JJ Gabriel

Not if he moves abroad. Domestically the figure would change depending on his assessed potential so first team experience may increase it

Barcelona definitely are pushing for him.
He met Yamal at the Nou Camp a couple of years ago
Yeah I'm sure the figure skips to around the £1m mark if they make a first team appearance in the league, then it increases each appearance after.
 
In case it gets deleted later:

"JJ cannot play u21 or first team due to rules he was 14 at start of season the club can play him in u21 but will be fined or worse , clubs have done this before but man Utd do things properly we know he can play u21 football has been discussed but agreed to leave him in u18.he is Happy training with first team and playing u18 all in good time you will see JJ when he is ready".


 
His dad has expressed that they are very happy at the club recently, particularly since Carrick came in. He’s praised Carrick for going to all of the matches and defended Carrick’s tactics from criticism recently, saying it was on the players. Previously, he had taken some not so subtle digs at Amorim (deservedly so). As it stands, he isn’t going anywhere. But things change fast in football.
 
Giuseppe Rossi is the best player I’ve seen in the unders this century. Ahead of Morrison, Greenwood and so forth; if it wasn’t for injuries at Villarreal, he was legit on to do big things at a big club.

I’m wondering if Gabriel is going to continue and top trump all of them and even rival Giggs.
 
Giuseppe Rossi is the best player I’ve seen in the unders this century. Ahead of Morrison, Greenwood and so forth; if it wasn’t for injuries at Villarreal, he was legit on to do big things at a big club.

I’m wondering if Gabriel is going to continue and top trump all of them and even rival Giggs.

If he stays fit, works hard and isn't someone who changes clubs every few years, he has the talent to become one of the very best.

Let's hope he has the attitude of Giggs (on the pitch only) and less of the Morrison.

I'm just excited to see how he progresses with us.
 
If he stays fit, works hard and isn't someone who changes clubs every few years, he has the talent to become one of the very best.

Let's hope he has the attitude of Giggs (on the pitch only) and less of the Morrison.

I'm just excited to see how he progresses with us.

You mean also including the extra football related stuff off the field to remain at the top level. He did a lot of Yoga, was known to be the ultimate pro in training and had a very good diet.
 
You mean also including the extra football related stuff off the field to remain at the top level. He did a lot of Yoga, was known to be the ultimate pro in training and had a very good diet.

I'm not sure if he said that himself, but I believe that fixed his recurring hamstring injuries.
 
In case it gets deleted later:

"JJ cannot play u21 or first team due to rules he was 14 at start of season the club can play him in u21 but will be fined or worse , clubs have done this before but man Utd do things properly we know he can play u21 football has been discussed but agreed to leave him in u18.he is Happy training with first team and playing u18 all in good time you will see JJ when he is ready".




What's the source? It's been deleted. Thanks
 
What’s particularly impressive in those clips is he’s being bounced and buffeted all over the place, but not only maintaining his balance and composure, but using it to his advantage. Only elite dribblers are capable of doing that, both in instinct and understanding of their spatials. It bodes extremely well for him in the adult game - you either foul him, or he’s going to execute what he has in mind. There are handfuls of players per generation who can do this.

Don’t know how we secure him, but we really better do.

Good post. I agree with you.
 
His dad has expressed that they are very happy at the club recently, particularly since Carrick came in. He’s praised Carrick for going to all of the matches and defended Carrick’s tactics from criticism recently, saying it was on the players. Previously, he had taken some not so subtle digs at Amorim (deservedly so). As it stands, he isn’t going anywhere. But things change fast in football.

Seems a bit narcissistic. If the coach watches your kid in the u18s then he’s good and it’s the players fault, if he doesn’t watch JJ then he’s to blame for the first team performances? And what makes it worse is fans putting any weight on his opinion.
 
15 year old just loving his football and scoring goals and some posters are doing a full psychological analysis of his dad. I love this place.
 
Seems a bit narcissistic. If the coach watches your kid in the u18s then he’s good and it’s the players fault, if he doesn’t watch JJ then he’s to blame for the first team performances? And what makes it worse is fans putting any weight on his opinion.

A dad of an u18 player being pleased that the first team coach is going to watch him play is perfectly understandable.

A dad of an u18 player having a more favourable opinion of a first team coach that wins most his matches than a coach who lost or drew most of his matches is also entirely unsurprising.
 
Giuseppe Rossi is the best player I’ve seen in the unders this century. Ahead of Morrison, Greenwood and so forth; if it wasn’t for injuries at Villarreal, he was legit on to do big things at a big club.

I’m wondering if Gabriel is going to continue and top trump all of them and even rival Giggs.

I remember watching Bobby Charlton as a wee lad...


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It is not normal for a 15 year old to consistently be the best player on the pitch at U18 level. In most cases where an academy player is elevated to an older age group, it is because of their physical strengths. However, in JJ Gabriel's case, he is grabbing games by the scruff of the neck with his outstanding technical ability. It feels like every week I am seeing clips of him scoring another worldy!

I am so excited to see him in the first team next season. It would be quite the feat if he becomes the youngest ever United player to make a first time appearance. Hopefully it can be accomplished in the Carabou Cup 3rd round, or perhaps even in one of the early Premier League games if we're winning comfortably.
 
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Giuseppe Rossi is the best player I’ve seen in the unders this century. Ahead of Morrison, Greenwood and so forth; if it wasn’t for injuries at Villarreal, he was legit on to do big things at a big club.

I’m wondering if Gabriel is going to continue and top trump all of them and even rival Giggs.

Yeah forgot how good Rossi was. I was very disappointed with how that turned out.

At the time it always feels inevitable but we know that even then most won't reach the top level. A long road ahead for this lad but it's exciting to watch.
 
Nothing better than a young talent coming through. Would be exciting to see his debut next season
 
Rossi was exciting but IMO was never going to make it at the top level. He looked good as a youngster but not nearly strong enough to be a first team regular. I know he scored a couple of goals here and there, but I saw him as no more likely to make it than someone like Chris Eagles.

Gabriel has some ability for sure, but obv he’s very young and needs to be managed well on and off the pitch. Looks like he has the talent, but application, mentality and many other factors will become apparent over the next couple of years.
 
Rossi was exciting but IMO was never going to make it at the top level. He looked good as a youngster but not nearly strong enough to be a first team regular. I know he scored a couple of goals here and there, but I saw him as no more likely to make it than someone like Chris Eagles.

Gabriel has some ability for sure, but obv he’s very young and needs to be managed well on and off the pitch. Looks like he has the talent, but application, mentality and many other factors will become apparent over the next couple of years.
Tbf to Rossi, not that many United academy players have gone on to get 300 games and 100 goals in the PL, La Liga, Serie A, UEFA cups and Italian national team.

He may not have reached the hights of Best, Giggs and Scholes, but there are some very huge talents who never did as well as he did.
 
Rossi was exciting but IMO was never going to make it at the top level. He looked good as a youngster but not nearly strong enough to be a first team regular. I know he scored a couple of goals here and there, but I saw him as no more likely to make it than someone like Chris Eagles.

Gabriel has some ability for sure, but obv he’s very young and needs to be managed well on and off the pitch. Looks like he has the talent, but application, mentality and many other factors will become apparent over the next couple of years.
Rossi was much, much more talented than Chris Eagles. If injuries didn’t ruin him he would have gone on to become a world class striker.
 
Tbf to Rossi, not that many United academy players have gone on to get 300 games and 100 goals in the PL, La Liga, Serie A, UEFA cups and Italian national team.

He may not have reached the hights of Best, Giggs and Scholes, but there are some very huge talents who never did as well as he did.
People forget Rossi was close to joining Barcelona in 2011. Personal terms were apparently agreed but the deal fell through because Villarreal wanted more guaranteed money rather than bonuses.

Juventus also tried to sign him but Villarreal wouldn't let him leave as they had just sold a lot of key players and needed him for their Champions League campaign.

Rossi was a great player in his prime before the injuries so I don't get @TrailMonkey likening him to Eagles.
 
A dad of an u18 player being pleased that the first team coach is going to watch him play is perfectly understandable.

A dad of an u18 player having a more favourable opinion of a first team coach that wins most his matches than a coach who lost or drew most of his matches is also

The poster is stating when Carrick is losing, it’s the players fault but vice versa with Amorim.

The dad is just a human being which is human nature showing bias to one side who favour his son.
 
Rossi was exciting but IMO was never going to make it at the top level. He looked good as a youngster but not nearly strong enough to be a first team regular. I know he scored a couple of goals here and there, but I saw him as no more likely to make it than someone like Chris Eagles.
He's literally one of the worst cases ever of a world class talent ruined by injuries.

He scored 32 goals in all comps for Villarreal in 2010-11 when he was 23. He was on the cusp of something big and then he tore his ACL twice in a season iirc.

He even came back from that to briefly do well for Fiorentina, before doing his ACL again. It's a really sad story but he was class.
 
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Rossi had 32 goals in all comps in 2010-11. In all of Spanish football that year, the only players who outscored him were Messi and Ronaldo. In their prime.

Chris fecking Eagles indeed. :lol:
 
He's literally one of the worst cases ever of a world class talent ruined by injuries.

He scored 32 goals in all comps for Villarreal in 2010-11 when he was 23. He was on the cusp of something big and then he tore his ACL twice in a season iirc.

He even came back from that to briefly do well for Fiorentina, before doing his ACL again. It's a really sad story but he was class.
Rossi had 32 goals in all comps in 2010-11. In all of Spanish football that year, the only players who outscored him were Messi and Ronaldo. In their prime.

Chris fecking Eagles indeed. :lol:

Some of the biggest clubs wanted to sign him too, Barca and Juventus. He was having great season at Villarreal, it was like Forlan moment, leaving ManUtd for La Liga and having great season.

“Guardiola’s Barcelona wanted me; of course, Leo Messi was a key figure. They said every player who joined Barcelona had to be approved by him, but I don’t know if that was true,” Rossi said via TMW.

“I know that they saw me as part of a front three with Messi and David Villa, which tells you what kind of season I had [2010-11]. The deal didn’t go through because Villarreal wanted more guaranteed money rather than bonuses. Everything fell apart. I could have played for one of the strongest teams in football’s history.”

Rossi had another chance to leave Villarreal that summer, with an offer from Juventus. The Bianconeri had just appointed Antonio Conte to replace Luigi Delneri after a disappointing season and would go on to win the title in that campaign.

“There was a big chance. They offered me a great contract,” Rossi said.

“I spoke to Conte and [ex-Juventus CEO] Beppe Marotta. They saw me as Alessandro Del Piero’s successor. I hesitated at first because I wasn’t convinced it was truly the great Juventus of the past, but it wasn’t an offer I could turn down.

“I told Villarreal I wanted to leave, but the club blocked my exit because they had already sold several big names, and they wanted to make a good impression in the Champions League.

“They told me: ‘This is the contract. Just tell us how much you want to stay.’ In that sense, it was a nice moment.”
 
Right foot AND left foot. That's rare. He's at least on par with a young Ousmane Dembelé. But he already looks like a better finisher than he was at 19.
 
Trained with the first team again yesterday - won't link the sources as they're either on X (feck Musk) or they're awful AI voiced YouTube videos
 
Long way to go before this kid is ready for anything approaching first team action, but good to see he's getting exposure to that environment.