Its still worthwhile to win. I don't think United fans should turn their nose up at a trophy that they'll most likely play in the near future.
For Roma, the fans, they want this trophy. As they should.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
For Roma, the fans, they want this trophy. As they should.
no. no. a thousand times no. for one, dog shit has a more pleasing aroma than i do.
Is he though? You sure he just doesn’t mention us in every conversation he has? Obsessed with us, I doubt there asking him questions about us when he’s about to play a final.
Yes, they are. Joe Cole literally brings up the topic of United to him in the clip that was posted on the previous page.
He literally gets asked this. Even in a press conference recently he asked them to stop asking him about United.
You mean telling the truth?
That's it, I'm fighting you.
Stop talking about him, you are obsessed with him. Nobody asked you.
Am I doing it right ?
It's for best of the rest who haven't qualified for Europa or CL. Not everyone can qualify for CL.
.. and not everyone can qualify for EL...
When UEFA make an even shittier tournament than Conference League in a few years then Mourinho will probably have fallen enough to be competing for that too. And then he and his acolytes will be talking about how it's better to win that shitty tournament than nothing.
Well, no, not really. Winning a shitty tournament means nothing. Not when you're Manchester United (or Roma).
A finished Jose Mourinho has got into a final in 5 of his last full seasons in charge of a club, from Chelsea to Roma. Finished indeed.
Good to see that he still recognises the support most of us gave him too.
Tell me about european titles Roma has
Also United has been unable to even win the Europa League, sure the Conference is a smaller trophy but you have to be humble and build up. Trophies won't rain just because you happened to won them 10-20-30 years ago.
Utter nonsense
Winning the Europa League has zero significance to us beyond the CL spot it offers - no matter what some of our fans (who coincidentally seem to love Mourinho) seem to think.Tell me about european titles Roma has
Also United has been unable to even win the Europa League, sure the Conference is a smaller trophy but you have to be humble and build up. Trophies won't rain just because you happened to won them 10-20-30 years ago.
Feck "humility". The Europa League/Conference is beneath us. Barca, Real or Bayern would never celebrate winning either of those shitty tournaments. Neither should we.
We finished 6th. Europa league is exactly were we belong next season and I will of course be delighted if somehow they win it too. It would be a fantastic 1st season for the new manager
Hope Roma wins this.
I believe they would. Look at the fuss Barcelona caused when they were eliminated by Frankfurt for fecks sake.
United are in no position to have elitism.
Of course they are asking him about winning Europa with United.
Then I would say you are part of the problem.
Bollocks!! We play any competition to win it. You don''t become a winner by throwing away tournaments that you are participating in. Winning is a habit. It doesn't matter, what mickey mouse cup it is.
That's a pretty arrogant view imho, SuperLeague-esque.
You have the right to nothing, no matter how much you won, you always have to work for everything.
Any of those clubs can fall from grace just like it happened to many others in the past. Those tournaments by then would be an amazing achievement if they win it.
Yeah let’s not celebrate winning a trophy because it’s such a problem if we do. fecking hell, at this rate we might as well stuff all the cups in the bin and just have a super league.. oh wait.
If ETH wins the Europa in his first season. Is this a good thing or a bad thing?
If we fail to achieve top 4: a good thing.
If we do achieve top 4: couldn't care less. Second rate competition.
Agree with that. Even Sir Alex started taking the League cup a bit more seriously in the second half of his career, especially with the emergence of Chelsea. He even said as much when we won it in 2006.
A trophy is a trophy...and we haven't won one since 2017
We should enter into fecking Dana Cup this summer by that logic. "Hey, it's a trophy, would you rather win it or not?!" Well, I'd rather not, actually. Because hopefully that would mean we wouldn't suffer the indignity of competing for it.
Mate, that's a ridiculous logic. You're showing elitism when the club you support had to rely on Brighton to ensure United weren't in the Conference league. So, what only 2 cups matter to you? Everything else is joyless?
The PL, CL, FA-cup and the League Cup - in that order - matter to me. Everything else is shit, yes.
I frankly find the idea of United fans celebrating the Europa/Conference League (except when we are reliant on winning the EL for qualifying for the CL the following season) embarrassing.
Going to be a long time until you can celebrate then.
Were you embarrassed in 91 too?
So what should we do? Not turn up to the game, not watch it, expect the players to not receive their medals and just trudge off the pitch? I assume the Cup Winners Cup meant feck all to Fergie.
This is about Roma anyway, look at how their fans are so excited for it, how much it means to them. I presume if you have kids, and they win some under 9's tournament you scold them for celebrating because its not the FA Youth cup
I was like 5 years old at the time, but as I understand it the old Cup Winners' Cup had much more prestige associated with it than the current Europa League (and at the time only the league winners participated in the European Cup, which means a lot of top teams were in the CWC/UEFA Cup). And the financial/quality differences around Europe were much smaller. So it was a very different time in history.
Celebrate winning the Conference all you want. I won't be.So what should we do? Not turn up to the game, not watch it, expect the players to not receive their medals and just trudge off the pitch? I assume the Cup Winners Cup meant feck all to Fergie.
This is about Roma anyway, look at how their fans are so excited for it, how much it means to them. I presume if you have kids, and they win some under 9's tournament you scold them for celebrating because its not the FA Youth cup
This is the exact ignorance on why the super league is a bullshit idea. The idea that United or any other club belongs among the elite because of their name is quite frankly bullshit.
The truth is only two English clubs have won it since it’s inception and Chelsea needed a miracle goal to win.
The Europa league is difficult competition to win.
If your in that competition it is because you are a Europa league club so it is not beneath you….it is you.
The Europe’s league is the third biggest competition a English club can win. It hold a lot more weight then a FA Cup.
United is not an elite club atm stop acting like one. You gotta earn that.
I've never said that. And I hate the idea of the super league.
If other people want to celebrate winning the Europa/Conference then go ahead, I can't stop you. But I won't be. And in the meantime City and Liverpool will be celebrating winning Premier Leagues and Champions Leagues. But if you're comfortable with that so long as we win a Europa/Conference then good for you.
United is not an elite club right now, you're right, but it should be. It needs to be. And anything less is unacceptable. That's my view.
I'd rather win an FA cup than an EL by the way. Without question.
Edit: last post of the day.
We were truly his dream job and always have been, and he’s clearly always taken a liking for us too, hence him being my favourite United manager in my lifetime bar Fergie, albeit I hope Erik can take 2nd place in good time (don’t think he’ll ever go top, but no one ever will).
Shame it didn’t work out, although it speaks volumes about the man that winning 2.5 trophies in a single season still qualifies as ‘didn’t work out’.