Litch
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Wow this bullshit list of potential transfers is growing daily.....
I totally agree, the attacking specialists need to be of genuine top quality and it's totally worth it to accommodate them, the others can be jacks of all trades, masters of none. From a technical and creative standpoint Maddison looks like a potential top PL player but it would be good if his fee reflected the doubts that surround him.I like him, not sure just how good he is or potential wise if he can be a truly top player. My thing with the players in your most creative/attacking positions like where he plays, usually includes the #10 and striker, is that they really need to be top, top players if you want to be a top team. You can have players who punch above their weight in some positions and you can "make do" with them for the system, but if you use a creative midfielder/advanced playmaker type, then they probably want them to be truly world class (or close to it) and not simply "good" players. So that'd be my reservation for Maddison, though I havent paid enough attention to really say whether he can reach that really high level or not.
He also said it in a video on the England national team YouTube channel.
I think they are different, but I could see Brooks ending up centrally too. I’ve compared Brooks to Bernardo Silva in the past. In my opinion, James Maddison is probably more of a KdB/David Silva mix (type wise, not talent/level).Aren't they different player, Maddison being centrally while Brooks mainly plays wide?
true but any player will swap Lei for Utd.And a better manager!
Thanks, I was under the same impression. If anything they could both be options to entertain.I think they are different, but I could see Brooks ending up centrally too. I’ve compared Brooks to Bernardo Silva in the past. In my opinion, James Maddison is probably more of a KdB/David Silva mix (type wise, not talent/level).
Bringing in these type of players would make us more flexible and more suited to OGS style, I would imagine.
Made up or not, it seems to be assuming that Pogba is headed for Madrid, so he would be here to replace him rather than play next to him. I think he's probably too attacking to replace Herrera, unless we are changing the system.He wants to play in the Champions League yet has reservations about not cracking United’s current starting 11?
Story sounds made up and poorly thought out.
Do we? I don't think Pogba is a 10 and Mata is probably going to leave or sign a new deal and play a bit part role.Anyone think he could work as a midfielder in 3 man midfield ?
For a pure 10, doesn't make sense to spend 60-70 m when we have better options available.
Replacing Pogba with Maddison. What a downgrade.Made up or not, it seems to be assuming that Pogba is headed for Madrid, so he would be here to replace him rather than play next to him. I think he's probably too attacking to replace Herrera, unless we are changing the system.
I think he could, but I also think we'd be have to adjust tactically. For example under Pep, Bernardo Silva, David Silva and De Bruyne all can play in a midfield 3 for City, but I think if you bring them under a different manager or a different team it might be more difficult to make effective in CM rather than having them as a no.10Anyone think he could work as a midfielder in 3 man midfield ?
For a pure 10, doesn't make sense to spend 60-70 m when we have better options available.
It's not only about scouting but the philosophy/structure of how the club will use it's own player development and transfer policy as it relates to the first team, which then trickles down to the academy.its called scouting, rather than just buying the most hyped players going.
Maddison won't be sold only one of our players I can see leaving is Maguire. Rob Dorset on the Sky transfer pod said he thought we would turn down £100m for Maddison
These are the types of questions the club should be asking themselves because it explains why we have had such a bad recruitment policy in recent years buying players for the sake of it.Anyone think he could work as a midfielder in 3 man midfield ?
For a pure 10, doesn't make sense to spend 60-70 m when we have better options available.
I agree. Would be a good start if we want to press like a unit.Thanks, I was under the same impression. If anything they could both be options to entertain.
Thats where he played in the 2nd half of the season for Leicester. They dropped Mendy out and put Ndidi back to DM, with Maddison and Tielemans playing in front of himAnyone think he could work as a midfielder in 3 man midfield ?
For a pure 10, doesn't make sense to spend 60-70 m when we have better options available.
scouting infrastructure yes that has been in place for years but Claude Puel completely changed how the side played, he just wasn't effective at getting what he wants, Rodgers did the same but actually got through to the players so he didn't simply slot in to a well established system of playIt's not only about scouting but the philosophy/structure of how the club will use it's own player development and transfer policy as it relates to the first team, which then trickles down to the academy.
That's why Leicester has been able to move managers in an out the past few years and still be competitive. Maddison was able to slot in relatively well because there was structure on and off the pitch for him to succeed. In addition to patience for him to develop at the club and in the first team. Compared to United, it's not the same and yet he'll still need to up his mentality and performances for any club above Leicester.
If we want to be at the same level as City, Liverpool, Barca, Madrid, Juventus, Bayern, PSG, etc... Then, we would need someone better than Maddison as false 9. IMO Griezmann, Felix, Dybala, Havertz are better than him.If we sign him and keep Pogba, I'd play like this:
Martial---Maddison---Rashford
-----Pogba-------#8-------------
-------------DM------------------
I think Maddison has everything necessary to be a very good false 9 and our strikers are better at running in on goal than any of the back to goal or poaching stuff anyways.
His stamina is a weakness and his running stats are poor. Can’t see why Ole would be looking at him given the way he supposedly wants us to play.I totally agree, the attacking specialists need to be of genuine top quality and it's totally worth it to accommodate them, the others can be jacks of all trades, masters of none. From a technical and creative standpoint Maddison looks like a potential top PL player but it would be good if his fee reflected the doubts that surround him.
Most likely as a replacement for someone with similar issuesHis stamina is a weakness and his running stats are poor. Can’t see why Ole would be looking at him given the way he supposedly wants us to play.
His running stats are similar to he who shall not be named.Most likely as a replacement for someone with similar issues
I'm not surprised but his wages and transfer fee wouldnt be.His running stats are similar to he who shall not be named.
Stamina is a workable attribute, as long as the player is dedicated to training and improving, the staff can fix that relatively quickly during the first months of the preseason/season.His stamina is a weakness and his running stats are poor. Can’t see why Ole would be looking at him given the way he supposedly wants us to play.
Ole did say he wants an early start to pre-season to work on fitness and conditioning. I expect that to be the case for new signings but also the returning squad members too, there was talk of personal conditioning plans being given to the squad at the end of the season with instructions to show up in shape or forget about being in the first team squad.Stamina is a workable attribute, as long as the player is dedicated to training and improving the staff can fix that relatively quickly during the first months of the preseason/season.
Wouldn’t even remotely be worth it.I'm not surprised but his wages and transfer fee wouldnt be.
Less ego, helping to fix our wages and more money to spend on transfers whilst adding a top quality British player into the core of the side? I'd do it in a heartbeat. Not as good a player but better for the squadWouldn’t even remotely be worth it.
He aint half the player Pogba or even Bruno is. And he would cost a bomb.Less ego, helping to fix our wages and more money to spend on transfers whilst adding a top quality British player into the core of the side? I'd do it in a heartbeat. Not as good a player but better for the squad
Still, if Leicester would do a swap deal that involved Lingard we'd have a very good option from the bench at least.Not convinced he could be the hub of a title winning team. But he did very well in his first PL season and could make a big step up.