9/10 rating - Great performance
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
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I'm loving his performances right now.
The absences from the matchday squads is always an obvious indicator that the 'writing is on the wall' for a player if they're fit to play. However, you mention a point which could actually become a true nightmare!
Say whatever you like about me as a United fan, but for the past few games I've actually rushed to the released line-ups just to see whether Lingard has been selected (even on the bench) or not. To my delight, he has been absent. This isn't because I have a vendetta against the guy, it's simply because I know after watching him in the first team for the past five seasons, I know that he is just not good enough to represent Manchester United.
His antics and social media lifestyle annoy the hell out of me, but it is his clear inability as a Premier League footballer that annoys the crap out of me.
I really do fear that Ole will allow Lingard yet another way in. I would expect the cups competitions are the most likely way back into the side, but with only games against potential big sides in the FA Cup and the Europa League all taking place after the domestic season in August, there is no reason for Lingard to appear in a United shirt again.
Please sell Lingard.
About an hour before kick off he was out in his car with a load of 12 year old kids off the street in it. He was just posing for photos etc and letting them sit in his car telling them to rev it up etc... Glad to see he's found people with a similar mind set to hang out with. Also so much for social distancing!
Maybe I'm just getting old and this stuff annoys me now!
He's finished here. Just don't know if it will be a slow death.
Check his Snapchat. Its all on there...
wasn’t he supposed to be watching the game to analyse things and support the team?
He's since added another snap saying that this was from 3 years ago. I assume he was getting a bit of abuse over it, but he might just be trying to cover himself now as the timestamp shows it from today. Either way he needs to grow up and stop.
He's finished here now anyways, so long as we find a buyer.
He is on high wages, circa 100k a week. What lesser club can afford to pay him that?
This is why he'll go abroad and Raiola will manage to get him a pay rise or parity somehow.
The only scenario that see's him still at United next season is if we can't find a buyer and he won't join Rochdale. We will most likely loan him out with an option to buy, surely Inter are interested?
I reckon he will go to Italy as taxes are much lower there
Having this guy out of the starting 11 and not even on the bench feels like a new signing.
Wasn't he Ole's favourite? I mean going by few posters I thought Ole had Lingard's posters in his bedroom.
Since we signed Bruno, Lingard played 2 mins in PL and in most games he didn't even make the bench.
Since we signed Bruno, Lingard played 2 mins in PL and in most games he didn't even make the bench.
It did seem like that in the beginning when he persisted with him for far longer than he should have. Some of those minutes could have been given to Gomes.
I hate to post in the thread of someone who wasn't even in the match squad but I can invision him wearing the Dortmund colours next season. Hopefully as part of the deal to bring Sancho here.
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Had we signed Bruno in the summer then Lingard's mins would have been even less. I think he played as it was choice between him and Pereira. Yeah Gomes should have got few more chances, maybe they thought he wasnt ready and needed time (I don't agree with that, just assuming that might the reason as players like Chong also got mins)
You're underrating Championship now.
The content of your post would suggest otherwise.
I think this is a disgraceful attitude towards a player who, regardless how bad he's played in the last 18 months, has still made significant contributions in his time here (remember the FA Cup final?)
I also hope Lingard is sold, but for his own sake. His confidence is rock-bottom and he needs a chance to reinvent himself. But I think its remarkably small-minded to be worrying about whether Lingard is in the squad (not even the starting 11, the matchday squad!) when there are so many things to be positive about with United right now.
Honestly, check your attitude.
Spot On.
I am pretty sure Jesse knows his days are numbered.
I suppose Dortmund have a reserve team
Why on Earth, BVB would want him? They are easily as good as us if not better. How does it make sense for them to sign Lingard?
Imo as bad as Lingard is, he actually has good physical attributes, a decent first touch and average shooting passing. The only issue with Lingard is he has a slow brain. Imo he may do well in a slower and more space available league like the Bundes. Only potential issue with this deal is his wages though.
Average passing and shooting? Who are you describing? Certainly not a guy who hasn’t had assist or goal for ages because even average players manage that. Look at Delle Alli that’s average and he scored 8 goals. Lingard is below Alli.
Uhh I don't like Alli but his passing and shooting was pretty good. Don't watch him lately though.
Average is the best way I can find to describe Lingard's passing and shooting. It's not bad like Smalling for example. Smalling passing is bad. But it's not any good either so average I think ?
His passing is definitely below average.
You can't compare passing and shooting ability between a CB and attacking midfielder as their responsibilities are completely different.
Lingards passing and shooting ability for a attacking midfielder is below average without a doubt.
I am not for flogging a dead horse! But Jesse Lingard isn't missed one bit.
I really like the fact that he is not the main man (or goal scorer) during this run of good form. I dread seeing Mason Greenwood Dabbing or Milly Rocking.
It is such a relief to see United (ala Greenwood) scoring terrific goals and the celebrations are just simple run back to the touchline (for an equaliser), fist pump or knee slides and team celebrations (like United of the old).
Call me old fashioned (I'm still young, i think) but I really dislike that phase of our goal celebrations where we were becoming like Arsenal where the Goal celebrations were becoming too pompous and grand (with dancing and what not) compared to the number of goals scored/wins/achievements. And I suspect Lingard is a big culprit in improving the dance moves of our players (even Ashley Young started dancing when Lingard scored
).
Not against dancing per se, but leave that for the dressing room, dance floor and night clubs.
I really like the fact that he is not the main man (or goal scorer) during this run of good form. I dread seeing Mason Greenwood Dabbing or Milly Rocking.
It is such a relief to see United (ala Greenwood) scoring terrific goals and the celebrations are just simple run back to the touchline (for an equaliser), fist pump or knee slides and team celebrations (like United of the old).
Call me old fashioned (I'm still young, i think) but I really dislike that phase of our goal celebrations where we were becoming like Arsenal where the Goal celebrations were becoming too pompous and grand (with dancing and what not) compared to the number of goals scored/wins/achievements. And I suspect Lingard is a big culprit in improving the dance moves of our players (even Ashley Young started dancing when Lingard scored
). Not against dancing per se, but leave that for the dressing room, dance floor and night clubs.
He is not just a poor player, his personality is equally annoying. Hence Ole has no use for him anymore. Good riddance
I still think he'll be a good Prem footballer for someone like Palace. Just needs to get his confidence back a bit.
Getting Raiola as an agent might mean he's looking abroad.
It might mean that he wants to weasel as much money as possible from his next club. His talent isn't going to get him that.
He should be looking abroad. A clean slate will help him I reckon. Rock up to another Prem club and hes just going to be known as a Utd reject. And not sure he has the mentality to disprove it like a Butt or Neville.
I still see it as unlikely that Lingard will leave this year, unless he lands a long-term contract with a PL club not too far away in physical distance from Manchester.
I believe Italy is out of the question for many seasons more.
Most likely he'll stay till next summer, hope his extension is triggered as a loyal backup, if not then next summer find a club in the Midlands area willing to sign him on a free.
This due his family obligations that I described in the post below from May.
(That said, as things are now I definitely wouldn't mind if he leaves soon, just seems unlikely to me.)
I believe Italy is out of the question for many seasons more.
Most likely he'll stay till next summer, hope his extension is triggered as a loyal backup, if not then next summer find a club in the Midlands area willing to sign him on a free.
This due his family obligations that I described in the post below from May.
(That said, as things are now I definitely wouldn't mind if he leaves soon, just seems unlikely to me.)
All forgiven if raiola sells him for real money this summer.
My favourite Jesse moment was the moonwalk celebration away at the Emirates with Arsenal fans watching on angrily in the background.I am not for flogging a dead horse! But Jesse Lingard isn't missed one bit.
I really like the fact that he is not the main man (or goal scorer) during this run of good form. I dread seeing Mason Greenwood Dabbing or Milly Rocking.
It is such a relief to see United (ala Greenwood) scoring terrific goals and the celebrations are just simple run back to the touchline (for an equaliser), fist pump or knee slides and team celebrations (like United of the old).
Call me old fashioned (I'm still young, i think) but I really dislike that phase of our goal celebrations where we were becoming like Arsenal where the Goal celebrations were becoming too pompous and grand (with dancing and what not) compared to the number of goals scored/wins/achievements. And I suspect Lingard is a big culprit in improving the dance moves of our players (even Ashley Young started dancing when Lingard scored
Not against dancing per se, but leave that for the dressing room, dance floor and night clubs.
In general I agree with you that I don't care for dancing celebrations but that moment made up for it.
He's being phased out little by little.
Ole gave him chances, he didn't capitalise on it and found himself as backups backup.
Should've been out of the club long time ago, he's nowhere near quality wise to be part of it.
Ole gave him chances, he didn't capitalise on it and found himself as backups backup.
Should've been out of the club long time ago, he's nowhere near quality wise to be part of it.
For sure, he knows it too, hence getting a new agent. He won’t be here much longer.
I'm convinced the only reason he's been kept on for so long is that we didn't have enough fellow academy lads of quality, like Rashford etc to maintain the 1st team ties to the local area. Maybe it was right to keep him on and maybe not but we need to get rid.
I never look at players' snapchat, IG etc but I just saw that car thing is just infantile crap. Local lads are supposed to set a positive culture as a club benchmark, not act like juvenile 12 year olds. Lingard, Ravel, Pogba are hardly role models and we need to walk the talk of creating good human beings. Maybe Pogba is now maturing at the ripe age of 27....
Rashford looks like a good example of doing this right, at least publicly. Fully onboard with Ole when he said we need a change in culture at the club. Bruno is the model professional not just on the pitch but with his personal integrity and character off the pitch too. If everyone was like Bruno just in terms mentality then I reckon we'd be challenging in the top 4 from the beginning of the season.
I never look at players' snapchat, IG etc but I just saw that car thing is just infantile crap. Local lads are supposed to set a positive culture as a club benchmark, not act like juvenile 12 year olds. Lingard, Ravel, Pogba are hardly role models and we need to walk the talk of creating good human beings. Maybe Pogba is now maturing at the ripe age of 27....
Rashford looks like a good example of doing this right, at least publicly. Fully onboard with Ole when he said we need a change in culture at the club. Bruno is the model professional not just on the pitch but with his personal integrity and character off the pitch too. If everyone was like Bruno just in terms mentality then I reckon we'd be challenging in the top 4 from the beginning of the season.
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