Considering how the Serie A operates then expect a loan with a low option to buy clause inserted in his contract and us paying most of his salary. If rumors of our interest for Ederson is true then I hope we'll be creative and at least try to put Zirkzee in the deal.
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- Assists
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Thinking exactly the same thing and you beat me to it
Another worthless performance. Hopefully that’s the last game I see him playing for us, he’s just so lethargic. Rather stick one of the wingers up there than see him dawdling about.
There is a player in there, but it's a shame. We won't see it for United. Don't know whether it's match fitness, he doesn't fit (the team or the league), or he's checked out (which would be pretty shit if that's the case), mental... but he looked off it yesterday, and it happens too much.
Can they please share a cab?
I do not think that Zirkzee is suited to the Premier League.
Premier Inn, perhaps "checking in sir..?"
Premier Inn, perhaps "checking in sir..?"
He's a good finisher and has a nice touch. But he's way too slow and passive for the PL.
He needs to be sold ASAP.
He needs to be sold ASAP.
A good finisher? Come on. There's not much good about him at all. He's a Baller type footballer. He'd have just about enough space in that league to look slightly less than not bothered.
I'm not even sure Zirkzee himself would say he's a good finisher.
When somehow he got a chance, he can score. Problem is he rarely in the position to do so
Wasn't there a quote going around when he first came saying along the lines of "I'm a 9.5 don't expect me to score?" Can't seem to actually find it so it's probably been quoted and twisted to fit a narrative but it does fit for him. Problem is he doesn't offer much else either.
Wouldn't be as bad if he was like a Morata where he'd normally do the rest of the stuff to a high level but would just crumble in front of goal but Zirkzee just offers nothing.
No.
His biggest issue, for me, is that he's neither a number nine nor a number ten. He's an in-between player you need to pair with someone up front in a less intense league to get the best out of him.
His biggest issue for me is his complete lack of intensity. It always looks like my broadband is lagging when he's on screen. He offers so little over 90 mins either off or on the ball.
He's got to be gone by August. We are looking at massively upgrading our quality and depth during the summer and he couldn't even get minutes in this seasons squad.
I'm going to be gutted if Lacey doesn't get a run out in the last two games because Zirkzee gets those minutes.
£25mil - Someone like Ajax or that kind of level can afford that and he would probably thrive and get another move after a year or so there.
You have to wonder who santioned this transfer! He didn't suddenly lose pace & become nonchalant... With us, it's very much a case of 3 steps forward & 1 back when it comes down to transfers.
Quite a few top level Italian clubs enquired about him last summer so I am optimistic that we will be able to move him back to Serie A. His reputation from his time there is pretty good and we don't need an especially big fee to make it worth our while as he was quite cheap in the first place. Zirkzee should be the easiest of the deadwood to get rid of.
Biggest issue is he’s crap.
This he’s not a not a 9 and not a 10 nonsense (not just from you) just means he’s not good enough to be either.
You are no good, if you cant even define a position on the pitch.
I'm adamant he belongs to Harlem Globetrotters or charity games.
On a serious note, with how poor football level has been over the last years I think he could do well in a slow league where aggression is not something teams bother with.
On a serious note, with how poor football level has been over the last years I think he could do well in a slow league where aggression is not something teams bother with.
Because he's a link up player and not a hold up player or a finisher on the shoulder. His best stuff in Italy came from behind the striker. He's currently basically an unfit hybrid of an 8/10. He's clearly a very good player technically when he gets on he nearly always has moments that shine through where he has no right to keep the ball or make a flick or the pass he does but he's not going to get to improve or play to his strengths in this team and it's true he doesn't really look very well suited to the league either. If you want to preserve any value in him whatsoever he's got to go this summer
He’s a crappier version of Wirtz.
If Maguire had played upfront at 9 with the same amount of minutes as Zirkzee, I’d wager he’d be on more than 2 goals.
Some hypotheticals are a waste of time but this is almost certainly true
1/3 of the price, 1/3 of the g/a
Seriously though we'd be in trouble if he was our main striker. He may actually get through it and become a much better player, it might all click for him at some point if he got those games but I just don't see any situation where that's actually going to happen. He's currently better to bring on when you're defending a lead as opposed to chasing a lead which is pretty pointless really!
Haha nailed it
Said it from the very first day we signed him, he is a futsal type player, with nowhere near the engine or drive to play in this league. He looks in terrible shape, and is way too laid back and lazy to ever make it as a player in a top team
Hes a crap finisher, 90% of the time he gets nothing behind it
Palace away goal was better finish than probably most of our goals this season
1 goal doesn't make him a finisher. Look at all the shots that he gets nothing on and troubles no one. A good finisher gets goals from them on a regular basis. Plenty of crap players have hit a good finish, doesnt make them good finishers
His touch and dribbling can be so good, but he just lacks any intensity or athleticism. Watching some highlights of him and he looks like quite an exciting player in terms of his bravado and dribbling. If he had great acceleration and speed he would be great fun.
He's not a striker so shouldn't be judged as one, for me he's a ten but a pretty average ten at that.
I think he'd struggle to 10 goal involvements a season even with constant game time.
I think he'd struggle to 10 goal involvements a season even with constant game time.
THIS.
Maguire makes mistakes and gets done for pace etc, but he regularly gives 100%. Stick him up front and he’ll do everything to get on the end of balls and crosses. He puts his head in (almost like Steve Bruce back in the day) and makes a nuisance of himself. Zirkzee does none of those things.
This has always bothered me about Joshua. In the event we can't sell him I would like to see him commit to a month of conditioning work this summer while everyone else is off to World Cup duty. With more athleticism he could be a decent second striker. Yes I know, standards have dropped as he's nowhere near the second striker we had a generation ago, but with all the higher priorities that must be addressed I don't see how we afford another second striker worth the trouble.
Lethergic 9.5 tier at United:
Berbatov > Ibra > Zirkzee
Berbatov > Ibra > Zirkzee
Fixed that for you.
Never realised that there's a subsection of fans that love the aesthetically pleasing players. Till this day you go on X or some other platforms and they'll die on the hill that Zirkzee is are best attacker. Maybe I'm just missing something with him but I don't see the talent that some do. Sure he has it in his locker to do the odd fancy turn or nice skill but in the same breath he'll then fail a 5 yard pass multiple times in the same sequence.
Slower league will probably do him wonders but god knows what league that will be.
Slower league will probably do him wonders but god knows what league that will be.
I think he was bought as a 30million squad option, thinking hed possibly be worth 50 million in a few years, given how low the bar is to be worth 30 million, however as its united, we are probably likely to lose money on this signing
Sell him to the dippers then, maybe they feel that they need cover for the six yard pass maestro
Yeah. I can have sympathy for him not getting enough first team minutes but if the excuse is he hasn't had enough game time to be able to step up when he's needed, then why should we keep him as a squad option?
This might sound ridiculous, but... I've always thought Zirkzees appearance is letting him down as well. He's pretty wimpy on the pitch, and lacks a certain demeanor. I'm not trying to be mean or anything, but i've always felt that he looks like a 12 year old girl with that hairdo. Go bald! Get a soul patch! Be meaner! Or something...
He seems to be a nice guy. But it hasn't worked out.