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Control, Rhythm Nation, Janet and Velvet Rope probably the best consecutive album run in the last 30 years.

Doesn't get her due as much as she should, imo.
 

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One of the worst things I've ever heard
 

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Together Again was a bit of a banger to be fair.
 

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Presumed she was dead when I saw this thread.
 

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Control, Rhythm Nation, Janet and Velvet Rope probably the best consecutive album run in the last 30 years.

Doesn't get her due as much as she should, imo.
Disagree on the first.
Agree on the second.

Also it's clear that she was the inspiration for Britney, not Madonna - not even close.
Finally, Justin Timberlake is a cnut.
 

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Disagree on the first.
Agree on the second.

Also it's clear that she was the inspiration for Britney, not Madonna - not even close.
Finally, Justin Timberlake is a cnut.
That's the thing. The whole military-rigid single dancer in front of the diamond formation of backup dancers routine was pioneered by Michael. Janet got that from his influence on her and very likely Britney drew from Janet in that regard, for sure.

Perhaps, but FutureSex/LoveSounds is still a great album all the same. :lol:
 

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That's the thing. The whole military-rigid single dancer in front of the diamond formation of backup dancers routine was pioneered by Michael. Janet got that from his influence on her and very likely Britney drew from Janet in that regard, for sure.

Perhaps, but FutureSex/LoveSounds is still a great album all the same. :lol:
She's done well to forge a career out of Michael's shadow tbf, pretty much every other sibling of artists less successful than Michael, have managed a lot worse than she has.

His albums are great, but that's mainly because of Timberland or Pharrell producing them, or a rapper being featured on one of the verses. He's nothing special by himself.
But I'm a big fan of both Pharrell & Timbo so I do listen to some of his songs occasionally, shamefully. :lol:

He is a big reason behind your second point btw, about her not receiving as much credit as she should - after the Superbowl incident she was blacklisted and Timberlake did nothing to accept fault, or stand up for her, even though he was the one who pushed to do the 'stunt' in the first place. Like I said, a cnut.
 

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Also, everyone knows Mariah, Whitney, Shania, and Celine all had better four-album runs.
All of the above artists didn't have classic four-album runs. They had great albums in-between good albums. Janet had four straight albums with critical acclaim.

I mean, are you really including Butterfly by Mariah? I had that album. Enjoyable, but not close to Emotions, or Daydream, for example.
 

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Really? Why bro?
I think it's one of her best songs ever. Janet slow singing over a Joni Mitchell hook with rapping from Mos-Def.
I just remembered why I don't read the hip hop threads on here anymore.
 

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All of the above artists didn't have classic four-album runs. They had great albums in-between good albums. Janet had four straight albums with critical acclaim.

I mean, are you really including Butterfly by Mariah? I had that album. Enjoyable, but not close to Emotions, or Daydream, for example.
First of all, just teasing.

But regarding the bolded part: holy mother of god of course not. You know better than that.

Mariah Carey, Emotions, Music Box, (Merry Christmas), and Daydream.

Whitney Houston, Whitney, I'm Your Baby Tonight, and I personally think My Love is Your Love misses out but it sold quite well.

Celine Dion, Colour of My Love, and then the two mega ones.

Shania Twain, Woman in Me, Come on Over and then Up!

Now I'm kind of curious which ones stand out as the great ones for you though.
 
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Really? Why bro?
I think it's one of her best songs ever. Janet slow singing over a Joni Mitchell hook with rapping from Mos-Def.
Ah it's not so bad I guess, but I'd be a big fan of Joni Mitchell and hearing that remix was a bit jarring - and then the 'Joni Mitchell never lie' part was enough for me.
 

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Ah it's not so bad I guess, but I'd be a big fan of Joni Mitchell and hearing that remix was a bit jarring - and then the 'Joni Mitchell never lie' part was enough for me.
Reminds me of the young singer - I can't remember who - right around the Santanaissance who unironically(?) asked Carlos Santana if he would be in her backing band.
 

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First of all, just teasing.

But regarding the bolded part: holy mother of god of course not. You know better than that.

Mariah Carey, Emotions, Music Box, (Merry Christmas), and Daydream.

Whitney Houston, Whitney, I'm Your Baby Tonight, and I personally think My Love is Your Love misses out but it sold quite well.

Celine Dion, Colour of My Love, and then the two mega ones.

Shania Twain, Woman in Me, Come on Over and then Up!

Now I'm kind of curious which ones stand out as the great ones for you though.
Bolded. I realise there's going to be some subjective rating here, but from what I recall regarding critical acclaim, those bolded albums received praise for being completely great albums from beginning to end.
 

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Bolded. I realise there's going to be some subjective rating here, but from what I recall regarding critical acclaim, those bolded albums received praise for being completely great albums from beginning to end.
I totally see where you're coming from.

(also, I think you might just be a Jimmy Jam/Terry Lewis fan like i think you posted once. I kid)

Have you seen this?
 

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What I love about Janet was all the hard work and effort she put into those classic albums, and videos and tours. In between them she would vanish. There would be the rare paparazzi photo here and there but when it was time to release an album she would be in touring shape and they were full on complete albums not only a single here and there.

A sibling emerging from a Michael Jackson shadow should have been impossible. But, she had the talent and creativity and drive to make it happen. The other siblings all tried here and there and never got anywhere. She deserves to have her legacy about more than the Superbowl mistake. She was never a stunt queen and she was absolutely shunned for that one mistake while Justin just walked on by.
 

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What I love about Janet was all the hard work and effort she put into those classic albums, and videos and tours. In between them she would vanish. There would be the rare paparazzi photo here and there but when it was time to release an album she would be in touring shape and they were full on complete albums not only a single here and there.

A sibling emerging from a Michael Jackson shadow should have been impossible. But, she had the talent and creativity and drive to make it happen. The other siblings all tried here and there and never got anywhere. She deserves to have her legacy about more than the Superbowl mistake. She was never a stunt queen and she was absolutely shunned for that one mistake while Justin just walked on by.
Agreed. She made her own lane which was fecking difficult. Underrated artist who should be up there with the Mariah’s, Whitney’s etc
 

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Shakin' that thing like you never did see
Got a nice package alright
Guess I'm gonna have to ride it tonight
 

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After coming across this thread, I started reading a bit about Janet and after the Superbowl controversy, it seemed like a lot of stations and broadcasters started boycotting her music and not giving her any air time and Disney even removed a statue of her from Disneyland or something like that... yet Justin Timberlake, the one who actually pulled off her bra, gets off without even a slap on the wrist?

How was this allowed to happen?
 

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After coming across this thread, I started reading a bit about Janet and after the Superbowl controversy, it seemed like a lot of stations and broadcasters started boycotting her music and not giving her any air time and Disney even removed a statue of her from Disneyland or something like that... yet Justin Timberlake, the one who actually pulled off her bra, gets off without even a slap on the wrist?

How was this allowed to happen?
I think because the stitching on the bra wasn't very strong.
 

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After coming across this thread, I started reading a bit about Janet and after the Superbowl controversy, it seemed like a lot of stations and broadcasters started boycotting her music and not giving her any air time and Disney even removed a statue of her from Disneyland or something like that... yet Justin Timberlake, the one who actually pulled off her bra, gets off without even a slap on the wrist?

How was this allowed to happen?
Sexism largely.
If it wasn't for that incident & getting blacklisted, I think she would be spoken about in the same breath as someone like Madonna, personally.
Timberlake is forever a cnut, not just for this but what he did to Britney too.
 

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Sexism largely.
If it wasn't for that incident & getting blacklisted, I think she would be spoken about in the same breath as someone like Madonna, personally.
Timberlake is forever a cnut, not just for this but what he did to Britney too.
Yeah. And the B.S. with Superbowl also negatively affected his N*Sync band mates promotion too.