. But both club and players want to earn as much money as they can.
What are they supposed to do ? Refuse to play ? I agree it’s odd that Kompany and others haven’t rotated more in this tournament. But that is also just a top player’s mentality. If there is a match they want to play. It’s not all about money. Mostly but not all anyway. Prestige plays a part as well.
Players are welcome to not ramp up their wage demands more and more for less playing time. They get more breaks than you and get paid way better. Players are fine.
Federations and clubs have driven the eye-watering inflation in the game far more than players or even agents. If everyone weren’t on their knees gobbling up state sponsorship and sportwashing the finances of the game would look very different and atrocities like the CWC wouldn’t even exist.
 
Didn't Valencia have a similar injury for us against Rangers, lower leg break/dislocated ankle? He was back after 5/6 months. Hopefully, he can come back quick and carry on where he left off as he is such a good talent. Would be a shame if we don't see the best of him.
 
Neuer blaming Donnaruma, what a cnut. He is one of the most agressive keepers in past 10 years or so when is facing forwards, always likes to come out and pick the ball so often with tackling the ball that forwards simply has to stay out of the duel, and yet he calls this reckless challenge from Donnaruma.
I'm sure Neuer was all about respect and fair play when he hammered Higuain
 
Didn't Valencia have a similar injury for us against Rangers, lower leg break/dislocated ankle? He was back after 5/6 months. Hopefully, he can come back quick and carry on where he left off as he is such a good talent. Would be a shame if we don't see the best of him.
Maybe I'm misremembering, but he was out a bit longer and never quite the same afterwards. Still absolutely rapid though
 
I'm sure Neuer was all about respect and fair play when he hammered Higuain
Two wrongs don’t make a right. But while I get the criticism towards Neuer, he really is quite reckless at times himself, I would say what Donnarumma did yesterday was more dangerous. But what I find even worse is, that he apparently didn’t even go to Musiala afterwards. That’s a lack of character to me.
 
Two wrongs don’t make a right. But while I get the criticism towards Neuer, he really is quite reckless at times himself, I would say what Donnarumma did yesterday was more dangerous. But what I find even worse is, that he apparently didn’t even go to Musiala afterwards. That’s a lack of character to me.
He was visibly shaken afterwards. And according to Neuer himself, he did go over later on, right?

It was totally unnecessary, that's for sure. I'm not convinced it was overly reckless compared to usual goalkeeper play though, mind. Should've been a pen regardless.
 
He was visibly shaken afterwards. And according to Neuer himself, he did go over later on, right?

It was totally unnecessary, that's for sure. I'm not convinced it was overly reckless compared to usual goalkeeper play though, mind. Should've been a pen regardless.
He went to Musiala because Neuer told him to. Minutes after the challenge.
 
Maybe I'm misremembering, but he was out a bit longer and never quite the same afterwards. Still absolutely rapid though

He had his best seasons post leg break and was a pretty reliably fit tank, unlike some who can become injury prone.

Hopefully Musiala is similar. Larsson broke his leg horribly and came back, as did Andy Cole who broke both legs.
 
He was visibly shaken afterwards. And according to Neuer himself, he did go over later on, right?

It was totally unnecessary, that's for sure. I'm not convinced it was overly reckless compared to usual goalkeeper play though, mind. Should've been a pen regardless.
Yeah Donna looked sick as soon as he saw the state of Musiala. I will say he is prone to go wandering in the box and even did so earlier in the match on a cross which he was lucky to get away with. It’s just not his strong suit. But the rules are the real issue.

Players can barely make a fair challenge on the ball against a keeper without getting whistled up for it. Yet keepers routinely clear players out to get to the ball in the box. The challenge yesterday should’ve been a penalty at the very least and possibly a yellow for recklessness from a pure common sense perspective.
 
Didn't see the match but saw the highlights, don't see how anyone can criticize Donnaruma for the challenge. It was perfectly legitemite.

Gutted for Musiala though, really hope he can recover and get back to his level.
 
Unnecessarily hard challenge after Musiala unnecessarily went for a lost ball after unnecessarily being rushed back from injury to play in an unnecessary tournament.

He plays for a rival but this really sucks. Stellar talent and with his playstyle, this is one of the worst things that could happen to him both physically and mentally. Tough to see the positive in it but Wirtz came back from a seriously severe injury even better than before and in case of Musiala, maybe it will lead to him becoming a more purposeful and by that deadly dribbler. Modern medicine is amazing as well. Entirely possible he will completely fine in half a year.
 
Not necessarly. Wesley Fofana came back at a very high level 8 months later after a comparable injury for exemple.

Lets hope he comes back as soon as possible, his talent will be missed.
A centre back is different because the role is largely about reading the game and positioning.

Musiala is an explosive dribbler who relies heavily on his quick feet and rapid acceleration.

He also has a very high football IQ so he'll still be a really good player but I just hope he makes a great recovery and doesn't lose his explosiveness.
 
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The challenge was reckless, though.




At worst, at worst it was yellow card for Donnaruma. But on another day Musiala could have injured the keeper, and not the other way around, Musiala was also very agressive and had no right to go for that ball either.

He also came from weird position positioned by side basically risking an injury.

Very sorry for him, it's a terrible injury, but he was just unlucky, if we were to blame anyone here then you can say Musiala can blame only himself, but that's football.
 


At worst, at worst it was yellow card for Donnaruma. But on another day Musiala could have injured the keeper, and not the other way around, Musiala was also very agressive and had no right to go for that ball either.

He also came from weird position positioned by side basically risking an injury.

Very sorry for him, it's a terrible injury, but he was just unlucky, if we were to blame anyone here then you can say Musiala can blame only himself, but that's football.

He got in front of the keeper and was trying to knick the ball that was being ushered away.

In what world was he "very aggressive"?
 
The challenge was reckless, though.

I'd tend to agree, the defender is shielding the ball but for some reason stops, this gives Musiala a chance of getting it and he goes for it. Donnarumma dived right through him to get to the ball from a awkward angle and wrapped him up with his full body weight. It's not like he was diving to feet and collected the ball cleanly, he made a rash split second decision based on the defenders decision to stop.

For me that's a penalty and probably a red.
 
Suggestions of cutting cup competitions from the schedule will only fall on deaf ears. The "game" has long since lost its spirit to the almighty $/€/₤. The clubs and administrators are making vast sums of money from increasing workloads, not reducing them.