It’s always been an alternative player of the year award really. Its not just unqualified Englishmen they give it to: Klinsman, Piers, Zola and Ginola all won it undeservingly too. They come up with a narrative between themselves.
Jordan Hendrsone - FWA Footballer of the Year
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TAA has 4 goals and 13 assists in the league alone, and him and Robertson are absolutely essential to the system. I would lose count of how many attacks this season were started by TAA cross field passes, long balls, or crosses.
Henderson might do his job well, and might be a better player than some give him credit for, but he is very replaceable in a midfield with a very defined role.
What TAA brings is so much more vital to the setup and very difficult to replace with the same degree of success.
He is suspect defensively, but what he brings offensively outweighs Henderson’s contribution in my opinion.
You‘re mixing up awards here. Sterling won the FWA last year which Henderson has won. PFA player of the year is voted for by the player so is much more meritocratic. I don’t think that Salah’s win can be argued in the PFA award as it was one of the best seasons in PL history. VVD was the other one last year which was more arguable but not that eye brow raising.
Yeah I understand the difference, I'm just pointing out an obvious bias towards Liverpool that contributed towards this absurd award today.
Never heard of him.
I mean..
That there sure is a lot of United fans voting
Bruno, on half a season, but ok he's been amazing...martial??? Over Vardy???????
Also alisson is a boring choice. Didn't need to be amazing. Meanwhile you have Guaita and Dubravka keeping their teams up almost single-handedly...
Fans vote, players outside of United, Liverpool and Arsenal haven't a hope. Tbh, I'm shocked KDB or Soyunce got in.
Isn’t this ‘the most overhyped British player award’? Scott Parker won it while his team getting relegated, Giggs won it with only 12 starts and so on.
I think it should have gone to a Liverpool player, but Henderson? Come on now, he is good, but he arguably isn’t even in their top 5 players. Salah, Mane, Van Diijk, TAA would have all deserved this more. Maybe Alisson and Robertson too.
I think it should have gone to a Liverpool player, but Henderson? Come on now, he is good, but he arguably isn’t even in their top 5 players. Salah, Mane, Van Diijk, TAA would have all deserved this more. Maybe Alisson and Robertson too.
Jesus Christ. Whoever voted Evans, AWB, Traore and to a slightly (but just slightly) lessee degree Ings and Grealish needs their head checked. I mean, there is a non-trivial chance that they might have dementia if they really thought those were the best players in the league.
Jesus. Martial should be nowhere that lists. Shows how much fans we got.
What Ings have done this season or what Vardy has done should not be overlooked. Even though if you are a fan.
I'd have Ings for the FWA award.
A Liverpool player should win it, but Henderson?
I think people are misunderstanding what this award actually means.
The 3 main individual awards in this country are -
If you were writing a movie based on one player this season, Henderson would certainly make an interesting subject. And that's what the award is for. It's a bit like the Sports Personality of The Year in that regard - not just about the sport.
You could argue there's a bias from the sheer number of Liverpool fans in the media (and Guardiola has done precisely that). But that's just one of those things you have to deal with. Writers are always going to want to write about the things they're most passionate about. If that bothers you, ignore the whole thing.
The 3 main individual awards in this country are -
- The PFA Players' Player of the Year award. This is awarded to the best individual the other players feel has given them the hardest game.
- The Premier League Player of the Season, which is supposed to be unbiased award - from the league itself - to its best individual performer.
- The Football Writers Association Footballer of the Year, which is decided by a bunch of storytellers to the one character who's given them the most interesting narrative over the course of the season.
If you were writing a movie based on one player this season, Henderson would certainly make an interesting subject. And that's what the award is for. It's a bit like the Sports Personality of The Year in that regard - not just about the sport.
You could argue there's a bias from the sheer number of Liverpool fans in the media (and Guardiola has done precisely that). But that's just one of those things you have to deal with. Writers are always going to want to write about the things they're most passionate about. If that bothers you, ignore the whole thing.
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Going by the basic stats on all three players I wouldn't say nowhere. In less minutes on the field he's had more goal involvements than Ings and just behind Vardy. And let's not forget Martial in the first half of the season was relying on midfield maestros such as Pereira, Lingard whom created next to nothing for him.
Ings minutes played 2710 goals 21 assists 2
Vardy minutes played 2942 goals 23 assists 7
Martial minutes played 2535 goals 17 assists 8
Never heard of him - Jordan Hendrsone ??
He joined Liverpool last summer to contact the VAR room.
Done a brilliant job this season and made sure they get everything with them.
Is this actually real?! He's aged well.
Vardy has genuinely been shit since Christmas
That explains why they awarded it to that beachball in 2010.
Journalists vote based upon narrative and perceived wholesomeness. It’s all about the story. It’s a nonsense, really.
And Ings got world class players feeding him?
He plays for a bang average side and has done far far more than any one would expect.
Can't compare minutes played and Lingard/Andreas to what Ings has around him... Doesnt make sense
The guy shouldn't even be on the shortlist for Liverpool's player of the season. Madness I tell ya.
Might be an average side (which includes two fully deserved draws against United this season) but all options Southampton have/had was better than Lingard, Pereira.
To be fair, almost all of us do shit embarassing cringy things when we're younger.
Assuming that's real, not fake, interesting his fav is CR7.
Cheers for the explanation. That finally make sense.
Yeah, "writing" and "story impacts" elements are crucial factors.
Many previous winners portray that. Not sure why Parker won it.
^ then isn't Rashford a far better player to write on? with his charity campaign against you-know-who during this C19 era and basically won, then being given honor, and if they really did their deep research, Rashford have been criticized harshly over the years and often undermined. This is also his best season to date with signs of growing improvements, so the future is bright. They can even milk it more and say how Rashford is becoming United's key player despite his young age.
The over-rating of Henderson is too much. Captain armband nowadays is like a meaningless tradition. They're too desperate in making Henderson a bigger player than he really is. And also making this season a bigger deal than it is for Pool.
Yeah almost no difference
It's not embarrassing for me, I just find it very funny.
Well almost everyone liked CR7 back then when they're young. Me included
Well, according you and your stats you base Martials tally with Bruno and Pogba. Take Martial goals before the restart and compare with Ings and you'll see.
“A Liverpool player should win it”
Wtf
It’s an individual award and feck all to do with who he plays for. We’ve won doubles and trebles and still Ginola and Sir Les Ferdinand Etc got the award
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Wtf
It’s an individual award and feck all to do with who he plays for. We’ve won doubles and trebles and still Ginola and Sir Les Ferdinand Etc got the award
de Bruyne
More self-serving and pretentious rubbish just like the Oscars. I wouldn't even have put him in the Top 20.
Absolute joke.
Absolute joke.
KDB 13 goals and 20 assists....
What about finger pointing, shouting and acting like hardman?
We all the saw that "let me talk" video he's good at that too.
Of course. But comfortable that there are other opinions on this. I share mine with the majority of non-partisan football writers.
Oh, you were serious?
I guess a Liverpool and United fan arguing over this is somewhat futile, though. Although the addition of a laughing emoji certainly adds weight to your conviction. I may adopt that the next time I seek to ridicule.