[Red_Aaron]

Why are 95% of his passes underhit? (and the other 5% overhit)

He's so off the pace, he just rolls the ball around, there's no zip at all in anything he does. The ball gets into him and the move just peeters out.

Looks frightened to death

 

[Its all gone Shane Long]

Will look great in a 4-4-5 formation.

Will look great in a taxi to the airport…outer crap

 

[ValenciasDrilledCrosses]

I always try to give players a full season but fecking hell, it's hard to not be completely hopeless about this signing. His confidence looks absolutely shot on the ball and he doesn't play with enough intensity to make up for it off the ball. Feel for the guy and really hope Amorim figures something out for him but I just can't see it. Even though he was missing he was getting into some great positions the first few games and now that's gone as well. Wonder if he'd be playing any different had one of those chances against Liverpool or Saints gone in.

Liked the transfer in the summer because a completely different profile to Hojlund was nice in theory. Plus it was nice of us to take advantage of a release clause below market value for once. But he doesn't even look like a 20 million player right now.

 

[dannyrhinos89]

Easily One of the worst players in the Premier league.

Needs binning off ASAP before we get stuck with him.

 

[santeria13]

Measuring a player ability in football based just on goals isn't "that good" an analysis.

This is true. From an eye test, he actually also looks utter shite.

 

[Moriarty]

Not a United player. Doesn't use his height and strength to rough up defenders or protect other forwards. Seemed lost against Ipswich. So far he's shown nothing that would justify his fee or his place in the squad.

 

[simplyared]

Our new manager bringing him on today shows he's prepared to give the lad a chance to show us there could be a player in there. I'll be surprised if we'll be seeing him again!

 

[Godfather]

Measuring a player ability in football based just on goals isn't "that good" an analysis.

Funny as his debut goal was about the only good thing the lad has done for us so far. He is just proper wank. Makes Antony look like a good purchase.

 

[DJ_21]

Such a useless player. Get rid. Sign Gyökeres

 

[Escobar]

Does not have the brains either

 

[Wrecking ralf]

No but if he did that's not really helpful

About 5 seconds, bottom left

 

[The Purley King]

Reminds me of me when I last played about 15 years ago and thought I could still hack it.
Slow, cumbersome and light years off the pace.
The lad is early twenties and if this is what he is like now there is little hope

 

[NotoriousISSY]

Who signed this one off. Apart from his debut goal and the occasional bit of silky play, he’s absolutely dirt.

 

[DarkXaero]

Safe to say that this one hasn't worked out. There's just nothing encouraging here, and I admit that I was impressed early on with some of his link up but even that is so inconsistent.

We need to loan him to a league that suits him next summer, recover some value and sell him.

 

[Andycoleno9]

He doesn’t even deserve the time. Bin him off in the summer. We have to honest with ourselves here.

DIfference how people here treat him and Hojlund is staggering. Despite he is here only 3 months and showed way more talent than Hojlund, people already calling him "worse than Antony". Meanwhile, "Hojlund will become good".

Zirkzee has talent. Only problem is his position. Is he no10 or no9 is yet to be seen.

 

[VP89]

This is true. From an eye test, he actually also looks utter shite.

Funny as his debut goal was about the only good thing the lad has done for us so far. He is just proper wank. Makes Antony look like a good purchase.

I mean he might well continue to be shite. I'm not really defending his performances so far, I just won't rule him out so early.

There are things that I think he can bring to an Amorim system, with his physique and willingness to play one touch football. He's a better finisher than what he's shown for us so far, but needs to show more urgency and proactiveness. These are things which can be coached. He's not technically a bad player in my books.

 

[Fooza]

DIfference how people here treat him and Hojlund is staggering. Despite he is here only 3 months and showed way more talent than Hojlund, people already calling him "worst than Antony". Meanwhile, "Hojlund will becomd good".

Zirkzee has talent. Only problem is his position. Is he no10 or no9 is yet to be seen.

That's what annoys me, how do we sign a player and don't know what his best position?

By the way, do ever sign bigger frame players in attack and it working out? Lukaku comes to mind but he was far better

 

[RedRocket9908]

DIfference how people here treat him and Hojlund is staggering. Despite he is here only 3 months and showed way more talent than Hojlund, people already calling him "worst than Antony". Meanwhile, "Hojlund will becomd good".

Zirkzee has talent. Only problem is his position. Is he no10 or no9 is yet to be seen.

I think he is a number 10 and has something to offer as a rotation option for one of the 2 slots behind the striker in Ruben's setup, he gets in good positions and gives the defenders problems but doesnt have the finishing ability to be an out and out striker

 

[Godfather]

DIfference how people here treat him and Hojlund is staggering. Despite he is here only 3 months and showed way more talent than Hojlund, people already calling him "worst than Antony". Meanwhile, "Hojlund will becomd good".

Zirkzee has talent. Only problem is his position. Is he no10 or no9 is yet to be seen.

With Hojlund you always saw the athleticism he has and his will to put the shift in. Zirkzee shows nothing of that. A neat touch won't be enough to make it here

 

[RuudTom83]

So far this is looking an odd signing from INEOS.

 

[Wing Attack Plan R]

Even as a 10 he is never going to work out for us. As a striker he’s pure comedy gold. Think of any of the good players in those roles over the years, and Zirkzee isn’t fit to clean their boots. This isn’t a case of giving a player time to spin up in a new league, he’s just not good enough, full stop.

 

[El Jefe]

DIfference how people here treat him and Hojlund is staggering. Despite he is here only 3 months and showed way more talent than Hojlund, people already calling him "worse than Antony". Meanwhile, "Hojlund will become good".

Zirkzee has talent. Only problem is his position. Is he no10 or no9 is yet to be seen.

Check my post history, I don’t rate either of them. That said the reason Hojlund probably has a lot more trust is he showed what he was capable of during his purple patch last year.

Zirkzee just reminds me of Sancho and Depay. Bad fits for the team and the league so let’s just get rid now.

 

[Wing Attack Plan R]

I’m a left-sided midfielder, but I was asked to play striker one game. I couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn, I was constantly in the wrong place to receive the ball, and proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that I’m never going to be a striker. I had 6 shots and only 1 was on target. Zirkzee looks similar.

 

[McLvnsMuse]

We keep signing “10’s” (Mount, Zirkzee) in a team built around an ever present traditional number 10 (Bruno)

This signing (like the Mount one) makes little sense for a team with higher priorities.

Fortunately he was cheap. Sell him to an Italian club in the Jan window before we tank his value completely.

 

[Scanny]

A comment I read on another forum says he looks like a YouTuber on Soccer Aid.
Accurate.

 

[Djemba-Djemba]

He may be even worse than Weghorst.

Which I didn't think was possible.

 

[Reditus]

ZZ Flop

 

[Oscar Bonavena]

Why are 95% of his passes underhit? (and the other 5% overhit)

He's so off the pace, he just rolls the ball around, there's no zip at all in anything he does. The ball gets into him and the move just peeters out.

Looks frightened to death

He's underhitting his passes because his confidence is shot. Players do that when they have zero confidence, they take extra care to make sure their pass reaches their target but instead it has the opposite effect and they end up scuffing it.

A confident player zips those passes at speed.

 

[Red00012]

Did anyone notice Bruno sarcastically clap Zirkzee after he blazed that shot over. Class haha

That’s not a sarcastic clap. Stop making a story out of nothing . He’s Basically encouraging Zirkcee for taking on the shot.

 

[Borussia Teeth]

ZZ Flop

Bravo

 

[dogwithabone]

He doesn’t even look like a footballer. Everything is so awkward, so half hearted. Utter rubbish.

 

[Dave Smith]

Anyone doing an eye test with him is giving him an F. Maybe a new manager can get him going but his quality on the ball and physicality are highly concerning imo.

I always say give players a year, but with him it is hard to see why you would do.

 

[gaffs]

He was half the price of Antony, but he may be twice as bad.

He is just far too slow for the Prem. Cant see a world where he becomes the number 9 in an Amorim team.

 

[Eddy_JukeZ]

He might still turn it around, but this is looking like an awful purchase.

 

[daba]

Real shame, I liked the signing on paper but seems completely lost and out of his depth after a semi-promising first 2 or 3 games.

He has until Jan but if he can’t step up I hope we are ruthless. In such a case, we need to pray Thiago Motta sees Zirkzee as a missing piece at Juve and wants a reunion with him in January. Jan might seem harsh but the longer he stays here the more he’ll drive down his value like Antony did. Give Juve what ever payment structure they want, luckily he’s on less than 100k a week so he is shiftable unlike most of our previous signings.

 

[Who's Kissing Cameras?]

Did anyone notice Bruno sarcastically clap Zirkzee after he blazed that shot over. Class haha

Don’t think that was fecking sarcastic mate. He was encouraging him. Good leadership.

 

[ScholesBrain]

What does he offer?
no speed
poor finishing
poor technique with poor touches and passes
poor mentality. another lazy player like rashford

 

[amolbhatia50k]

What does he offer?
no speed
poor finishing
poor technique with poor touches and passes
poor mentality. another lazy player like rashford

If you see the away 1-1 at Palace (I think), he was excellent in the first half and that’s what I thought would get most of the time. His touch was excellent as was his ability to move in control of the ball in tight spaces and link up / chance creation.

Sadly we haven’t seen him play like that since and what’s alarming is his:
- Complete lack of confidence and readiness for the pressure. As many have said, he looks scared of the occasion.
- He doesn’t seem to have an engine. Maybe it’s to do with confidence only but I want to see him leave everything on the pitch. There’s no for players who amble.

 

[Freak]

Why does he look so big and immobile? Even his shooting technique is completely off.

 

[Borys]

DIfference how people here treat him and Hojlund is staggering. Despite he is here only 3 months and showed way more talent than Hojlund, people already calling him "worse than Antony". Meanwhile, "Hojlund will become good".

Zirkzee has talent. Only problem is his position. Is he no10 or no9 is yet to be seen.

That's what I was thinking as well reading this thread. Hojlund is a level or two below Zirkzee in terms of technique and balance. He is much faster over a distance - how is that working out for us? In terms of positioning in the box, I don't see much of a difference between the two. Earlier this season Zirkzee was getting chances, but missing them. Is Hojlund getting chances?

There's a player in Zirkzee, personally I don't like slow players in attacking roles, it creates a problem that we already are struggling with in context of our squad. I do worry more about Hojlund out of those 2.