James Maddison | Spurs

jeff gurr

Full Member
Joined
Jul 26, 2018
Messages
1,228
Location
Canada
Supports
Leicester City
He's mint.
Think I'm right in saying he'll have a year left on his contract come the summer. We need to be all over him now before Leicester get him to extend.
As per transfermarkt Madison's under contract until end of June 2023. I'm sure Leicester will be trying to extend him this Summer. Some good performances for England this year will only increase his value.
 

croadyman

Full Member
Joined
Mar 9, 2018
Messages
34,704
United seriously have our work cut out to lure him next summer, looks to me he is loving life at Leicester and why would you want to leave that.
 

fps

Full Member
Joined
Dec 22, 2018
Messages
5,504
United seriously have our work cut out to lure him next summer, looks to me he is loving life at Leicester and why would you want to leave that.
The interesting thing for Leicester will be how they replace Vardy. Someone else has to come in and spearhead that side, and Vardy is extraordinary in their system, obvs a system in large part constructed to get the best out of him.
 

AFC NimbleThumb

New Member
Joined
Apr 21, 2019
Messages
8,363
This place will be an absolute state when Leicester make Top4 & we get fed the same spin they tried with Sancho.
 

C'est Moi Cantona

Full Member
Joined
Feb 15, 2014
Messages
8,755
Leicester would rinse us dry if we did get him, and then carry on as if nothing happened, whilst we'd turn him into a Jesse Lingard/David Bentley crossbreed, and wheel Mata out to fill the void once more.

Nothing will change until the club does.
 

Jimmy Skitz

Full Member
Joined
Apr 16, 2013
Messages
2,585
Location
Leicester
Supports
Leicester City
The interesting thing for Leicester will be how they replace Vardy. Someone else has to come in and spearhead that side, and Vardy is extraordinary in their system, obvs a system in large part constructed to get the best out of him.
if you described how we play the last striker you would think is leading it would be Vardy, he doesn't get that many touches in the game but that bit is by design, he's been told to do his work within the width of the penalty area
 

fps

Full Member
Joined
Dec 22, 2018
Messages
5,504
if you described how we play the last striker you would think is leading it would be Vardy, he doesn't get that many touches in the game but that bit is by design, he's been told to do his work within the width of the penalty area
He’s the cutting edge though, that’s the point, getting a replacement of his quality is hardest for Leicester of all their players. His aggression, pace and finishing are extraordinary.
 

RooneyLegend

New Member
Joined
May 3, 2013
Messages
12,963
Maddison and Mount this season. :drool:

Two young English midfielders with excellent technical ability, great set piece delivery, and integral to their sides being level on points in the top 4.

Maddison is the more flashy of the two, Mount the more tenacious hard worker. Both have the same number of goals in the PL and both look like they could score every game.

Should be some great competition between them for an England place going forward.
Mount isn't fit to lace Maddison's boots and never will be.
 

RooneyLegend

New Member
Joined
May 3, 2013
Messages
12,963
He’s the cutting edge though, that’s the point, getting a replacement of his quality is hardest for Leicester of all their players. His aggression, pace and finishing are extraordinary.
They'd do well to get someone like Osimhen in.
 

RedRonaldo

Wishes to be oppressed.
Joined
Aug 17, 2003
Messages
18,996
Why would Maddison interested to joining us anyway? They are in 2nd place and looks very likely of CL football next season, we are at 14th.
 

Drainy

Full Member
Joined
May 5, 2009
Messages
14,822
Location
Dissin' Your Flygirl
Why would Maddison interested to joining us anyway? They are in 2nd place and looks very likely of CL football next season, we are at 14th.
Its a subjective decision based on what a player wants from their career.

We're an historic club in a transitional period with a lot of young players finding their way in the game and are likely to compete again in a few years, while Leicester also have a lot of great young players they also have key players approaching declining age and if any other key young players (like Ndidi) get offers from bigger clubs the whole thing can come down quickly.

Plus Man Utd will pay more, and increase your pubic profile if you want that, on top of the whole prestige being able to say you played for Man Utd when you retire..
 

Litch

Full Member
Joined
Dec 23, 2013
Messages
10,238
Its a subjective decision based on what a player wants from their career.

We're an historic club in a transitional period with a lot of young players finding their way in the game and are likely to compete again in a few years, while Leicester also have a lot of great young players they also have key players approaching declining age and if any other key young players (like Ndidi) get offers from bigger clubs the whole thing can come down quickly.

Plus Man Utd will pay more, and increase your pubic profile if you want that, on top of the whole prestige being able to say you played for Man Utd when you retire..
Pretty much this. Football as we know is a short career and you need to maximise your potential during it for after it. Playing for big clubs is your passport into many opportunities including business and media ventures. As we especially know at Utd, is much more than just football.
 

Alexit

New Member
Newbie
Joined
Jan 22, 2018
Messages
383
Leicester would rinse us dry if we did get him, and then carry on as if nothing happened, whilst we'd turn him into a Jesse Lingard/David Bentley crossbreed, and wheel Mata out to fill the void once more.

Nothing will change until the club does.
Sad but true :(
 

Ekeke

Full Member
Joined
Aug 1, 2006
Messages
53,283
Location
Hope, We Lose
So, no idea if the rumour ended up being true, but remember in the summer when the rumour was that Maddison wanted to speak about our aims and intentions before being interested in a transfer?

Hopefully you can see why now, with Leicester 2nd in the table and him being one of the very best AMs in the league - probably 2nd behind De Bruyne. Speaking of which another issue was that people didnt like him as much because crossing was a large part of where his key passes came from. De Bruyne averages the most crosses of any player in the league with 3 a game, another player who's key passes mainly come from crosses this season. Doesnt stop him being a top player
 

tonnas

New Member
Newbie
Joined
Jul 2, 2013
Messages
759
Leicester would rinse us dry if we did get him, and then carry on as if nothing happened, whilst we'd turn him into a Jesse Lingard/David Bentley crossbreed, and wheel Mata out to fill the void once more.

Nothing will change until the club does.
oh please, liek we turned bissaka into mr bean, and james into a poor footballer?
 

dev1l

Full Member
Joined
Jun 8, 2006
Messages
9,598
Why would Maddison interested to joining us anyway? They are in 2nd place and looks very likely of CL football next season, we are at 14th.
Biggest problem would be leicester... as with Maguire, they don't need to and don't want to sell. They ll quote a very high price...80 to 100 million and won't move an inch.
 

DWelbz19

Correctly predicted Portugal to win Euro 2016
Joined
Oct 31, 2012
Messages
34,019
Mount isn't fit to lace Maddison's boots and never will be.
Bit hyperbolic, but I do agree Mount is toward the far end and Maddison at the top of the young British midfielders/wingers in the league at the moment.
 

amolbhatia50k

Sneaky bum time - Vaccination status: dozed off
Joined
Nov 8, 2002
Messages
95,673
Location
india
Bit hyperbolic, but I do agree Mount is toward the far end and Maddison at the top of the young British midfielders/wingers in the league at the moment.
Isn't Mount much younger? And better than Maddison was at the same age?
 

RuudTom83

Full Member
Joined
Sep 30, 2013
Messages
5,587
Location
Manc
This summer will probably be the first summer where just being Manchester United won’t be enough.

The club has fallen too far, it’s depressing.

But I’m happy Maddison is showing some good form, the Prem has some very exciting young players performing at the moment.
 

Ekeke

Full Member
Joined
Aug 1, 2006
Messages
53,283
Location
Hope, We Lose
This summer will probably be the first summer where just being Manchester United won’t be enough.

The club has fallen too far, it’s depressing.

But I’m happy Maddison is showing some good form, the Prem has some very exciting young players performing at the moment.
Where were you the past windows?

Money is whats been enough, sometimes, but not all the time
 

Orc

Pretended to be a United fan for two years
Joined
Dec 17, 2012
Messages
5,322
Supports
Chelsea
Mount isn't fit to lace Maddison's boots and never will be.
Says someone who obviously hasn't watched him closely this season. Pretty much the first name on our team sheet this year. Like I said, Maddison is the more flashy player who goes about it with lots of flair so he'll get more attention but I think they're at a similar level.

He wouldn't be an every match starter at Chelsea and wouldn't have gone straight into the England squad otherwise.
 

Ekeke

Full Member
Joined
Aug 1, 2006
Messages
53,283
Location
Hope, We Lose
Says someone who obviously hasn't watched him closely this season. Pretty much the first name on our team sheet this year. Like I said, Maddison is the more flashy player who goes about it with lots of flair so he'll get more attention but I think they're at a similar level.

He wouldn't be an every match starter at Chelsea and wouldn't have gone straight into the England squad otherwise.

Mount has been less consistent
 

Orc

Pretended to be a United fan for two years
Joined
Dec 17, 2012
Messages
5,322
Supports
Chelsea
Mount has been less consistent
He has....actually been very consistent. In fact, that's what makes him a key player for us. He's our "trigger" player for the high press and does so very well most games.

Anyway, enough about Mount. I won't derail this thread any more.
 

RedRonaldo

Wishes to be oppressed.
Joined
Aug 17, 2003
Messages
18,996
Its a subjective decision based on what a player wants from their career.

We're an historic club in a transitional period with a lot of young players finding their way in the game and are likely to compete again in a few years, while Leicester also have a lot of great young players they also have key players approaching declining age and if any other key young players (like Ndidi) get offers from bigger clubs the whole thing can come down quickly.

Plus Man Utd will pay more, and increase your pubic profile if you want that, on top of the whole prestige being able to say you played for Man Utd when you retire..
Its sad isn't it, we can only live in past glories.
Players nowadays will only choose us because we will pay more.
 

Ekeke

Full Member
Joined
Aug 1, 2006
Messages
53,283
Location
Hope, We Lose
He has....actually been very consistent. In fact, that's what makes him a key player for us. He's our "trigger" player for the high press and does so very well most games.

Anyway, enough about Mount. I won't derail this thread any more.
Right. But not as consistent as Maddison who has 4 goals and 2 assists in 11 games, to Mount's 4 goals and 1 assist in 12 games
 

Chicharito_

Full Member
Joined
Aug 4, 2010
Messages
1,722
I think the only hope we have of him joining us is that he's a Man United fan, hopefully it was his dream from a young age to play for us and he follows his heart over his head!
 

Drainy

Full Member
Joined
May 5, 2009
Messages
14,822
Location
Dissin' Your Flygirl
Its sad isn't it, we can only live in past glories.
Players nowadays will only choose us because we will pay more.
Any club is going to lose its way after a manager like Sir Alex retiring. No doubt it should have been managed far far better but it was always going to happen because he was so central to the success by getting the best out of players.

Man Utd are a famous and historic club in a period of transition, it's only 'living on past glory' if there is no plan of action and at the end of the day, the club has to reinvent itself in a sporting sense.

The sadness for me comes from that it's not showing signs of progress over the last 6 years, which is to be expected when there is no overarching vision for the club and style of play. Every one of our managers since Sir Alex has played a different style from each other which is a really inefficient way to run a club from squad replenishment and transfer budget utilisation to training and implementation of the game plan on match day.

Once the club banks on a vision and works as a whole and makes the right investments to achieve it we will see a return to consistent top 4 and trophy challenges because of the tangible reality of club reputation and resources that we have, and you seem to be shitting on for some reason.
 

DWelbz19

Correctly predicted Portugal to win Euro 2016
Joined
Oct 31, 2012
Messages
34,019
Isn't Mount much younger? And better than Maddison was at the same age?
Football is unfortunately not linear to suggest that just because Mount is better than Maddison was at this age, he’ll go on to be even better than Maddison at 22. It’s hardly an argument you’d use to suggest Rashford will be better than Ronaldo, as he was better than Ronaldo at this age (as he had scored more goals and assists)?
 

Dancfc

Full Member
Joined
Oct 28, 2016
Messages
7,407
Supports
Chelsea
Mount isn't fit to lace Maddison's boots and never will be.
Something I do find quite ironic about this argument is for years we were told Hazard would never be as good as Neymar/Bale/even Salah because he wasn't producing the numbers they did yet now we have a player on the right side on that argument the goalposts are shifted.

Not saying you specifically, just talking the general consensus.
 

amolbhatia50k

Sneaky bum time - Vaccination status: dozed off
Joined
Nov 8, 2002
Messages
95,673
Location
india
Football is unfortunately not linear to suggest that just because Mount is better than Maddison was at this age, he’ll go on to be even better than Maddison at 22. It’s hardly an argument you’d use to suggest Rashford will be better than Ronaldo, as he was better than Ronaldo at this age (as he had scored more goals and assists)?
Did I suggest that football was linear and that Mount will be better than Maddison?
 

Jimmy Skitz

Full Member
Joined
Apr 16, 2013
Messages
2,585
Location
Leicester
Supports
Leicester City
Because this is Manchester United. Tired of the pity party.
and that attitude is a massive part of the reason you are in a mess, too many running the club seem to think you have a divine right to be challenging for the league, you weren't before Sir Alex and haven't since
 

RedRonaldo

Wishes to be oppressed.
Joined
Aug 17, 2003
Messages
18,996
Any club is going to lose its way after a manager like Sir Alex retiring. No doubt it should have been managed far far better but it was always going to happen because he was so central to the success by getting the best out of players.

Man Utd are a famous and historic club in a period of transition, it's only 'living on past glory' if there is no plan of action and at the end of the day, the club has to reinvent itself in a sporting sense.

The sadness for me comes from that it's not showing signs of progress over the last 6 years, which is to be expected when there is no overarching vision for the club and style of play. Every one of our managers since Sir Alex has played a different style from each other which is a really inefficient way to run a club from squad replenishment and transfer budget utilisation to training and implementation of the game plan on match day.

Once the club banks on a vision and works as a whole and makes the right investments to achieve it we will see a return to consistent top 4 and trophy challenges because of the tangible reality of club reputation and resources that we have, and you seem to be shitting on for some reason.
Well having spend 600-700m ever since Fergie has retired 6 years ago, we are sitting at 14th place in the league. Its really sad.
 

Schmeichel's Cartwheel

Correctly predicted Italy to win Euro 2020
Joined
Dec 21, 2014
Messages
11,420
Location
Manchester
He'd be daft to come to the United circus right now. Leicester is the best place for his career. Maybe Liverpool would be a decent move for him?
 

Acole9

Outstanding
Joined
Feb 17, 2013
Messages
12,507
and that attitude is a massive part of the reason you are in a mess, too many running the club seem to think you have a divine right to be challenging for the league, you weren't before Sir Alex and haven't since
Bang on, getting tired of hearing all the "We're Manchester United" brigade. It's so arrogant and embarrassing.