Simply quoting the labour friends of Palestine (of which corbyn is a member) who proposed ending Israeli occupation with a final solution and pointing out that the lefts messaging on antisemitism has been at best clumsy though disingenuous bordering on inflamitory would seem a better fit ... including corbyns faux apology
Its incredible that you're allowed to get away with posting this shit all the time
I think you know exactly what I mean. But it's a waste of time arguing with a seasoned troll.
Careful, you don't want Niall to have to deal with slander and libel. You are not so subtly accusing a national political figure of wanting to genocide the Jews. You're usually so worried about slander and libel, after all.
I'm accusing him of being a member of a group who has publicly called for that already actually... even though that's notbwhat they actually meant but they and him are just that shit at public messaging
So in the second part of this sentence you admit that they didn't mean it, but in the first part of the sentence you say you are accusing him of supporting "that" (i.e. Jewish genocide)? You're not exactly a public messaging expert yourself.
I've never known anyone misjudge content as much as you do. Seriously, find a more appropriate tone.
If you think this car crash of a post justifies your talk of a final solution in your previous post then you are deluded. Totally inappropriate.Simply quoting the labour friends of Palestine (of which corbyn is a member) who proposed ending Israeli occupation with a final solution and pointing out that the lefts messaging on antisemitism has been at best clumsy though disingenuous bordering on inflamitory would seem a better fit ... including corbyns faux apology
Nonsensical post, considering Corbyn campaigned for remain and also a second referendum at the 2019 GE if you recall. At which point remain was never going to happen otherwise the Liberal Democrats wouldn't have withered and died.
Right, who could forget Corbyn's spirited and relentless campaign for Remain in the referendum
or the way he decisively formulated Labour's 2019 EU policy, almost as if he hadn't tried to prevent debate on a second referendum at the party conference at all. You're in denial, but I'm happy for you to keep drawing attention to it.Yeah, I should let it lie sorry, it was just the recent stuff about the UK still having to follow EU rules and not being allowed to subsidise industry that reminded me, as it kind of made the Labour Left's traditional opposition to the EU somewhat pointless. I suppose it's very much the old Left anyway, they're a dwindling band nowadays.
Not sure how many expected Tory Brexit to ever do anything else which is probably why Corbyn grudgingly campaigned for remain in 2016.
Right, who could forget Corbyn's spirited and relentless campaign for Remain in the referendum
Clarity of message on Brexit is not an abiding memory of Corbyn's leadership.I've never got this. I didn't find the position confusing at all but clearly I'm in a minority.
Not at the end, it made sense at the end (in terms of what he was offering the electorate), but up until then it was hard to pin down what he thought.
Really? How long did it take Labour to formulate an official policy on a second referendum? You know Corbyn not saying how he voted and not giving a view on the biggest issue facing the country gave Johnson an open goal in the debates.
Yes, really.
Nuanced position? That's one way of describing it. Even sympathetic papers like the Guardian couldn't figure out his stance, so clearly it was too "nuanced" for its own good. It took him three years to decide to back a second referendum as well and he had to be dragged to that position. I didn't vote for Corbyn and I'm making no claims about Labour's Brexit position I didn't make at the time. I am surprised that you would claim the Guardian is a Corbyn sympathetic paper.
I guess it's just for historical record now, but it's remarkable that Corbyn's supporters are now claiming he handled Brexit well. I don't like sloganeering politics any more than you do, but a party leader has to be mindful of the political system they operate in. Johnson's 'get Brexit done' catchphrase was very annoying but way more effective than 'let's discuss anything but Brexit'
The whole situation was, and remains, bullshit.
If it's me you're referring to you've missed the point, I'm not saying Corbyn did terribly in debate I'm saying he was thoroughly dishonest about his own views. Which did make him do terribly in debate to be fair, but that was a consequence not the cause. Maybe I was too nuanced.
Is he going to appeal?
How's that?
Because one can't overstate how unacceptable antisemitism is... or overstate how unacceptable what he let happen to labour was
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Tell me, what's the acceptability level of accusing people of anti-semitism on spurious grounds for political reasons?
Attlee, or Corbyn, do you mean?
Corbyn.
Attlee tried to divert the Empire Windrush to East Africa to avoid black Britons moving to the UK and getting jobs here. So there is that.
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Thoroughly decent human being. That's why he hasn't succeeded as much as he should have.
Absolutely.
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