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Best goalkeeper in Europe now official.
I fecking love this guy. He's just one of the lads really, isn't he
so just a coincidence that City have become far more successful after he was dumped. sorry but he was a liability.. that moment of signing the National Anthem at the top of his voice summed up how over-hyped he got and that allowed him to lose concentration. often shaky, often making bad decisions and affecting his fellow defenders. as for Henderson, I'm afraid that shows how deluded you are. Not saying he isn't good (he is) but he won't be England No1 for some time (if ever)Not at all - when he actually had to make a number of saves in a game (his season at Birmingham, Champions League games with City etc) he was immense.
De Gea made more mistakes last season than Hart did in 6 years as City’s number one. Joe’s head went after being binned by Pep, and he hasn’t been able to recover since, but he’s had a good career regardless.
Regarding Pickford, he’s decent but Dean Henderson will eclipse him by next summer and be England’s first choice.
I think he is not as good as he believes he is ; this is also shown through his comment on Alisson. The fact that he himself makes an equally big blunder later on has hopefully humbled him a bit.He gets unnecessary hate because of the confidence he has in himself but he's proven that he's well worth the no1 jersey.
Nothing wrong with players with self confidence, some people seem to have a problem with it, it's bizarre.I think he is not as good as he believes he is ; this is also shown through his comment on Alisson. The fact that he himself makes an equally big blunder later on has hopefully humbled him a bit.
He's Joe Hart mk 2 for me. Just way more likeable.He's really not that good. Rarely holds shots, rarely comes off his line to deal with aerial balls, little command of his box.
Me too.I get a little scared every time this thread is bumped.
Shit I thought the same thing..I get a little scared every time this thread is bumped.
Don't dispute he's had a good career and hit a lofty peak earlier in the decade. But Hart was error-prone since 2013, was at fault for England getting knocked out in the group stages in 2014 and 2016, and generally got an easy ride from the media because he was still pulling off top performances in a handful of higher profile Champions League games. It basically took someone with Guardiola's credibility to erode the media's perception of his status as one of the top keepers around, even though he'd been inconsistent for a number of years before that point.Not at all - when he actually had to make a number of saves in a game (his season at Birmingham, Champions League games with City etc) he was immense.
De Gea made more mistakes last season than Hart did in 6 years as City’s number one. Joe’s head went after being binned by Pep, and he hasn’t been able to recover since, but he’s had a good career regardless.
Regarding Pickford, he’s decent but Dean Henderson will eclipse him by next summer and be England’s first choice.
so just a coincidence that City have become far more successful after he was dumped. sorry but he was a liability.. that moment of signing the National Anthem at the top of his voice summed up how over-hyped he got and that allowed him to lose concentration. often shaky, often making bad decisions and affecting his fellow defenders. as for Henderson, I'm afraid that shows how deluded you are. Not saying he isn't good (he is) but he won't be England No1 for some time (if ever)
That's enough of De Gea, this is Pickford thread.He's really not that good. Rarely holds shots, rarely comes off his line to deal with aerial balls, little command of his box.
Pickford would be delighted if he was Joe Hart 'mk 2'. He's yet to show the kind of form Hart did from 2009-2012, and even after his dip Hart was still better than Pickford is now. It's only since he left City that Hart drastically declined, beginning at Torino.He's Joe Hart mk 2 for me. Just way more likeable.
Fair haha!That's enough of De Gea, this is Pickford thread.
His Torino move came after Euro 16 right? He was absolutely awful in that tournament, pretty hard to remember him making a save.Pickford would be delighted if he was Joe Hart 'mk 2'. He's yet to show the kind of form Hart did from 2009-2012, and even after his dip Hart was still better than Pickford is now. It's only since he left City that Hart drastically declined, beginning at Torino.
Yeah true, his decline started that summer. He was dreadful at the Euros.His Torino move came after Euro 16 right? He was absolutely awful in that tournament, pretty hard to remember him making a save.
Euro 2016 was an actual disgrace. Every goal we conceded I remember thinking he could have done better.His Torino move came after Euro 16 right? He was absolutely awful in that tournament, pretty hard to remember him making a save.
it's called one fact after another... also known as evidence.you go ahead and think he was great but i judge great as Peter S, Gordon Banks and Peter ShiltonNo it's not a coincidence. It's because they hired the best manager in the world, rather than decent but unexceptional ones like Pellegrini and Mancini.
He wasn't a liability at City for most of his career, he was one of the best keepers in the league. He had a dramatic drop off and turned in to an absolute joke, but that doesn't mean that we have to rewrite history and pretend he was always a poor keeper. He had the odd off game and had his weaknesses like every keeper who isn't a great, but he was a good goalie.
Being passionate and singing your national anthem loudly (as people were demanding?) sums up how over-hyped he was? How do you know that allowed him to lose concentration?
He looks like a character from a Stanley Kubrick film who talks to his gun.
You gave zero evidence of anything. City being better after Joe Hart is not proof that Joe Hart was shit, it's proof that Guardiola is arguably the best manager of this generation and City bringing him in has made them more consistent.it's called one fact after another... also known as evidence.you go ahead and think he was great but i judge great as Peter S, Gordon Banks and Peter Shilton
Indeed. Too many people can only calculate in binary these days.Everyone knows Joe Hart fell off a cliff, but that doesn't mean we have to act like he was never decent.
Well I would.Indeed. Too many people can only calculate in binary these days.
His decline seemed to begin in earnest at the same time he started getting ridiculously pumped up in the tunnel at the 2014 World Cup. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the same happens to Pickford.
Hart looked good because he was a deserved starting keeper for one of the best sides in the league where he won league titles. City fans on here have repeatedly said he was very good for them during that period, and who would know better?Well I would.
One of the main reasons why Hart looked good was that there were no other good English keepers at that time.
Pickford is the English number one keeper against a number of other pretty good keepers.
I am surprised with the level of detractors as I think he is top class.
city conceded fewere goals afer he left.. but of course that's not really evidence. Pep ran out and stopped the ballYou gave zero evidence of anything. City being better after Joe Hart is not proof that Joe Hart was shit, it's proof that Guardiola is arguably the best manager of this generation and City bringing him in has made them more consistent.
I literally said 'he wasn't a great', so I don't know why you're telling me what you judge a great on. He was a good keeper, one of the better ones in the league in his prime, and Pickford would do well to reach that level as long as he doesn't experience the sharp drop off.
Everyone knows Joe Hart fell off a cliff, but that doesn't mean we have to act like he was never decent.
much prefer Buckland - better (in my mind) and cheaper. and less of a pratSeeing our transfer strategy, he is surely on top of the list for De Gea replacement.
city conceded fewere goals afer he left.. but of course that's not really evidence. Pep ran out and stopped the ball
I beg your pardon. I hope you are trying to be ironic...Best goalkeeper in Europe now official.
Yep, I remember the first game of the season way back when and you absolutely battered us but it stayed 0-0 due to Hart, yeah he dropped the odd clanger but was a fine keeper for 5-6 years between 2009 - 2014.Hart looked good because he was a deserved starting keeper for one of the best sides in the league where he won league titles. City fans on here have repeatedly said he was very good for them during that period, and who would know better?
He's in the best team for the Nations League .I beg your pardon. I hope you are trying to be ironic...
ahh yes the Nations League - UEFA's answer to the Milk Cup!He's in the best team for the Nations League .
I miss the Milk Cup....ahh yes the Nations League - UEFA's answer to the Milk Cup!