The members aren't on Angela Eagle's side though.
Jeremy Corbyn - Not Not Labour Party(?), not a Communist (BBC)
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No, he sees the party in severe danger of breaking up and ceasing to exist if something doesn't change soon. I imagine he's quite fond of it, given he previously saved it from death only 30 years back.
true.
I'm sure he is but in this case it is only the action of the PLP that has created a need to split.
If Corbyn had enforced extreme policy decisions I could understand their actions. As it is they're trying to maneuver control of the party using the argument of electability and oh the Brexit vote.
They could have stood united with Corbyn and built something but they had no interest in doing so with him in charge. The battle to maintain Labour's centre leaning is more important to them.
centre leaning and doing feck all.
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Illuminati confirmed.
It was all that centre leaning ,especially towards those fickle ,"i'm alright jack" Tory voters that made Labour lose touch with the core supporters.
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http://www.theguardian.com/politics...ey-plays-peacemaker-between-corbyn-and-watson
It's just a political party ffs.
It's just a political party ffs.
Since this is the main Labour thread - http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ent...nce-eu-referendum_uk_577be9e8e4b073366f0fe97f
Chilcot Report Released
So, 11am this morn.. if there has been some grand conspiracy to oust before Chilcot is released, it's failed. Looking forward to see if he comments on it as the details get sifted over the coming days.
Speaking now.
Surely has significantly strengthened his position today?
How? If he really wants his history in foreign policy to be dragged out front and centre of the debate about him, he's not going to come out of it well.
Neither is Labour, and Iraq is a slightly more topical story than Eastern Europe.
JC did well in PMQs today too. He seems to be doing better now that a large part of the PLP have decided to stop doing their jobs. I suspect he might have been getting 'bad advices' as Arnie would put it.
I think the failed coup is showing that for all of Corbyn's blind incompetence (and there's a lot of it), the supposed more sensible, moderate figures within the party are also incredibly incompetent. Incompetent on a similar level to Corbyn himself, despite many of them having more frontline experience. Which should be evidenced by the fact that the last two leaders before Corbyn were both sort of incompetent in their own right.
I also think it's going to be hard for them to oust him now in favour of a candidate who hasn't put their name forward yet. I'd find it just a tad difficult to believe someone wants to be PM when they've already turned down two opportunities within the past year.
I also think it's going to be hard for them to oust him now in favour of a candidate who hasn't put their name forward yet. I'd find it just a tad difficult to believe someone wants to be PM when they've already turned down two opportunities within the past year.
Corbyn certainly has strengthened his own position.
Maybe. Also I don't know how much truth is in this but on that Vice doc Seamus Milne(Corbyn strategist ?)had said someone was leaking Corbyn questions to the Tories. Can't of helped(If it's true)
You are correct, Labour as a whole has reached a state of critical incompetence. That's clear in Scotland, it would be clear in Wales if there was any opposition worthy of the name, and it's clear in Westminster. The PLP is dismissive of the membership, and the membership is dismissive of the public. The NEC is now studied using a kind of Kremlinology, tallying up which members are pro-Corbyn and which are anti-, and that's the stage where it's likely to be decided whether Corbyn is or isn't on a leadership ballot. None of it works, and hasn't been working for many years now, but it continues to lumber on partly because of the romanticism of past achievements, partly because of the stark electoral reality that it would face if starting afresh.
Think we better get used to the idea of a fair few years of May.
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Okay, I can officially now give up all hope.
Good speech
The chap who made that Vice documentary said that he never saw a single member of the PLP anywhere near Corbyn or his offices. I think it is fair to say that neither side were interested in working together.
I'd say the party membership growing to be about 1% of the population of the entire country is a reason for some hope.
Awesome speech. I agree with him completely.
It's okay comrade when we take power you will be forced to have hope.
There's still this
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Although I image the tweet you posted is right as any Labour voters who don't like Corbyn will just simply vote for other party(Lib Dems or maybe the Tories)rather than becoming a member to vote in a leadership race.
Me for example.
Edit: it's not that I don't like Corbyn, it's just that the party is doomed. I actually do like him.
Is the party being doomed not about how you perceive his electability?
He still has to go. Purely, because the situation just isn't tenable. I do really like the guy though, and have the utmost respect for him. Disappointed that he didn't lead a strong campaign to keep Britain in the EU, but I think in the grand scheme of things, this doesn't tarnish my opinion of him much.
Whilst it's impossible to put a definite figure on it, using random samples I imagine you can get a pretty good idea. At the same time it may also be a lot of membership renewals going through, as it was at about this point last year that the membership really began to surge with Corbmentum (original tweet says "applications" rather than confirmed new individual members).
But in general, looking at whatever bits of qualitative evidence there is around, I don't see enough turning against him for anything to come of it. My own CLP branch, for instance, emailed demanding an emergency meeting earlier this week to express its undying support.
Shame. Many more years of Conservatives doing whatever they please with that pointless hippy at the helm of the supposed opposition.
My town has always been one for Labour. Huge numbers of people locally are signing up and paying the monthly subscription in support of Corbyn. I must have counted 20+ comment on my own Mum's facebook status about it saying they had joined.
Cracked me up.
If Corbyn ever became significant to the Tories, Murdoch could sink him forever in a week.
Aye the tories must be relieved they won't have to face the strength of the mighty Angela Eagle.