Jonjo Shelvey | Pogba tackle

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Him calling Fergie a grass was the only time he was really relevant.

Think there was a call for him to be in the England squad when we had a manager like Hodgson cos he kept picking the same ol trash. Under Southgate, nah.
Proves as much when Southgate would rather have dier and Henderson in the middle.
 

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FA have said he isn't.
There is something seriously fecked up about referees having way too much power like that. Why are they so revered ? They feck up badly all the time.
Football needs a big revamp of its rules, just because a dumbass ref assessed terribly a situation doesn't mean nothing should be done about if afterwards
 

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There is something seriously fecked up about referees having way too much power like that. Why are they so revered ? They feck up badly all the time.
Football needs a big revamp of its rules, just because a dumbass ref assessed terribly a situation doesn't mean nothing should be done about if afterwards
VAR next season. The ref can look again if necessary. If he still deems that ok.........
Welcome to ROLLERBALL!
 

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Didn't look deliberate to me. I'm not sure what a photo of meant to show - it's meaningless.
Not deliberate. Just a man flying too high with studs up in an uncontrollable manner and connecting with the opposition player's leg with all of the studs on his shoes.
 

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Not deliberate. Just a man flying too high with studs up in an uncontrollable manner and connecting with the opposition player's leg with all of the studs on his shoes.
All done without a hint of intent or malice
 

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VAR next season. The ref can look again if necessary. If he still deems that ok.........
Welcome to ROLLERBALL!
Problem with that is these cnuts are so arrogant that they can tell Marriner "Oi I think you've missed something here" and he'll be "nah mate I saw that alright, nothing in it, just a coming together of the hamstring and the studs"
 

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There is no action being taken so what's the point of moaning about it .

We won we move on
 

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Can't wait for VAR. It won't be perfect but it'll be a huge f***ing step in the right direction.
 

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That's the way I'd always assumed it worked but there's been several examples where the FA were perfectly happy to retrospectively undermine a referee's decision to send a player off, when that player lodges an appeal (including a match refereed by Marriner).

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...d-card-against-southampton-overturned-appeal/

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/34329563

So if they're willing to correct a refereeing error when a player gets sent off, why can't they correct an error where he should have sent someone off but didn't?!

For what it’s worth, I think Lascelle’s “tackle” on Hererra was even more dangerous and worthy of a red. Certainly no less dangerous than Bailly’s last week.
Great point.
 

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Meh, not fussed, makes no difference to us going forward. If anything I was worried they would claim the ref had acted on that but not Pogba's payback, cue Pogban.

That's the sort of standard I expect from the FA.
 

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Shelvey has always been a horrible dirty bastard.
 

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This was the same ref who failed to send off Michael Brown for a really horrible challenge on Giggs in the 5-1 win over Fulham at OT in 06-07, the opening game of the season.
He also sent of the wrong Arsenal player because both of them are black. I seriously question the attention span of Andre Marriner. The premier league has had some shocking refs over the last decade.
 

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Can't wait for VAR. It won't be perfect but it'll be a huge f***ing step in the right direction.
Came to type this. VAR will influence the prem positively. Refs in the league have been shite lately.
 
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I cannot believe the sheer incompence of that decision and how dirty those scumbags were last night. Blatant bias against MUFC (as if we need more proof).

I will rejoice if they get relegated.
 

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Abdoulaye Doucoure committed an identical one last night against Bournemouth, for which he was only booked. On the whole, the standard of refereeing this season is much better than last year, but two leg-breakers yesterday were missed. Whether Doucoure was booked or not, it’s clear the red didn’t see the challenge properly as he couldn’t have possible called it as a yellow. The rules are flawed.
 

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Does VAR actually handle situations like this in other leagues?
Yes, but even then there will still be some talking points. But something like that would definitely result in a red card, when VAR is properly used.
 

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Has he been called up for it yet by the FA?
 

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That can't happen under the current rules. Ref saw it and gave United a free kick. They can only get involved if the ref missed it.
I was under the impression it could be reviewed after the game even if the ref had seen it. Providing the ref admitted to not seeing the full extent of the incident, which you would have to assume unless the ref is totally useless...
 

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That fecking baldy rotten cnut. That was a season-threatening injury kick on hammy there.
 

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The referee 'seeing' it is a major cop out. You can see something whilst missing important details. It seems that Marriner saw a collision but didn't see studs on the back of Pogba's thigh, which is the important part.

Now Pogba is injured and possibly misses a massive away game against a top 6 rival. But Marriner saw it, and he got it wrong, and the decision will remain wrong, because rules.
 

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A bad tackle from behind is a sending off offence and Shelvey knew exactly what he was doing.
 

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He's on the same level as Joey Barton for me. Chavvy scumbag thug who would probably be a criminal if not for football.
 

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That can't happen under the current rules. Ref saw it and gave United a free kick. They can only get involved if the ref missed it.
Strange, always thought it was if it was a yellow they couldn't . but then you rarely see tackles like that that don't at least garner a yellow
 

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He's on the same level as Joey Barton for me. Chavvy scumbag thug who would probably be a criminal if not for football.
They are criminals, who just happen to play football

Both severely overrated too.

As for the challenge, you only need to see where Shelvey was looking, it was Pogbas leg and not the ball. Case closed. FA are ridiculous with things like this