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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
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We've gotten into the wrong discussion. The question is not whether he did well against LASK or not (he did ok!).. But do we sell him now, for a bit of money or do we let him go on a free next year - assuming we don't trigger the extension clause.
Is there anyone who's actually suggesting we give Lingard a fresh deal?
Is there anyone who's actually suggesting we give Lingard a fresh deal?
Reading some of the comments post match you'd think some had suggested giving him a new 5 year contract and making him Captain.
A fluke goal due to a keeper error, his first league goal in 18 months, and a goal against the mighty LASK and we've got people in here wanting him to stay and comparing him favourably to Bruno
I feel like people forget just how good he was when he went through that mad run of form of about 9 goals in 2 months (or something), when he’s confident and running at defenders he is excellent!
Ole is making him captain for a reason too, he clearly has leadership credentials and is loved in the team.
He deserves a chance to prove himself, if he carries on like this he will give Bruno a lot of sleepless nights.
Ole is making him captain for a reason too, he clearly has leadership credentials and is loved in the team.
He deserves a chance to prove himself, if he carries on like this he will give Bruno a lot of sleepless nights.
What by shouting Beans through his window? or noisily dabbing?
I hope you guys are joking with the Bruno stuffs here 
If he carries on like this we won't need any new signings. Greenwood won't be the top youngster at the club if we extend Lingards contract.
What’s so controversial?
If he keeps scoring like he has the past two games all would be forgotten. That’s why I said the sky’s the limit.
LASK are a good side too and it’s pretty hard for them to be in any kind of form given Coronavirus.
Obviously I wouldn’t sign him he’s already at the club. I just think we’ve got a potentially great player here who has time to develop and mature now he’s sorted his health out.
2 goals in 2 games is good enough for United. The last few years he’s probably been suffering with his mental health but now he’s changed and dealt with it. He could be like a new signing at No10 and give Bruno the threat of a good option behind him.
It wasn’t decent he was very good against LASK. Also the Leicester goal wasn’t flukey he worked hard to get that chance.
Bruno the last few games looked tired and this new improved Lingard was much better. He scored from open play twice! What has Bruno done recently?
Why? Lingard has played better the last two games. He’s scored more than Bruno for starters.
Go and have a lay down, that's ridiculous.
Don’t be a wind up merchant Greenwood is easily the better academy prospect and no signings?
We obviously need a RW with experience (Willian anyone?) but Lingard will probably do just as good a job as Grealish and save us a tonne of money so I get what you mean about not needing to sign.
No one's falling for it mate.
If he continues like this and scores in every game he'd hit Messi numbers
Been a few WUMs on here lately - pretty good some of them.No one's falling for it mate.
If he continues like this and scores in every game he'd hit Messi numbers
He doesn’t need to score every game, just carry on his excellent form.No one's falling for it mate.
If he continues like this and scores in every game he'd hit Messi numbers
Maybe he will keep scoring and finally become Messi Lingard we have all been waiting for.
Maybe...He doesn’t need to score every game, just carry on his excellent form.
Maybe he will keep scoring and finally become Messi Lingard we have all been waiting for.
Whaat ??He doesn’t need to score every game, just carry on his excellent form.
Maybe he will keep scoring and finally become Messi Lingard we have all been waiting for.
Lingard has been much better than Messi. He has scored two and Messi none in the last 20 days.
This is true!
Btw Da Nang is a brilliant place in the world! Love the marble mountains.
I hope to god Berbasbullet is on a wind-up!
But just for statistical confirmation, Lingard's top level has never been as effective as Bruno through his entire career.
The tweet below from May identifies his expected G+A on a rolling 7 game average and you'll notice the peak there in 2017/18 corresponding to that glorious month of Dec'17 where he scored 3-4 goals over a 7 game period (for the record his xG+A during that time is 0.9)
Leaving aside Bruno, Lingard doesn't compare favorably to Delle Alli.
But just for statistical confirmation, Lingard's top level has never been as effective as Bruno through his entire career.
The tweet below from May identifies his expected G+A on a rolling 7 game average and you'll notice the peak there in 2017/18 corresponding to that glorious month of Dec'17 where he scored 3-4 goals over a 7 game period (for the record his xG+A during that time is 0.9)
Leaving aside Bruno, Lingard doesn't compare favorably to Delle Alli.
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Oh thanks for the kind words. You must have been here I guess.
Yeah it's beautiful I've been living here for 8 years. Sunny beach rocks
I doubt anyone has forgotten it, but it was 3 years ago, only lasted a few months and it's the only time he did it. So clearly thats not his level.
Look we can argue stats all day long, but what he brings you cannot put into a simple pie chart or graph. He is on the up and entering his prime! Now is the time to give him minutes and he will be able to give Bruno the rest he needs (and even a run for his money too).
His potential level is that of a squad player who can do well enough in "keep it ticking over" scenarios as a sub - and well enough in inconsequential games over the course of a season (as a pure rotation option).
That's about it.
The question is - obviously - whether we can trust him to be that for us. And also - I guess - whether he has ideas above his station, as it were. If so, he should be moved on immediately, because he clearly isn't a top player, and he will never (ever) become one.
Couple more goals and Woodward will tell Dortmund the should be bidding Sancho + 10M
The few recent pages is great.This is the end of the thread. Anyone arguing otherwise is just doing themselves a disservice. The facts are clear over an extremely long period of time.
He has never been good enough and we should wish him all the best for next season at his new club.
If you only look at games hes scored in his record is 33 goals in 33 games, that's as good as it gets.
Yeah potentially he is a decent option to bring on in games and to play in some cup matches. But if we're honest he hasn't even been performing consistently to that level the last few years.
If you were to judge him on his form over the last 2 years then he's definitely not good enough for United even as a squad option. And he's too old to hang on to him in the hope he improves. If the club are looking to make some money on him this summer would have to be the one to move him on. As his contract is running down and he's getting on 28.
Windup confirmed! Well-played!
I'd rather he be moved on but then replaced by a significantly more consistent and better player. The difference between Bruno and current Lingard is far too great to rely on Jesse. If Jesse was near his 2018 form, then United may never had signed Bruno if that was the case.
If Jesse really wants to stay at United, he'd have to take reduced wages with more bonuses attached to it and for a maximum of 3 years. Even then, United should try to be moving him off.
End of the day, I'd rather see him moved on but knowing United have a replacement lined up that replaces him and Mata.
If Jesse really wants to stay at United, he'd have to take reduced wages with more bonuses attached to it and for a maximum of 3 years. Even then, United should try to be moving him off.
End of the day, I'd rather see him moved on but knowing United have a replacement lined up that replaces him and Mata.
There is so much disrespect for one of our own players here it is unbelievable. For his own sake, I hope he leaves United and joins another club as a starter. He is just entering the peak of his career.
It is a shame that Ballon dor is off this year. Lingard would have been in fighting for it after these performances he has shown recently.
True. Very true.
So - yeah. I dunno. He hasn't really done a damn thing to make anyone think that he's a useful player over the last couple of seasons.
You have to apply special pleading (so to speak): personal issues, etc. Which is fair enough, by all means. But I don't blame anyone for wanting him gone.
Again - his potential (his ceiling, if you will) is that of a squad player and nothing more. But anyone in that category has to deliver consistently. He can't too frequently look like utter shite - like a player nobody in their right mind would pay 100k per week to have around - there has to be some consistency. Over time.
The last few pages have brought nothing but a laugh from me. Keep up the good work you WUMs.
I'll get involved too...
we should probably keep Jesse and look to offload Bruno, Jesse played far better against lask than Bruno did.
I'll get involved too...
we should probably keep Jesse and look to offload Bruno, Jesse played far better against lask than Bruno did.
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Another top class cameo! In contention to start in the semi final.
Interesting that he’s gotten himself ahead of James in the pecking order.
We’re trying to flog him.
I doubt sub appearances in the Europa is advertising him to anyone new.
If we sold Lingard whoever bought him would know all about him by now.
Man, I'm almost teary-eyed here. I always knew he would deliver, all those years of bad luck and negativity affected the boy. Such a bless that our board and Ole had the patience, one of the best squad players that you can have.
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