Glad he is not our manager anymore, as evidence suggests, it was going downhill on both sides. But I'm glad he is doing well at Spurs, love him as a personality. There does seem to be alot of people that are out for him when it's clear, regardless what you think or your opinion, he is a serial winner who has won everywhere he has been. For my dislike of his period with us, he is still our most successful manager since Sir Alex and deserves some respect for that alone.
Jose Mourinho | Spurs manager
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran hold a long overdue conversation about United's awful league form with 1 win in 7. They discuss a disappointing draw at Bournemouth, a not so disappointing draw against Liverpool and a crushing defeat at Chelsea - Is time nearly over for Erik Ten Hag?
Then in a special second half of the pod, Nik welcomes Natalie ( https://twitter.com/natalie_17) to discuss the fortunes of Manchester United Women as they booked a place in the FA Cup Final after a historic first ever win vs. Chelsea.
I honestly can't be bothered.
But the idea that Henderson is better than Lloris is just delusional.
His constant ‘woe is us/everyone has it better than us/my job is so hard’ shtick is incredibly tiresome these days.
So, Pogba and VDB are now in your revised 2nd XI, with Bruno in the CAM role in your first XI.
So is it Fred that's now playing alongside Matic in CM in the first XI? If so, Matic + Fred falls far short of Sissoko + Hojbjerg.
Or are you just switching players around to make your 2nd XI look better?
PS. The notion that Lo Celso would not even be in your 2nd XI is as delusional as your suggestion that Henderson is better than Lloris.
Henderson was one of the top keepers in all of English football over the last 2 seasons, attracting interest from Chelsea and seen as Neurs potential replacement at Bayern until he signed his contract while Lloris is injury prone and aging.
Would he even get in front of Kasper?
I just find it strange how you are talking up your reserves yet Jose subbed 4 of them off at halftime and publically called them shit.
Yes, is it hard to understand I missed a player out? its not really revised when I added one player. Matic or VDB either or are still better than any of your second choice in that position.
Again, Lo Celso playing in the CAM does not get in our second XI.
Even if Henderson isn't better, he surely would give Lloris a good run for his money, Lloris may knick it on experience but there is always a mistake around the corner from him.
Agreed, Mourinho also.
I see - so why is he just a bench warmer?
Meanwhile, poor old Lloris is only the captain of the World Cup winning team ... and so far part of the best defence in the Prem. How could he ever hope to compete against Henderson?
Ha! on that basis Pogba gets into your first team because he is a world cup final scorer.
If Utd have a much stronger squad than Spurs as some would suggest then I guess that means Jose must be doing a great job then.
Oh no - don't be using logic like that in here. You will get slaughtered!
I dont know why you bother mate.
I'm glad you aren't a scout for Spurs
Completely agree about Pogba and Mourinho.
I also do firmly believe Levy will give Mourinho the attention he needs to keep his head level. I felt like he isolated himself when things get tough and if upper management sees him as an asset the game has to get a little revolutionary when it comes to design with managers in general.
Telles sure as shit wouldn't start over Reguilon.
Because he loves the attention.
which of Henderson, Telles and Pogba don't you rate out of interest?I'm glad you aren't a scout for Spurs
Based on what I've seen a combined Utd/Spurs XI would see Kane, Son and Reguilon as the shoo-ins on the Spurs side, Bruno on our side and then obviously one of Rashford/Greenwood/Martial to complete the front 3
Very little between the 2/3 GK's, the 4 CB's, RB's are between one who can't attack vs one who can't defend, CM's if you assume Fred and McTominay are our first choice two very little between them and Sissoko and Højbjerg
2 very evenly matched teams imo
Very little between the 2/3 GK's, the 4 CB's, RB's are between one who can't attack vs one who can't defend, CM's if you assume Fred and McTominay are our first choice two very little between them and Sissoko and Højbjerg
2 very evenly matched teams imo
Henderson is quality would start fro us, Telles untested in the PL I am happy with Reguilon..... Pogba is world class when Pogba wants to be world class
, other than that he's more trouble than he's worth, either that or he's thick.Only Greenwood has shown he can play right, and I would take McTominay in our squad for sure. De Gea is better than Lloris. Only players that I would want in our first team are Bruno and De Gea.
Yet Pogba has won more at United than Spurs have won in the last decade whilst featuring heavily. WeirdHenderson is quality would start fro us, Telles untested in the PL I am happy with Reguilon..... Pogba is world class when Pogba wants to be world class
unfortunately Pogba has never been world class, and never will be. If he can get his shit together he can be a very good midfielder, but whether he does is questionable.Henderson is quality would start fro us, Telles untested in the PL I am happy with Reguilon..... Pogba is world class when Pogba wants to be world class
you are right, we can’t judge Telles yet. I’m yet to form an opinion, looks good going forward, defensively he’s not been tested yet. Shaw was in great form after he arrived, so he’s not a nailed on starter - very good competition for us.
as someone else said, two reasonably evenly matched sides. Spurs have been in excellent form, United have been poor. If United out a good run together, I’m sure some of the opinions here will be reevaluated.
How is it weird? Going by your criteria the whole United first team is better than ours. Oh and was it Jose that won most of that silverware?
You know how it ends though, right?
Only commented on your evaluation of our players. Said nothing about Jose as a coach did I? Just seemed weird that you said he’s more trouble than he’s worth. Surely you would be happy with a couple of trophiesHow is it weird? Going by your criteria the whole United first team is better than ours. Oh and was it Jose that won most of that silverware?
I think United have a good squad, never denied it. I rate Martial, Rashford, Greenwood, VdB, Bruno, McT, Shaw, Telles, De Gea even Maguire when he's on form with a good paring.
So we can only get trophies with Pogba? I do not get your point, I was passing comment on the United players, how has that got anything to do with what Spurs have won?
Just seemed like you were mocking United players that have had some good achievements at United and I didn’t get why
How was I mocking Pogba?
Mocking
making fun of someone or something in a cruel way; derisive.
Either more trouble than he’s worth, or thick? Sounded like mocking to me. Apologies if I misunderstood
Its not that i don't rate them, its just that i don't think they would play ahead of Lloris, Reguilon or N'dombele
You pick that up after I say he has the ability to be word class, tell me are you happy with his performances for United this season? Are you always happy with the comments from him or his agent?
I mean you’re a Spurs fan making fun of our players on a United forum. Couldn’t help having a dig back.
He repeated himself with the "little pony" schtick, but this is the season he generally wins something.
Yeah, I still don't see how I was making fun of him, but whatever.
Mourinho may not but the France manager would definitely start Pogba ahead of him. As most probably would.
I actually wouldn’t mind Spurs winning the league - better than City or Liverpool. Also, I’m sure the ban hammer would be out to avoid any gloating. Win win.
So we are shifting to National team form now?
fecking hell.No. God you’re a sensitive bunch. It’s a hypothetical conversation about who has a better first choice/second 11. It’s fair to say most neutrals and managers would pick Pogba ahead of Ndombele, as evidenced by the fact that the only person who has that option picks Pogba.So we are shifting to National team form now?
We're sensitive? Seriously? I'm talking about PL form and overall play in the PL this season. From what I was seeing this season on this very forum, most members wanted VdB over Pogba?