Jesse Lingard 'to leave on a free'

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These two briefs contradict each other, they're stating on one hand that United's valuation put them off in Jan - but now 4 months on his wage demands are too high? Wouldn't the wages have also been an issue in Jan, even if we'd been giving him away for free?
Lingard doesn't make anywhere near 150k p/w according to most sources.

(Meaning that even if Newcastle had to pay his wages in full as part of a loan deal, those wages wouldn't have been an issue as such: about half of what he now supposedly demands).
 

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I don't blame him for trying his luck, a lot of clubs out there can pay stupid wages + bonus fees, he probably is deluded into thinking he warrants that money.
Hopefully he is not United's player anymore after this season.
Salford should pay him up as Scholes seems to loved him dearly.
 

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Really curious if there is any club outhere that will pay him 150k plus a week and a substantial signing on fee
 

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Problem with Lingard is that someone like Rudiger just signed for Real earning around £300k a including his big bonus, now thats a CL winning defender and a German international, and its Real Madrid.

Lingard is a player who has had a decent 6 months over a 4 year period, and the clubs looking to sign him will, well they won't be Madrid, and £150k a week puts him as the highest earner at most premier league clubs, let alone clubs with strict wage structures abroad.

For the wages he's looking at he's going to need the following clubs to want him:

Madrid - :lol:
Juventus - they let go of Dybala...
Man City - :lol:
PSG - :lol:

And that's basically it, there's a reason he milked his last contract with us (£100k) and probably why Raiola dumped him as a client pretty sharpish, no doubt Lingards delusions had a big part to play.

I could see him staying a free agent until the last few days of the transfer window, then he signs for one of the newly promoted teams for £70-80k a week.
 

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And that's basically it, there's a reason he milked his last contract with us (£100k) and probably why Raiola dumped him as a client pretty sharpish, no doubt Lingards delusions had a big part to play.

I could see him staying a free agent until the last few days of the transfer window, then he signs for one of the newly promoted teams for £70-80k a week.
Lingard is not going to any of those clubs mentioned. I don't think they will even look at him as an option.

The best he is going to do is scam Newcastle into a big deal. Other than than, I doubt he will get 100k anywhere.
 

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So why were United idiots?

It's a sellers market, the selling club can demand what they like, had he gone on loan United would still have to pay his wages no doubt. Most on here wouldn hvae probably complained had we ended up sending him on loan yet carried on paying his wages.

Am yet to see any tangible evidence that Lingard was toxic in the dressing room or leaked stories/teams to the press, unless you can enlighten me?

As far as I can can tell, Jesse wanted a free transfer as that would give him a greater capacity to choose where he wanted to go, so stayed at the club and trained everyday bar a few days where he asked for time off.
Apart from having his brother moan through social media? Apart from having Scholes directly quote him? Apart from him refusing to celebrate against West Ham and cosying up to them on Social Media while still a United player? all the clear briefs in the past week about him not even wanting to speak to Ten Hag?

No, I don't have any tangible evidence but it's fairly easy to put it all together. United were stupid to keep an unhappy player.
 

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Really curious if there is any club outhere that will pay him 150k plus a week and a substantial signing on fee
Doubt it.
Reality without Manchester United brand will hit him like a bullet train. He will end up on some Survivor show in ten years.
 

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United thought they had Newcastle over a barrel because they had just been bought by owners with a bottomless pit of money, so demanded a high fee for a player who has been patchy at best and who would become a free agent a few months later.

Newcastle rightly told them to feck off for the reasons you've stated above, and we were stuck for half a season with an unhappy player who we continue to pay to sit and the bench, fuel the toxicity in the dressing room, and constantly leak to the press.
You do realise that there were various reasons?

1. Lingard didnt want a permanent move to Newcastle because they were fighting relegation. Why would we loan a player till end of his contract?

2. United were ready to sell until the Greenwood issue, which meant they had to keep him just for squad numbers.

Regardless of all of that, he is being paid by Manutd and should be professional.
 

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We should pay him a nominal amount to leave just so he can be bashed over it all his life.

Not fit to be the kit man, this knob lingard is.
 

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The cnuts probably needing the cash after pumping it all into his failing “JLingz” brand. Who knows how much he’s flushed down the toilet on that shit.
That is probably more the real truth.

Property development when you have money already isn’t quite as hard as building a brand. He probably should have just invested his but can’t fault a guy for having a grind.

Beckham, Flamini & Pique aside, not many make it big in business. It’s just a completely different skillset.

He can make a small business maybe but most people just give up especially if they are entitled. Maybe it will force him to grow up when he leaves his football career hopefully and actually learn to earn coin rather than just be given it.
 

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This is as clear of a leak as it gets

I dont think it's his fault but he should keep his mouth shut
A discussion between an ex player and current journalist and an existing player who has probably met Scholes many a time? Hardly a clear link!!

'I had a quick chat with Jesse the other day and I am sure he won't mind me saying this'....hardly points to someone who is leaking stuff left right and centre does it?!

Theres a good chance this quick chat happened in the corridors of OT whilst Scholes was on punditry duty!
 

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Apart from having his brother moan through social media? Apart from having Scholes directly quote him? Apart from him refusing to celebrate against West Ham and cosying up to them on Social Media while still a United player? all the clear briefs in the past week about him not even wanting to speak to Ten Hag?

No, I don't have any tangible evidence but it's fairly easy to put it all together. United were stupid to keep an unhappy player.
Why would a player demean a potential candidate for his signature?

What does his broither moaning have to do with Lingard? Do we know if he asked him to post it?

As for speaking to ETH, why does he have to? He wants out so that would be a pointless conversation would it not? I mean Jesse is out of contract before ETH even officially joins!!

As for the Scholes thing, ' had a quick chat with Jesse the other day....' hardly paints a picture of a bonafide leak does it now!?
 

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What does his broither moaning have to do with Lingard? Do we know if he asked him to post it?
Alot if you know about football. When an agent posts something be it a brother or not, he will not do it without Jessi knowing.

His brother is his agent so it actually has alot to do with Lingard. Posting things like he is in prison at United, whilst on a 5 star trip to Dubai, not toxic.
 

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In no universe is he worth anywhere close to 150k a week. He should never have been on more than 40k at Utd and that would have been generous.
 

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Alot if you know about football. When an agent posts something be it a brother or not, he will not do it without Jessi knowing.

His brother is his agent so it actually has alot to do with Lingard. Posting things like he is in prison at United, whilst on a 5 star trip to Dubai, not toxic.
I would be very surprised if his brother rang up Jesse asking for permission to post that! I could be wrong of course as we are all just guessing really.

What I can imagine is Jesse speaking to his brother and both being angry with the club for what they obviously deem to be poor treatment, leading to his brother being a class a twonk and burning all bridges by reactively posting that.
The way it was worded suggested a personal post rather than the words of someone else.

Wouldn't be the first time he has reactiovely used social media either!

But anyhow, that post is off little consequence really.
 

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I thought he was leaving and then Rangnick pulled the plug because of the Greenwood situation?

Something isn't adding up. He got all pissy because we said he couldn't leave and needed emotional time did he not?
 

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cant believe just how big-headed our academy players have become. the club have been pampering them so much they forgot their actual worth. Also what's with the rumors of United insisting on rashfords extension even without ETH approval? dont these bastards said the reason they didnt sign anyone was because they want to talk with the new manager first?

These two briefs contradict each other, they're stating on one hand that United's valuation put them off in Jan - but now 4 months on his wage demands are too high? Wouldn't the wages have also been an issue in Jan, even if we'd been giving him away for free?

No doubt United acted like idiots (as usual) here, but someone is talking shite here.
Good chance they were desperate considering they were still flirting with relegation in January but now as relegation threat is looming away, they might think that they will have more options on what players they wanna sign.
 

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Probably not, and it wouldn't surprise me if he then tried to stay
Oh, he will stay!
ETH will give him a go, like all the others did, the trouble is Jesse can run off the ball (better than on it) and can press... not all that well, but 50% better than anyone else at the club at the moment, so he will get a chance (again!)
 

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Feckers thought they could lowball us. West Ham too made the same mistake.
Lowball? 16m loan fee for 6 months? That's madness. I don't even believe it's true. No one in their right mind will pay that even if you have money to burn. They are comfortablely staying up with the 16m still in the pocket.
 

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Lowball? 16m loan fee for 6 months? That's madness. I don't even believe it's true. No one in their right mind will pay that even if you have money to burn. They are comfortablely staying up with the 16m still in the pocket.
why the suprise? :lol: woodward thought he could make Everton pay 20M for Marcos Rojo, and Woodward was still with us last January.
 

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Let that be a lesson to all those at the club that had decided to half ass it for the last 6 months with their contracts running out this summer.

Hopefully the likes of pogba and cavani get low ball offers this summer as well
 

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I thought he was leaving and then Rangnick pulled the plug because of the Greenwood situation?

Something isn't adding up. He got all pissy because we said he couldn't leave and needed emotional time did he not?
Whatever the reason, I’m bloody sick of all this drama surrounding someone who is ultimately a mediocre squad player. I’m fed up of hearing about him.
 

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The cnuts probably needing the cash after pumping it all into his failing “JLingz” brand. Who knows how much he’s flushed down the toilet on that shit.

Just wondered, did it ever make money, what company name is it part of
Did he personally fund it, or was his name just a front.
Not sure the United brand is as strong as it was right now, but assume the Jlinz brand will
less valuable if he is not a top level club
 

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If there was any interest from Mourinho, he could do worse. A manager that appreciates his work ethic, who is hard-nosed and disciplined with his players, in an easier league, a beautiful city with an old club mate around.

He would have to realize he isn’t worth anywhere near as much as he thinks, but it could provide a real renaissance for him.

It will probably be West Ham though, when the dust settles, on about 70k a week.
 

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Just wondered, did it ever make money, what company name is it part of
Did he personally fund it, or was his name just a front.
No it never made money and yes he funded it.

He lost £200k in the first year. Presumably sunk all of that in stock which obviously didn't sell. Don't know how much more he's spent or whether he gets any sales at all. I suspect his site is still just selling the initial stock he bought, probably all sat in a warehouse somewhere. His accounts from 6 months ago say it's about £260k in the red.

Now he's busy sinking his money into crap esports teams on crap games.
 

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Jesse: I want £150k/week
NUFC: No chance, how about £70k?
Jesse: £120k?
NUFC: £70k
Jesse: £100k?
NUFC: £70k
Jesse: £80k?
NUFC: £70k
Jesse: £71k?
NUFC: £70k
Jesse: £70k sounds good, where do I sign?
 

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Oh, he will stay!
ETH will give him a go, like all the others did, the trouble is Jesse can run off the ball (better than on it) and can press... not all that well, but 50% better than anyone else at the club at the moment, so he will get a chance (again!)
He can't just stay, though - if ETH wants to give him a go, the club will have to offer him a new contract.

He's not in the same category as - say - Rashford in that regard.
 

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You do realise that there were various reasons?

1. Lingard didnt want a permanent move to Newcastle because they were fighting relegation. Why would we loan a player till end of his contract?

2. United were ready to sell until the Greenwood issue, which meant they had to keep him just for squad numbers.

Regardless of all of that, he is being paid by Manutd and should be professional.
1, I understand Jesse's point of view.
For us, we'd have saved on wages.

2, Ralf R was very clear to the board - he wanted Jesse gone. The board (as is usual for them), called the shots and kept him and Jesse got virtually no game time for the last half of the season.

The reason why I think ETH will fail (like better managers have, before him), is that the board will not help him succeed. Essentially our business people at the top will be making decisions (just as they have since Fergie left), which will define what happens on the pitch. ETH will ask for certain players to be purchased, but the board will decide who gets purchased. Even Ralf R, in his 6 months stint with us, has experienced this.

LVG advised ETH to stay away from MUFC. He said that we are a business....not a football club. ETH's job will be to make money, not win games.

Getting 4th place will continue to be our target. For me, getting 4th place is absolute failure!