John Murtough Sack Watch

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Again, i'm not absolving Murtough of any blame but if you can't notice the same pattern between Murtough and those who have come before him then you're blind - the only thing that hasn't changed is the Glazers.






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Again, Murtough is there, but what power does he really have? This is my point. He's just a face for you all to chuck your shit at when our recruitment is crap so that the Glazers, who make the real decisions, don't have to face your wrath.
 
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Again, Murtough is there, but what power does he really have? This is my point. He's just a face for you all to chuck your shit at when our recruitment is crap so that the Glazers, who make the real decisions, don't have to face your wrath.
After seeing Casemiro’s potential decline, sharing similarities to a list of transfers in the recent past, it’s a sensible choice. These type of short term gain signings make sense when you’re already at the top and there aren’t many holes to fill. We shouldn’t be signing 30 year olds for £100 million. It’s a shame they didn’t have the same realisation with Casemiro when Caicedo was available for the same price.
 

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Again, Murtough is there, but what power does he really have? This is my point. He's just a face for you all to chuck your shit at when our recruitment is crap so that the Glazers, who make the real decisions, don't have to face your wrath.
He's not a money man so I don't expect the decision whether to go for Kane or not to be his and his alone.
 

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After seeing Casemiro’s potential decline, sharing similarities to a list of transfers in the recent past, it’s a sensible choice. These type of short term gain signings make sense when you’re already at the top and there aren’t many holes to fill. We shouldn’t be signing 30 year olds for £100 million. It’s a shame they didn’t have the same realisation with Casemiro when Caicedo was available for the same price.
He's not a money man so I don't expect the decision whether to go for Kane or not to be his and his alone.
But this is just 1 scenario where they have meddled, you like it this time, but Joel also meddled in us not getting the likes of Caicedo and Thiago, there are many many many signings or non signings that Joel Glazer and the CEO have pulled stunts like this. So again I ask how can John Murtough get all the shit when this stuff is constantly going on?
 

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But this is just 1 scenario where they have meddled, you like it this time, but Joel also meddled in us not getting the likes of Caicedo and Thiago, there are many many many signings or non signings that Joel Glazer and the CEO have pulled stunts like this. So again I ask how can John Murtough get all the shit when this stuff is constantly going on?
Out of curiosity do you have a source for this? I think you missed my message on the first time of asking.
 

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If we get new owners then there needs to be a whole new slate, Murtough, Arnold, Hargreaves all need to be shown the exit door and the best in footballing class whoever that might be needs to be brought in.
 

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I am yet to come across one tangible positive that has come from having him in his post. He shouldn't be there.
The truth is we don’t really know what he does. The thing I will say is he gets deals done and at least we seem to be haggling teams down somewhat now instead of the famous Woodward way.
 

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But this is just 1 scenario where they have meddled, you like it this time, but Joel also meddled in us not getting the likes of Caicedo and Thiago, there are many many many signings or non signings that Joel Glazer and the CEO have pulled stunts like this. So again I ask how can John Murtough get all the shit when this stuff is constantly going on?
Are we talking Thiago Alcantara here? :confused:
 

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Let me get this right. The upper management and entire scouting network, had 1 full year to scout players, and Hojlund is the only name they could bring to the table?
No, there plenty of names they put forward. Kim Min Jae, Tolibo (centre back), Amadou Onana, Exequiel Palacios, Tchouameni, Mattias Svanberg ( centre midfield). We can't pursue gecuase the Glazers do not put any of their money in to alleviate the ffp restrictions. Also, Maguire and Van De Beek did not leave, in order to get more money back in.
 

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No, there plenty of names they put forward. Kim Min Jae, Tolibo (centre back), Amadou Onana, Exequiel Palacios, Tchouameni, Mattias Svanberg ( centre midfield). We can't pursue gecuase the Glazers do not put any of their money in to alleviate the ffp restrictions. Also, Maguire and Van De Beek did not leave, in order to get more money back in.
Considering all that, the recruitment department better shut their mouths then, as we are working within known restrictions.
We done our best and signed Amrabat on an £8m loan, to bypass said restrictions.
 

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Is this thread based on anything or is this just a pure discussion ?
 

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Considering all that, the recruitment department better shut their mouths then, as we are working within known restrictions.
We done our best and signed Amrabat on an £8m loan, to bypass said restrictions.

I told you. We can not sign anyone or anything of a standard until those two pieces of shyte brothers leave. The people need to gomfirst is those siblings.

That is the thing that people on here need to drill through their skulls.
 

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I told you. We can not sign anyone or anything of a standard until those two pieces of shyte brothers leave. The people need to gomfirst is those siblings.

That is the thing that people on here need to drill through their skulls.
God I so sick of everyone memeing us. Please start winning some games!
 

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Mr. Murtough was appointed by David Moyes apparently or at least recommended. Murtough came from Everton, not Madrid or Bayern, Everton ffs. The record of this board since David Gill left has been pathetic. Shambles after shambles, getting their pants pulled down on every transfer it seems, signing dross like Falcao and Sanchez both who came for a pay day. If Sir Jim finally gets to buy the club, all of the board will be gone.