James Garner

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  1. Feb 14, 2019
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    limerickcitykid There once was a kid from Toronto...

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    Based on what?
  2. Feb 15, 2019
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    Mickson Full Member

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    Based on what I've seen and his characteristics as a player?

    I didn't say that he's a poor defender, I said he's ok there. But he should play as a midfielder because he's better suited to that role.
  3. Feb 15, 2019
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    SteveW Full Member

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    Just not quite seeing it with this lad. He's captained England at his age group so he is highly rated but I honestly dont see what he does that would suggest he would make it here. Just seems to be ok at most things. Levitt looks more talented to me but I dont think he'll make it here either.

    Perhaps someone can tell me what I'm missing here
  4. Feb 15, 2019
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    AltiUn likes playing with swords after fantasies

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    He's exceptional at controlling the tempo of the game, which is a skill I find can't really be taught, shows he has a very good understanding on the game's flow. Add that to the fact he's a mixture of all the attributes we've been crying out for in a CDM/DLP: he's good tackler, passer, very mobile and has great vision. He possesses important leadership qualities, his attitude on the pitch is fantastic. He's also versatile, when he played at CB he was very good there too. Will he make it here? Who knows, he's a very good player though.
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    AP88 Full Member

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    It’s nothing to do with a decline as a midfielder, it’s just about evaluating where his ability will be maximised moving forward; in an era where Lindelof and Stones are regarded as ‘ball playing’ because they take too long on the ball before they play a primitive pass, someone like Garner, with his passing range, could easily eclipse them by his early 20s.

    He’ll be fantastic in either role, but at this age it’d be better to learn the intricacies of defending as he looks to have already mastered the midfield role - plus he’s almost been forced into a more box to bid role ATM anyway with Levitt seemingly trusted as the DLP.
  6. Feb 16, 2019
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    khoazany Full Member

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    I don't get what people are talking about. Garner's attributes is perfect for number 6 role, and that's why he's so highly regarded. There's a reason why we played him up to midfield since U15s, just like how we moved Rashford up to striker.
  7. Feb 22, 2019
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    Pearson Full Member

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    He reminds me of Xabi Alonso
  8. Feb 27, 2019
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    Inigo Montoya Leave Wayne Rooney alone!!

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    What are the chances of him making an appearance tonight?

    What would be his best role?
  9. Feb 27, 2019
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    Red_toad Full Member

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    Very similar style to Carrick, so alongside McTommy at some point if we need to retain possession at some point.
  10. Feb 27, 2019
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    glazed Full Member

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    I loved the Rockford Files as a kid.

  11. Feb 27, 2019
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    0le Full Member

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    I thought this read as "the Rashford files" for a sec!
  12. Feb 27, 2019
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    Bill Hartzia New Member

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    Me too. Whenever I see this kid's name mentioned, I have agreeable flashbacks.
  13. Feb 27, 2019
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    BlahRules Full Member

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    Andreas P will likely to get on the pitch than James G.
  14. Feb 27, 2019
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    SirAF Ageist

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    What about Marcos R?
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    BrianMcClair'sBarnet New Member

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    I feel old.
  16. Feb 28, 2019
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    NickyT New Member

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    Congrats to him on his debut, fingers crossed he can stay injury free and get some more minutes in the league from here on.
  17. Feb 28, 2019
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    JJ12 Correctly predicted Portugal to win Euro 2016

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    I think out of the 3 (Garner, Chong and Gomes) I think he has the best chance to make it here.

    Greenwood and Laird being ahead of Chong and Gomes too.
  18. Feb 28, 2019
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    ArjenIsM3 Full Member

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    Great moment for him. Hopefully there's more where this came from. Maybe give him something like 20 minutes next time, allow him to get involved. Not too sure about Gomes and Chong but I have high hopes for him, Greenwood and Laird.
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    I think they all have a very good shot at making it here. The lads coming through are by far the best we've had since 92.
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    Rozay Master of Hindsight

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    He has everything I want to see except dribbling ability. I think that’s so crucial in his role. I don’t mean Ryan Giggs’ mazy dribbling, but more Marco Verratti shuffles to skip away from a press. Busquets and Pirlo has great feet under pressure, for instance.
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    Needham Full Member

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    Incredible theme tune, Rockford made you want to become middle aged and gnarly. Let's hope Garner is one tenth the man.
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    TwoSheds More sheds (and tiles) than you, probably

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    Better than Pogba and Lingard?
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    JJ12 Correctly predicted Portugal to win Euro 2016

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    It would be amazing for the club if we get 2 players of their standard out of them.

    Greenwood
    Garner
    Gomes
    Chong
    Laird

    I'm most confident of Greenwood and Laird but also think Garner has a shot.
  24. Feb 28, 2019

    Mylock New Member

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    You should add O 'Connor to that list. He has great chance to make it here but will need go on loan 1st.
  25. Feb 28, 2019

    limerickcitykid There once was a kid from Toronto...

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    Seems unlikely. Laird has been the one name dropped and Lee hasn't been included in any of the promotion to the first team like the others. I hope he pushes for a move away in the summer. He's way too good to be farting around in the u23s playing for a degenerate moron in Sbragia. He is a top talent and if we aren't going to give him a chance then he needs to go elsewhere now.
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    Mickson Full Member

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    He wont. He's a good player but I don't get the hype. What's his best position for starters?
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    Adnan Full Member

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    I'd like to see him get about 30 minutes against Southampton.
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    Mylock New Member

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    I still believe Lee has a chance, we'll be getting rid of Valencia, Damian, TFM and Rojo and possibly another CH in the summer which will create opportunities for O connor and Laird. Both are versatile and attacking minded and are good defenders. Defenders need more experience before they start to get the chances in the 1st team squad. I can see O connor in the summer squad and going out on loan if he's deemed to need more experience. He should be pushing for a loan. He's highly rated by McKenna and Carrick so time will tell if he'll get a chance, he'll have to make the most of the summer tour if he makes the squad.
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    Scholsey2004 Full Member

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    There seem to be a lot of carrick comparisons. Personally I think hes a bit like Nicky butt. Looks very controlled in his slide tackles.
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    How far is he from first team football, with the fact we don't have a DM playing right now?
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    Remember the geese New Member

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    He's the reason why I'm not at all bothered about the "new shiny thing", Declan Rice. In an ideal world Garner would serve as Matic's understudy for a couple of years before taking the reigns. Unfortunately this isn't an ideal world because Matic looks completely shot. What the solution is, I don't know. Regardless, Garner in my opinion should be a squad option next season alongside several other players from our academy.
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    Inigo Montoya Leave Wayne Rooney alone!!

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    We'll only know in pre season. The fact that we're still in with a chance of 4th seems unlikely that Ole will put him in.
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    After what Roy Keane said about Freds game, and Oles' reaction... well I don't know
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    MadMike Full Member

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    Then you probably are
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    Garner needs to get some game time as if we have any injuries to our few midfielders he needs to be ready.
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    Fosu-Mens Full Member

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    Dylan Levitt is the one that is most similar to Carrick among our youngsters.
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    In Rainbows Full Member

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    Garner is more of a defensive specialist than Carrick was. Garner is very combative, but also great on the ball. A DM that is great with the ball. So I can see why you would say Levitt is more similar to Carrick, but do think that Carrick was able to develop his defensive positioning with age where as Levitt doesn't have that right now.
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    noodlehair "It's like..."

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    This season feels like it'd be too early for him...at the very least another year of development wouldn't do him any harm. Though if it starts to look too easy for him maybe then it's different.
  40. Aug 14, 2019

    mattsville Full Member

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    You will see Garner this season in the first team at times, nothing bothers him, incredibly talented, what a right foot he has.