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Jose Mourinho | Sacked by Roma
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
Rome? What
It's as bad as Madrid
Moaninho is cracking up
"#Roma in the eyes of power are small"
”If the referee made the right decision, then our sport that many years ago became the sport that people love, then this has changed. This is a different sport. A different sport.
If the referee made a mistake and disallowed the goal, he will be the first to be upset at getting it wrong, while for Roma it is déjà vu, as this has already happened many times to us this season.
If that is a foul, then this is no longer football, we have to call it something else. We need a different name, because it’s a different sport.
There is also a third option, which is that Roma are considered ‘small’ in the eyes of those who are powerful. I leave it there, as the Mourinho who arrived here seven months ago has a different profile to before.”
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"#Roma in the eyes of power are small"
”If the referee made the right decision, then our sport that many years ago became the sport that people love, then this has changed. This is a different sport. A different sport.
If the referee made a mistake and disallowed the goal, he will be the first to be upset at getting it wrong, while for Roma it is déjà vu, as this has already happened many times to us this season.
If that is a foul, then this is no longer football, we have to call it something else. We need a different name, because it’s a different sport.
There is also a third option, which is that Roma are considered ‘small’ in the eyes of those who are powerful. I leave it there, as the Mourinho who arrived here seven months ago has a different profile to before.”
Roma play some good football under Mourinho. Pretty exciting to watch, but they seem to be very unlucky in games.
Thought we played our best football under Mourinho in his first season. Had bunch of draws at Old Trafford against Burnley, Bournemouth, Arsenal etc. where we deserved all 3 points.
Roma fans seem to be happy with him so far and share his “bias against Roma analysis”.
Not, sure how representative the local newspaper is but they are convinced that Giroud’s goal being allowed means Zaniolo’s should have as well.
“Fate ride” means something like “you make us laugh”
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Inter fans still like him. But now his Roma is out of the Coppa Italia, and probably out of the top 4 race (-6) as well.
Top 6 (ahead of Sarri's Lazio) and trying to win the Conference league become the main objectives now.
Top 6 (ahead of Sarri's Lazio) and trying to win the Conference league become the main objectives now.
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Apparently called his players eunuchs after the defeat to Inter and asked how they could concede a goal after just 2 minutes
Rumours that Roma are going to stick by him no matter what happens this season and the quality of the football has apparently been pretty decent. Wouldn't be surprised to see him at Newcastle in the future though.
Rumours that Roma are going to stick by him no matter what happens this season and the quality of the football has apparently been pretty decent. Wouldn't be surprised to see him at Newcastle in the future though.
That will happen and the narrative will be how it was fate/meant to be etc.Apparently called his players eunuchs after the defeat to Inter and asked how they could concede a goal after just 2 minutes
Rumours that Roma are going to stick by him no matter what happens this season and the quality of the football has apparently been pretty decent. Wouldn't be surprised to see him at Newcastle in the future though.
He can actually be really likeable when he wants to be. He's an utter prat when he wants to be too.
A Mourinho meltdown is the most predictable aspect of modern day football. More predictable than a Maguire defensive mistake.
thats what makes the latter so fecking annoying
Would love to see him do well at Roma. Esp when it doesn’t directly affect us in the PL.
Very Mourinho
Not a good result but Verona is a very tough team to meet and Roma has some important players missing.
He had to use Karsdorp as a CB.
He had to use Karsdorp as a CB.
Has a manager ever lost their touch as quickly as Mourinho?
From the Special one to the clueless one so quickly
From the Special one to the clueless one so quickly
It hasn't exactly been quick though?
He began to lose it in his last season at Real Madrid which was 7-8 years ago now.
He's been devoid of ideas pretty much since then. He has won the odd thing because of teams he was at and money he had to spend.
However he had never been able to develop his tactics to stay relevant.
For a guy his age it's shocking how much of a dinosaur he turned into and his quickly.
It's like he just doesn't know any other way of setting his team's up to play
However he had never been able to develop his tactics to stay relevant.
For a guy his age it's shocking how much of a dinosaur he turned into and his quickly.
It's like he just doesn't know any other way of setting his team's up to play
I think that happened to the likes of Capello, Lippi & co as well tbf. I think with Mourinho - the timing makes things look a lot more dramatic. He was quite a young manager when he became great (41 when he won the CL). But what he did was, he perfected the football of the generation that came before.
Sadly for him, within 5 years of him doing that Guardiola came along and football had a pretty dramatic tactical evolution again. And the years he'd spent studying and perfecting his version was now outdated.
He's also 59 years old now, he's only 4 years younger than Rangnick. So he's not that young. On top of that, he's just quite a toxic personality - and that makes his inevitable collapses a lot more dramatic and public.
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I think he's a genius. After the meltdown at Chelsea, which should've ended his run at top clubs. He received wages and severances from Man Utd and Tottenham, and somehow got Rome to pay him as well.
International management beckons
Thing is though, he seems to have forgotten how to do that as well. His obsessive attention to detail that he used to rely on to sniff out his opponents’ weaknesses has been abandoned for a general cowardly pragmatism.
I think a lot of what’s said about his man management style not working with today’s players is a load of rubbish. The reason players used to walk through walls for him was because they were confident that if they followed his instructions they’d be pretty much guaranteed to win stuff. Since he can no longer provide that guarantee they are no longer that motivated.
The Friedkins will give him a budget of 100m in the summer from what I hear.
Didn’t he already spend a big chunk this summer gone?
Yes. And over the last 3 years, they have had the highest net spend in the league. But business-wise it is becoming a cheaper squad for the long term. Younger players on sustainable wages and with a certain resale value.
Before Mourinho they had the wage bill of a CL team and they haven't qualified to the CL since 2019. Next season will be their 4th consecutive season without the CL (the first time in this century they will finish 4 seasons in a row outside top 4 ).
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He is a perfect moron for the moronic environment surrounding football in Rome, though? They live with their nose stuck in their own ar*e and fully deserve to be played by that despicable human being and failed coach.
The "Failed Coach" has as many CL trophies as Juventus have in their entire history. Failed club.
Roma fan pretending to be neutral says hello to the forum. ciao, bello
Whoever takes him on deserves what they get. They're 7 points adrift of 4th spot and it's going to be yet another disappointing season for Mourinho.
I’m not a part of this childish discussion and don’t give a shit about Italian football, but what is the point with your post? Mourinho failed at Chelsea part 2, he failed at Manchester United, he failed at Tottenham and he is doing a woeful job at Roma in record speed, that’s the here and now. Obviously him winning the CL with Porto and Internazionale matters very little decades later, so again, what is the point of your post?
These "neutral fans" and supports "good football" posters are hilarious, not sure why they feel insulting to name the club they support.
Next he'll be claiming that getting to Spurs to the league Cup final was an amazing achievement.
There's nothing to hide. You have no clue if you think people have to hide this kind of thing on an online forum.
I'm a Mourinho fan. Unapologetically so. Not really a Roma fan. Find Serie A to be an awful league to watch post the Prime Serie A days.
He still won a league with Chelsea and picked up a couple of trophies with a pretty average United side. Granted, he's way past his best but certainly not total failures like you are painting it to be.
Its listed as neutral because my local club has nothing to do with European Football and stuff. Irrelevant to this forum's discussion domain. This forum is very welcoming to opposition fans anyways so I doubt people feel insulting to name their clubs.
Exactly my point.
Would it be fair to say that defensive oriented managers lose it faster/more dramatically than offensive oriented managers? Seems like the second group have a better track record of staying relevant until retirement.