Jamie Vardy's Extraordinary Record against the Premier League Top 6

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Why only mention Ronaldo when his record is better than Torres and Hazard too.

 

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I dont think Ronaldo is United's goat reduced to his time here only, but besides goals, Ronaldo had different qualities to scoring only and performed on different stages when he was here
 

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Few Ronaldo fans already being butthurt and mentioning Ronaldo's career in general and ignoring the simple Vardy-Ronaldo PL comparision. Should have seen it coming, I am out.
I think it's just that the direct comparison of their PL goals/apps is not really a fair comparison in any way, shape or form...

Ronaldo started playing in the PL as an 18 year old winger (with many many sub appearances in his first few seasons) and didn't really start to playing as a forward until his last 3 seasons at the club. So if you're going to compare their goalscoring records then think about the context first, otherwise you come across as not really presenting a very valid point on a Utd forum...

Discarding Ronaldo's record as a teenage winger and discarding Vardys first PL season when he was adapting to the step up (scored 5 in 34 games) you get:

Vardy - 149 games, 80 goals - 0.53 per game
Ronaldo - 101 games, 66 goals - 0.65 per game
 

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I think it's just that the direct comparison of their PL goals/apps is not really a fair comparison in any way, shape or form...

Ronaldo started playing in the PL as an 18 year old winger (with many many sub appearances in his first few seasons) and didn't really start to playing as a forward until his last 3 seasons at the club. So if you're going to compare their goalscoring records then think about the context first, otherwise you come across as not really presenting a very valid point on a Utd forum...

Discarding Ronaldo's record as a teenage winger and discarding Vardys first PL season when he was adapting to the step up (scored 5 in 34 games) you get:

Vardy - 149 games, 80 goals - 0.53 per game
Ronaldo - 101 games, 66 goals - 0.65 per game
Ronaldo was playing for you lot when you were at your most dominant, so either way it's damn impressive Vardy's stats are even close
 

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Ronaldo was playing for you lot when you were at your most dominant, so either way it's damn impressive Vardy's stats are even close
Sorry I'm not denying that Vardy is very good! That above stat that the guy posted I think is a great demonstration of Vardy's longevity at the top level, which has probably surpassed even Leicester fans expectations after his breakthrough season?

It's just using that stat to suggest Vardy is a better PL player than Ronaldo was, is laughable.
 

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Sorry I'm not denying that Vardy is very good! That above stat that the guy posted I think is a great demonstration of Vardy's longevity at the top level, which has probably surpassed even Leicester fans expectations after his breakthrough season?

It's just using that stat to suggest Vardy is a better PL player than Ronaldo was, is laughable.
I don't think anyone has seriously suggested that
 

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Very impressive. Detestable mug and personality from what I've seen but huge respect for coming up through non football leagues the way he did. Inspirational.
 

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Vardy would have been a legend at OT, I'd have swapped him for Rashford and Martial (yes both for one player) in a hearbeat.
 

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cheers, that'll annoy a few Chelsea/Liverpool fans I know
It's not that impressive a comparison. Torres scored 65 league goals for Liverpool. He will have taken years to get his next 20. I am astonished he even managed 20 league goals for Chelsea.

Edit: he managed exactly 20 league goals for them. Took him four years to get there.
 

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Might be the worst trade of all time.
At least we'd get a player actually good enough to play for the club - a proper striker - instead of continuously pretending the 'potential' of Rashford and Martial will eventually come through - it won't.
 

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cheers, that'll annoy a few Chelsea/Liverpool fans I know
No, not really. I was even contemplating buying a Vardy - jersey.
He is great and I admire him that he made the best of his abilities and pushed himself to a level no-one would have expected from him.

Vardy would have been a legend at OT, I'd have swapped him for Rashford and Martial (yes both for one player) in a hearbeat.
I am actually not sure whether Vardy would have shown the same level at a big club. There are players like Bent, Defoe that flourish only under certain circumstances. I doubt that he would have felt as comfortable at at a big club.
 

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I really dislike Vardy but you can't ignore his record - he is a proper top level Premiership striker and better than most in the league as much as I hate to say it.
 

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And shown Rashford how to do it.
At 21, Vardy was on 30 quid a week at Stocksbridge Park Steels. I mean, we're all on Rashford's side, right? We want him to succeed, yes? This place makes me want to kick stuff sometimes.
 
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At 21, Vardy was on 30 quid a week at Stocksbridge Park Steels. I mean, we're all on Rashford's side, right? We want him to succeed, yes? This place makes me want to kick stuff sometimes.
I am 100% behind behind Rashford, and the stick he gets on here is outlandish - and I wish those ‘fans’ who lay into him would go off and support some other team.

However, I don’t think the point was to compare Rashford and Vardy at ages 22, as clearly they are vastly different, quite frankly incomparable. But Vardy in his 30’s could definitely assist a player like Rashford (here and now). He has elements of play he needs to improve on, and will continue to be inconsistent whilst he reaches maturity.

We are very lucky to him, and unlucky to have some of these so called fans.
 

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Fast, counter-attacking strikers normally do better against top-clubs so it's no surprise that Vardy and Rashford have a very good record against the best clubs.
 

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Vardy's record against the big six is indicative of our record under Ole against the better teams. Vardy and United only really function well on the counter and the bigger teams generally will take the game to you and, when you have pace, there will always be opportunities in behind. He would have been a great signing for the style Ole wants to play but that ship has sailed and Leicester have already fleeced us once recently.
 

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Premier League: 32 goals in 121 appearances, 11 against the top six (34%)
1 in 4 for a youth player used to be a fantastic return, especially considering most of his career has been switching positions. Have more respect for this lad every season.
 

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Vardy's record against the big six is indicative of our record under Ole against the better teams. Vardy and United only really function well on the counter and the bigger teams generally will take the game to you and, when you have pace, there will always be opportunities in behind. He would have been a great signing for the style Ole wants to play but that ship has sailed and Leicester have already fleeced us once recently.
Vardy looks like he will finish his career at Leicester, he is loved by the fans and the team play to suit his style. He never looked great playing for England where he didn't get a lot of service.

I'm sorry that you think Leicester fleeced you but happy if you don't want to deal with us anymore.
 
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Vardy looks like he will finish his career at Leicester, he is loved by the fans and the team play to suit his style. He never looked great playing for England where he didn't get a lot of service.

I'm sorry that you think Leicester fleeced you but happy if you don't want to deal with us anymore.
Yh agreed, he had that move to Arsenal a few years back that seemed close and, rightly, chose not to make that move. I think he'll finish his career with you as well.

Leicester definitely came out satisfied with the Maguire transfer from what I could tell, it's a positive for your club because it just shows you are financially strong enough to hold onto players unless your price is reached. I've always wanted Ndidi more than any other Leicester player but just can't see that one happening.
 

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Vardy would fit into Ole's system much better than Kane. There, I've said it
For one year maybe. He's 33 in January.


That's what people need to bear in mind when judging young players like Rashford - there's a lot of experience that separates them.


Vardy wouldn't have reached 85 goals that quickly if he started his career in the PL in his earlier I bet
 

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Yh agreed, he had that move to Arsenal a few years back that seemed close and, rightly, chose not to make that move. I think he'll finish his career with you as well.

Leicester definitely came out satisfied with the Maguire transfer from what I could tell, it's a positive for your club because it just shows you are financially strong enough to hold onto players unless your price is reached. I've always wanted Ndidi more than any other Leicester player but just can't see that one happening.
Leicester were fortunate that Vardy turned down Arsenal to stay at Leicester but we are now facing the problem of what we do when he hangs em up. We really don't have a replacement ready to go, we bought Iheanacho from Man C but he hasn't proven himself yet. As you know very well, top notch strikers are hard to come by.
We were lucky with Maguire in that we had bought Soyuncu the previous Summer & he has played well. Mind you,I still like Maguire & think he looks good in your back line.
 

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Vardy is underrated because apart from scoring, he works very hard for the team. Other good goalscorers simply stop when their team loses possession - leaving their team with 10 players. Vardy doesn't.
 

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He's one of the best strikers in the league. If Martial or Rashford reaches his levels i'd be happy
 

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He's one of the best strikers in the league. If Martial or Rashford reaches his levels i'd be happy
Very much so. He's absolutely brilliant. Not many strikers give you that sense of "he'll score" each game