Jose Mourinho Sack Watch | Sacked per 19-04
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The only bad thing is that when Spurs fire him they will probably get Nagglesman, who will turn things around.
Nothing bad about it, they'd be the natural next step for him.
Mourinho's Football heritage is eroding fast.
Only a miracle will see him win the League cup with Spuds!
Only a miracle will see him win the League cup with Spuds!
The distant promise of success will temp sonebody. Maybe have a contract fullof clauses but I dont think an entire league can lock Jose out.
I just can't get over some smug paper columnist sneering at Ole, and saying Jose had turned totty into "genuine title contenders" and done it in half the time Ole had been in the job.After watching them I can't see how anyone could think 4th should he realistic for them with some of the teams ahead. Arsenal coming close to them too. Chelsea squad and manager looks light years away from Jose and spurs at the moment too. Can't see how they turn it around looks like he lost the players to an extent no even parking the bus decent any more.
Funny looking back at Liverpool spurs game was billed as some sort of huge title game, both have snowballed in league since it
Utter utter nobber.
Just need a Sevilla defeat esque Mourinho piece where he says finishing mid table is Tottenham's usual position if you look at the last 30 years.
Spurs can't defend and rely on individual brilliance to score. Which team does it remind us of?
I can't see him in the Bundesliga either. Bayern surely will never touch him, and i can't imagine any other club being able or willing to afford him.
Surely he can't go from Spurs to Arsenal though? Even if Wenger's way out was not on the best terms, they surely couldn't bring in his eternal arch nemesis?
Sorry, who are you?
What a stupid question.
Top of the table.
It's Buster from Bristol!
Looking at your profile, I see you have a track record of being a bit of a busy body.
I dont think Nagelsmann would take it yet, he'd wait for a better opportunity in the summer i suspect. He is on thin ice though, Jose
It is possible, but I think he'd have to lower his financial demands by a lot and I can't see that happening.
I can see the logic being that he's been out of management rather than joining directly from Spurs. Could see Arsenal's owners getting desperate if they don't manage to qualify for Europe this season and next season. Would be the perfect end to his club management career after everything he's said about Wenger and Arsenal.
He won’t get sacked, can’t see Levy paying him £15m to go. Wouldn’t be surprised to see Kane go though, for circa £150m to make up for lost revenue due to stadium costs, no fans, no NFL and no Champions League. This will feed into the Mourinho narrative of his hands being tied and backs to wall with “this squad”.
Naglesmann would be a better option
While they can't afford to sack him, at some point Kane might decide he doesn't want to be part of this shite , at which point they will be truly fecked.
I think Jose is on a scam to make a fortune in contract payoffs
That is the nicest thing anyone has said. Thank you my friend.
Spurs relative to most BuLi teams except maybe Bayern are quite rich. Unless Mou is willing to work on a third of the wages, I just don't see a market for him. Honestly, he could have stayed unemployed a bit longer, and then maybe tried PSG instead of joining Spurs.
Apart from Lyon/Marseille (at a stretch), I just don't think there will be a lot of teams in Europe willing to take him on, unless ofcourse Newcastle get sold to a Saudi royal
Can't see him retiring there. Think he stayed on because it's Mourinho and he wanted to see if there was a genuine shot at trophies, next manager will be another rebuilder so he'll go
It would be interesting to see (approx) how much he has made from contract payoffs. Chelsea twice, United and Madrid (I think, or maybe he walked). And now if he gets a payoff from Spurs.
Not like he's going to say
"Yeah, I'm a bit sh!te these days, just happy to live in London and milk the cash tree as long as possible".
Or even better "Lads, it's Tottenham".
On borrowed time surely. Finished as a manager.
I feel like he can say the latter, actually, it would be his Spurs “legacy” moment
Nah. For Chelsea, apart from players, he also changed the formation (the famous 4-3-3 with Makelele/Essien/Lampard). They continued winning things after he left (needed 2 seasons and 4 manager changes, and a change of system ), but he started it.
I don't think Inter were particularly lucky in their CL run. Smooth run to the SFs including a comfortable away win vs a very good, title-winning Chelsea.
The most luck they had was in the first leg of the Barca semi - I think one of the goals was offside and Barca should have had a penalty at the end. But the refereeing wasn't all one way, and Inter created a *lot* of chances that night, which is forgotten because of the rest of the tie. It wasn't 3 shots = 3 goals, Sneijder, Maicon, Eto'o, and Milito were doing lots of damage. In the away leg I don't think they needed luck. The red card was BS, and Barca didn't create a single chance in the box until the 80th minute goal. A tight offside call after that (I think it was the right one), and that was it. 90 minutes away to Pep's Barca, 70 of those with 10 men, 1 big chance conceded, 1-0 loss, 3-2 aggregate. Unreal. Not like the Chelsea 2012 semi with a missed penalty and multiple missed chances for Barca, and 2 shots = 2 goals for Chelsea.
Final was another dominant display vs Bayern, no luck involved.
Has to win his next three league games which are winnable (and he will surely be given the chance to do so). Don't think the players have turned against him...yet.
I would if he finished tenth, lost the league cup final but won the EL if Spurs would stick with him? It's pretty much his only hope of getting CL football next year.
I would if he finished tenth, lost the league cup final but won the EL if Spurs would stick with him? It's pretty much his only hope of getting CL football next year.
Porto were attracting the best young talent on the planet in those times. They were the Borussia Dortmund of those times. Even Villas-Boas won a league title and Uefa Cup there.
In 2004 they had world class players like Deco and Ricardo Carvalho and in 2011 when they won the UEFA they had James Rodriguez, Joao Moutinho, Falcao, Hulk etc
Jose did great things and had an amazing period of success, but like Zidane at Madrid, a lot of his achievements had more to do with the players he had at his disposal than actually being the greatest genius of all time like he believes in his own head that he is.
I think his stint at Spurs is a good barometer of his true level. I don't think he's washed up or a lesser manager now than he's ever been, it's just that a midfield pairing of Hojbjerg and Ndombele will not bring you the same level of success as a midfield of Essien, Lampard, Ballack and Claude Makalele will no matter how good a manager you are. My opinion is that Pochettino is a superior manager to Jose based on getting far more out of the same bunch of players than Jose did, regardless of how many trophies Jose has won when in charge of the teams containing the world's best players.
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Is that the best young talent in the world though? Two world class players. Winning the Champions League with that Porto was a great achievement and he was clearly a very good manager. Him struggling now is more a struggle to adapt and also struggling to find a way of winning more with less.
Robben was signed in Jan/Feb not long after the United board low-balled PSV. Believe the agreement was Robben would remain at PSV until June.
What I don't know is if Ranieri would have pulled the Porto players that followed Jose. If he goes elsewhere perhaps Carvalho, Ferreira, et al end up elsewhere. Thing is, Roman was throwing many more thousands per week at the players during that era and believe they were also making transfer payment in full up front, or a significant portion of, which may have still pulled players. Nonetheless, I've no doubts they'd have risen to top of the league with Ranieri, probably back-to-back, and still have failed in Europe.
Keep hearing he's a winner.
Not even sure what that means anymore.
Not even sure what that means anymore.
Levy looks like a tool now.
All the talk...“we want to win things... and he is a proven manager... one of the two best managers in the world.., bla bla“...
All the talk...“we want to win things... and he is a proven manager... one of the two best managers in the world.., bla bla“...
Any manager winning CL with Dortmund would be seen as a genius and Porto were not Dortmund of those times. They are just like other top Portuguese clubs who sign lot of young players and some of them will become awesome players.
Any manager's achievements are tied to the players they have in the squad, it's nothing specific to Jose or Zidane.
Spurs is his true level currently but not his best level or peak level.
I really can't imagine that this is what happened.
Mourinho is obviously washed up but I don’t get the revisionism. His record from 2003 (Porto UEFA Cup win) to 2010 (Inter treble) was outstanding. His record from 2010 to his third title win with Chelsea in 2015 was still very good. How many managers not named Alex Ferguson are top of the pile for more than 12-15 years? Guardiola might be an exception but then Pep advocates can’t really dismiss Mourinho’s achievements on the grounds of Chelsea’s big spending.
Well you could argue that the year the won it, most of the big teams in Europe were in transition. So in some ways it was like Leicester winning the league when all the big teams had horseshite managers - Van Gaal at Utd, Pellegrini at City, Brendan Rodgers started the season at Liverpool and had had a horror summer transfer window, Jose in his 2nd stint at Chelsea and losing the dressing room in one of the first games of the season for childishly and disgracefully verbally abusing a top female doctor in front of the whole stadium.
Porto's road to the Champions League title in 2004 was Lyon in the quarters, Deportivo in the semi's and Monaco in the final - about as handy a run that a team could ever dream of. And who could ever forget the cock-up of all cock-ups from the inexperienced Tim Howard in the last minute of the game against Porto, in the first round knock out stage, to giftwrap a victory for Jose? Would Schmeichel or Van de Saar have made such an error? No chance.
I don't think Jose's Porto team were any better than the Monaco team of Mbappe of 2016 who got to the final, or the Ajax team of 2018 with De Jong and De Ligt that got to the CL Semi's, but when you study the teams they faced and the luck along the way, one could argue that Porto's luck that year was on a par with Leicester in 2015/2016. It was a brilliant achievement from Jose, but he's been overrated ever since, in the same way Van Gaal's ability as a manager were greatly overrated from winning the CL with an Ajaz team boasting the greatest collection of wonder kids the game has probably ever seen. Ranieiri's talent as a manager also being vastly overrated for a short period of time after Leicester win.
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