Unreliable, inconsistent. Ship him off.
Javier Hernandez | 2010/11 Performances
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Needs to bulk up if he has any chance of scoring on a cold night at Stoke.
Ok, ok, stop it, only the first post was funny, now it's annoying.
Mexico play their quarterfinal on Saturday, with the third team from group B or C (will be decided tommorow).
Mexico play their quarterfinal on Saturday, with the third team from group B or C (will be decided tommorow).
I bet he was involved in all four goals, wasn't he? Wasn't he?!
He is beautiful. I love him.
He is beautiful. I love him.
It's like everyone in Mexico has three teams - the national side, their own side and Manchester United.Bet other sides hate us having Hernandez, considering it's impossible not to like him, or atleast admire the way he plays the game and the spirit he plays it with.
Hernandez progress has been exceptional so far and I suspect many feel he needs to continue his rapid progress. I believe that next year contrary to many peoples opinions that he will be found out - he will add more strings to his bow - I don't know how many goals he will score but he will become more of a threat as he becomes more than just a goal poacher.
He looks like some sort of overgrown 4 year old on his birthday every time he scores. It's amazing.
Bet other sides hate us having Hernandez, considering it's impossible not to like him, or atleast admire the way he plays the game and the spirit he plays it with.
I agree. IMO, a player who relies on quick movement behind the defenders and that instinct of being in the right place can't be 'found out' in the same sense that a tricky winger can be. Maybe his goal tally will decrease due to defending teams dropping deeper to protect themselves against balls over the top, but that will leave space between the defence and midfield to exploit. People who see this will not perceive it as Hernandez being found out, but rather that his movement creates space for his team mates.
not all of his goals were due to him being fast over the top
Look at his collection of goals, headers, flicks, shots. They are all about his quality at finding space and his clever movement. Actually very few of them were from him using his pace to run onto a ball over the top
Doesn't matter how deep teams defend, he will always find space, as long as the others find him then he will get goals
Look at his collection of goals, headers, flicks, shots. They are all about his quality at finding space and his clever movement. Actually very few of them were from him using his pace to run onto a ball over the top
Doesn't matter how deep teams defend, he will always find space, as long as the others find him then he will get goals
This.
I really don't understand this idea about him being "found out" as if the top teams don't all study videos of the opposition in advance of playing them. When Chico scored against Spain do people think that they'd somehow forgotten to watch him scoring against Argentina, France and Holland?
Or when he scored against Chelsea for the 3rd time this season in the Premier League game do people think that they hadn't studied his movement from him scoring against them in Champions League and the Community Shield?
World class strikers, and thats what he is (if he's not name me all the strikers in the world with better records than him domestically and internationally?), don't get "found out". Did Ruud, Ole, Yorkie, Coley, Cantona etc get "found out"? Chico's likely to score more goals next year not less...
...though he did miss two sitters in the Costa Rica game last night.
Not that I'm disagreeing but Cole and Yorke certainly got found out to some extent.This.
I really don't understand this idea about him being "found out" as if the top teams don't all study videos of the opposition in advance of playing them. When Chico scored against Spain do people think that they'd somehow forgotten to watch him scoring against Argentina, France and Holland?
Or when he scored against Chelsea for the 3rd time this season in the Premier League game do people think that they hadn't studied his movement from him scoring against them in Champions League and the Community Shield?
World class strikers, and thats what he is (if he's not name me all the strikers in the world with better records than him domestically and internationally?), don't get "found out". Did Ruud, Ole, Yorkie, Coley, Cantona etc get "found out"? Chico's likely to score more goals next year not less...
...though he did miss two sitters in the Costa Rica game last night.
The only caveat to playing Chico is that he isn't the best on the ball outside the box and so I can see us having to be more technical and refined in midfield to offset that weakness.
Cole was still banging them in at Fulham at 35 mate and Yorke he didn't get found out he found glamour models...
Chico's all round game is better than he's given credit for and he is improving again last night in the Mexico game he showed a deft touch in the build up to the first Guardado goal and as I've said before he's been showing an increased amount of composure on the ball. That comes with confidence, the more assured he becomes playing with United as playing with Mexico the more rounded a player I think we'll see.
He'll become a 14gend.
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Or alternatively they'll just throw a hissy fit and moan that we need a new striker
I do think Hernandez is likely to find it a little tougher next season, although that won't stop him from scoring goals. No matter how well a team plans how to deal with him, his pace, movement and finishing ability means that given the right situation there's not a whole lot a defender can do differently.
I expect teams to try and use their offside trap to nullify him like Barcelona did - in some cases this will probably work, but in some others they'll probably get it wrong and leave him with some golden chances. I also expect him to be subject to a fair share of rough tackles next season, as teams try to soften his resolve. He'll be a far greater focus of attention next season, but I back him to be resilient in the face of any new challenges.
At some point he will hit a drought though, as all strikers do, and that's the time we need to repay his efforts with our support. Despite my opening line in this post I do think he'll get that.
On a slightly different note, does anyone else think he looks like a man when playing for Mexico, but still looks like a boy when playing for United?
14 genders. He's an alien!
His first goal against Costa Rica was remarkable.
No he's not he has papers...
It's quite annoying, as you can imagine.
Bet other sides hate us having Hernandez, considering it's impossible not to like him, or atleast admire the way he plays the game and the spirit he plays it with.
Yeah, I like Guardado too. I think he'd probably be playing at a higher level now if it wasn't for past injury problems. There are some rumours that he might be moving to Zaragoza to join up with Javi Aguirre who's manager there now, although considering how Aguirre used him in the world cup I don't think I'd be too quick to get back working with him!
Definately more at home playing for Mexico. Much bigger presence. For example Chico's touch doesn't tend to fail him as much playing for El Tri as it does playing for United, which is why I am confident in future improvement from him. The rough edges we've seen in his game this season I attribute as much to unfamiliarity and pressure more than him lacking in ability. He's visibly a more confident player for his country but it was a massive step coming from the Mexican league to the Premier League so thats to be expected, nai? Now he's established himself I expect him to go from strength to strength.Or alternatively they'll just throw a hissy fit and moan that we need a new striker
I do think Hernandez is likely to find it a little tougher next season, although that won't stop him from scoring goals. No matter how well a team plans how to deal with him, his pace, movement and finishing ability means that given the right situation there's not a whole lot a defender can do differently.
I expect teams to try and use their offside trap to nullify him like Barcelona did - in some cases this will probably work, but in some others they'll probably get it wrong and leave him with some golden chances. I also expect him to be subject to a fair share of rough tackles next season, as teams try to soften his resolve. He'll be a far greater focus of attention next season, but I back him to be resilient in the face of any new challenges.
At some point he will hit a drought though, as all strikers do, and that's the time we need to repay his efforts with our support. Despite my opening line in this post I do think he'll get that.
On a slightly different note, does anyone else think he looks like a man when playing for Mexico, but still looks like a boy when playing for United?
I'm making a prediction now:30 goals in all competitions next year, at least.
Movemend behind defenders is not just about long balls over the top. I said that's what defending teams may adjust to try to protect themselves from him (or one aspect of his game, more like), but movement in behind defenders and instinct of being in the right place is just as much about sneaking up on the back post, like against Chelsea, Marseille and Everton behind the defender, or do a darting run ahead of his defender (the flick against Stoke), which was what I meant with the first thing I said.
Having had no idea that Mexico qualify for the Copa America does that mean Hernandez is going to go from playing in this Gold Cup straight to the Copa America?
He's going to be fecked if that's the case, as it is I wasn't expecting him to start the season but that just takes the piss!
He's going to be fecked if that's the case, as it is I wasn't expecting him to start the season but that just takes the piss!
I'm not sure if it's confirmed but I read that he would not be playing in the Copa America.
He's definitely not. They're taking an U-23 squad or something.
Well taken goal.
U-22 + 3 players to strenghthen the squad (they have been wasted). The manager won't be the same, too, so we're kind of fecked. Hernández is not going.
The lad is surreal, he's always there at the right time. What a talent we've unearthed... Wow 
What just the one goal this time?
Mexico will win the Gold Cup with Hernandez in the side.
Nice and cheeky.
So 6 in 4 in Gold Cup so far and México through to the Semis
So 6 in 4 in Gold Cup so far and México through to the Semis
Just one goal versus fecking Guatemala.
He's shite, isn't he?
He's shite, isn't he?
It doesn't matter how the ball comes to him he always seems to find the net with it. Ridiculous talent.
He did well for the scraps he got. The meixo midfielers want to dribble or shoot too much - was a good game to watch but guardao fecking shot or hit his crosses long.
Chicha was making excellent runs all match he must have some patience playing with the mexican midfielders.
Chicha was making excellent runs all match he must have some patience playing with the mexican midfielders.
His interview with L'Equipe:
Thanks for that mate. Very good reading. Chicho's the real deal, eh? I remember when Henry scored a backheel goal some years back and the press pack went wild over it. Chico's got two this year what say you now "experts"? So amusing to think back to the underwhelming response that greeted Chico's signing and the continued flat press that his goals were getting until spring.
And he owes it all to a wet Wednesday in Stoke
Stoke away, the true benchmark. We've been saying it all along.
Some people are mentioning the second season syndrome, but as long as there's a midfield to supply him with balls, I can't see him stop scoring.
Some people are mentioning the second season syndrome, but as long as there's a midfield to supply him with balls, I can't see him stop scoring.
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